King Jela 20,016 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1) he hasn't had a chance 2) he isn't 'used' to one formation. Scored goals playing up front himself, in a 2 and behind 2 strikers in AM in a 3 man attack. Get your facts right, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,016 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 3 hours ago, KeyserSoze said: Ok once you’ve given him “time” we’ll chat. As for the gaffer he can go if we are looking like another empty season. Like I’ve said You're an utter mentalist fs 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 2 hours ago, KeyserSoze said: Look. all I’m saying is for a guy that’s came off the back of a season straight to us should impress a bit more I hope he’s the messiah though cos we’re going to need one You’ve not said anything wrong we’ve judged Balogun good early , ittens and roofes done nothing so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,287 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 When we signed Itten people were over the moon. (based on nothing) I, like most others had never seen him play and suggested that his YouTube highlight real was mediocre. The people who laughed at that comment are now questioning his talent. I'm still sitting on the fence because I haven't seen enough but early going suggests he won't be a replacement for Morelos should he leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkNS 6,298 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 2 hours ago, BlueKnight87 said: It's jumping the gun judging the guy now. Certainly would have preferred seeing him and Morelos up front for a bit. Could have sacrificed a holding midfielder to make it happen. Sad to say but the tarriers would have done that and got the goal, 92nd or what ever, right now gerrad or beale are not showing that one bit, couple these results will drive extreme pressure on gerrard early on..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,242 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, falkirkNS said: Sad to say but the tarriers would have done that and got the goal, 92nd or what ever, right now gerrad or beale are not showing that one bit, couple these results will drive extreme pressure on gerrard early on..... Unfortunately mate very true with the taigs. This stubborn refusal to switch approach is going to cost us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billythebear77 10,386 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 5 hours ago, KeyserSoze said: Early days I know but I’ve a gut feeling he’s not good enough. Has usually played in a 4-4-2 and since that’s not our game he’s going to struggle. willing to give it time of course, but he’s not filling me with hope. Fuxxake man, he’s played twice for 20 mins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykhaylychenko 1 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 24 minutes ago, bluenoz said: When we signed Itten people were over the moon. (based on nothing) I, like most others had never seen him play and suggested that his YouTube highlight real was mediocre. The people who laughed at that comment are now questioning his talent. I'm still sitting on the fence because I haven't seen enough but early going suggests he won't be a replacement for Morelos should he leave. Agree with this. Doesn’t look like a natural finisher, based on that vid. Let’s give him a few starts before we bury him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 11 hours ago, 35 Yard Dangerman said: Nice one Place is a laugh init Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,842 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 10 hours ago, bluenoz said: When we signed Itten people were over the moon. (based on nothing) I, like most others had never seen him play and suggested that his YouTube highlight real was mediocre. The people who laughed at that comment are now questioning his talent. I'm still sitting on the fence because I haven't seen enough but early going suggests he won't be a replacement for Morelos should he leave. One of Morelos first appearances was against Progres where he was useless. If we judged him as quickly as you’ve judged Itten, we’d never have had his European contributions. The lads played about 40 minutes of football FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven33jackie 1,882 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 It's early days but it doesn't look good. Yesterday game just passed him by, as did his appearance midweek. Although the game here must be alien to him especially yesterday's game which look like a defence v attack practice match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,592 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 12 hours ago, KeyserSoze said: Look. all I’m saying is for a guy that’s came off the back of a season straight to us should impress a bit more I hope he’s the messiah though cos we’re going to need one You bang on every week how great Morelos is when he's played shit and looked disinterested, Yet this player who has just joined the team and getting to know his teammates is written off already, madness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 81,465 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 OP showing himself up here as usual Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,433 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Bet if he started a game at home he would be really good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR1979 1,953 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 I think he will come good, he needs started as giving him 20 minutes here and there isn't going to get him settled, Stevie G could have changed it took Jack off and played Itten through the centre. Instead we played them same way which you could see Livingston coped with easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 13,591 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Itten and Roofe both look like players who need to both get match fitness up and get used to playing against teams like Livingston who park ten men behind the ball and don't give forward players any space or time on the ball. The pace of the game is something they need to get used to as well as you could see that they were a second or two behind play. I think they will both be decent players for us, but you can't judge either on a few 20 minute cameos. The elephant in the room is our midfield. Aribo missed a game and all creativity is gone. That, the lack of any urgency from the start of the game and the refusal to change tactics is where our downfall lies atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Socrates. 1,415 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 10 hours ago, BlueKnight87 said: Unfortunately mate very true with the taigs. This stubborn refusal to switch approach is going to cost us. Ye mean like against killie just the other week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 10,710 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 You know who is even worse, that guy we've no even signed yet. Christ, a young guy moves country, has came on to a game already finished and a game where the midfield did absolutely nothing. I think a big problem with our fanbase is some people are negative all the time and seem to want to be proven right. There are players to have a go at about yesterday, he isn't one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 The guy could be good but let’s face it with next to no creativity then Lewandowski would struggle for us at times, I don’t want to berate the manager but maybe after we realised Livingston wanted to do nothing but defend we should’ve swapped jack or kamara for Itten or Roofe and went with 2 attackers through the middle. A point is better than none but the players let themselves down with the over playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 13,591 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, loyalfollower said: The guy could be good but let’s face it with next to no creativity then Lewandowski would struggle for us at times, I don’t want to berate the manager but maybe after we realised Livingston wanted to do nothing but defend we should’ve swapped jack or kamara for Itten or Roofe and went with 2 attackers through the middle. A point is better than none but the players let themselves down with the over playing. It was obvious after 15/20 minutes that they were playing for a point. They were posing no threat at all and we should have changed shape and absolutely gone with extra numbers up top. The over playing is annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragglerock 519 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Woke up this morning thinking I need a laugh, saw this thread and read it and got the laugh I needed, judging a player after a couple of short spells on the pitch that's absolutely mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,287 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 hours ago, plymouthranger said: One of Morelos first appearances was against Progres where he was useless. If we judged him as quickly as you’ve judged Itten, we’d never have had his European contributions. The lads played about 40 minutes of football FFS. I haven't judged him yet. I said I'm still sitting on the fence which means I'm unsure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFamousPigeon 9,352 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, J-Maestro said: You know who is even worse, that guy we've no even signed yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camshy 812 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Its early days and sure he has failed to impress but one thing football shows you is things can change. Look at Borna, he was that poor qt the start I wanted Halliday in left back....now Borna is undoubtedly among our best and most important players. Once the lad starts a few games, along with Roofe I think we will all be in a better position to judge him a little better.....cant be a Swiss international and be shite, thry usually make the major tournaments so have a better pedigree of player than we have in Scotland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausagetrunks 5,987 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 We’re playing teams that are playing ultra defensive and when I say ultra defensive, 5 players around one player in their box ffs there was 8-9 players in their 6 yard box ffs. Livis aim was not to lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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