HG5 8,218 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Europe’s a free hit, so no real pressure, apart from the obvious of not getting knocked out by somebody totally diddy. When loads of people regard it as success when you reach the last 16, then there’s no real jeopardy for failing &, well, nobody expected us to win it, anyway, so last 16 is fine, yes? Compared to when the players are actually expected to DO something & win things. That’s when the lead boots come on. BridgeIsBlue, Malkytfp1 and 2nd Flute like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laudrupsleftfoot 3,366 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: If you just read it..... To say the ONLY reason we do better in Europe than domestically is down to refereeing is naive. I said main to be fair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malkytfp1 5,353 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, Laudrupsleftfoot said: I said main to be fair. I don't even think it's the main reason to be fair mate. And the "Gerrard out crew" patter is cringe. I canny speak for anyone on here but I would bet my bottom dollar there isn't one person on here doesn't want him to succeed. HG5 and BridgeIsBlue like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fragglerock 518 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 It's pretty simple in Europe we play sides that play football, in the Scottish league it's not football its dirty tackling and dirty tactics to injure and hack and do anything to stop football, aided by the referees. Malkytfp1, Doddger, AGC123 and 1 other like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TMB 14,166 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 It’s a terrific result to beat a team that finished 5th in the Eredivisie 0-4 on their own pitch. Galatasaray are a very strong side but I have every confidence in our teams ability to beat them. We’ve been a real force in Europe Gerrard’s record in that front is brilliant. Malkytfp1 likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malkytfp1 5,353 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Fragglerock said: It's pretty simple in Europe we play sides that play football, in the Scottish league it's not football its dirty tackling and dirty tactics to injure and hack and do anything to stop football, aided by the referees. Apparently it's no that simple for some mate. Fragglerock likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Sinner 246 Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, orange&blue92 said: In Europe teams don’t sit back, we pump them, in Scotland they don’t. No rocket science about it. Definitely a mentality aspect about it as well not just tactical. It’s how assured/ composed we look compared to the slackness and sometimes panic stations domestically. Malkytfp1 likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HG5 8,218 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, TMB said: It’s a terrific result to beat a team that finished 5th in the Eredivisie 0-4 on their own pitch. Galatasaray are a very strong side but I have every confidence in our teams ability to beat them. We’ve been a real force in Europe Gerrard’s record in that front is brilliant. I’m still waiting for the open top bus parade for reaching the last 16. In the 2nd tier comp. ’Brilliant’ - catch a grip. I will agree it’s a great result tonight. BridgeIsBlue likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fergie_6 817 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Their manager called it, we aren’t a typical Scottish team, we are more suited to the better European leagues, we all know we aren’t top champs league teams level, but right now, we should fear no team in the Europa, be it 1 or 2 leg tie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laudrupsleftfoot 3,366 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: Apparently it's no that simple for some mate. So you're agreeing with him that it's 'dirty tackling and dirty tactics to injure and hack'? And what's the main difference that allows dirty tackling and dirty tactics to injure and hack? Wouldn't be the refereeing would it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laudrupsleftfoot 3,366 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: I don't even think it's the main reason to be fair mate. And the "Gerrard out crew" patter is cringe. I canny speak for anyone on here but I would bet my bottom dollar there isn't one person on here doesn't want him to succeed. Of course no-one is wanting us to lose the league. There's a difference between that and backing the manager though. Plenty have the knives sharpened in case they're needed on a game by game basis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doddger 62 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, Fragglerock said: It's pretty simple in Europe we play sides that play football, in the Scottish league it's not football its dirty tackling and dirty tactics to injure and hack and do anything to stop football, aided by the referees. Spot on. Some of the cloggers in our league would be better suited to egg chasing. Fragglerock likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gogzy 30,914 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: The main difference is the refereeing. Unquestionably. It's a combination of that, and our opponents are way less likely to throw ten men behind the ball.. Most of our opponents in Europe probably fancy themselves favourites against us. They come at us and pay the price. Malkytfp1 likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BridgeIsBlue 59,543 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, HG5 said: I’m still waiting for the open top bus parade for reaching the last 16. In the 2nd tier comp. ’Brilliant’ - catch a grip. HG5 likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malkytfp1 5,353 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: Of course no-one is wanting us to lose the league. There's a difference between that and backing the manager though. Plenty have the knives sharpened in case they're needed on a game by game basis. But those knives have been sharpening not game by game, but almost 3 years of the same failings. Of 0 trophies in 6 attempts. Of repeated mistakes and inability to adapt and change when things aren't working. This manager has been backed unanimously, financially and by the fans. Time is and has been running out. I have always said it is too late to change manager at this point in the season but have lost a lot of faith in him domestically. HG5 and BridgeIsBlue like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HG5 8,218 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, BridgeIsBlue said: 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gogzy 30,914 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Win 4-0 away in Europe against a good team and we are still fighting among ourselves Malkytfp1 and HG5 like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HG5 8,218 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Anyway, 4-0 away at any Dutch team must be better than a last minute winner against any Latvian mob, so well done for that👏👏👏 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Real Ranger 2,382 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Good to watch a game where the the opponents don’t look like the game plan is to boot fuck our players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laudrupsleftfoot 3,366 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, gogzy said: It's a combination of that, and our opponents are way less likely to throw ten men behind the ball.. Most of our opponents in Europe probably fancy themselves favourites against us. They come at us and pay the price. Yeah I agree that's of course a big factor as well. I'm struggling to remember the last time we went two games in a row and weren't talking about the referee/linesmen though. For me, that's the main difference in that European football (generally speaking, they don't get everything right) doesn't allow an Edwards challenge on Morelos, or whoever the Hibs cunt was who stamped on Kent's achilles (I could go on but I'll be listing close to 50 examples over the past one or two seasons). Getting those decisions right would change the outcome of games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,128 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, HG5 said: I’m still waiting for the open top bus parade for reaching the last 16. In the 2nd tier comp. ’Brilliant’ - catch a grip. I will agree it’s a great result tonight. True, but the money will be very welcome - particularly this season. Long may the run continue. HG5 likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HG5 8,218 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, gogzy said: Win 4-0 away in Europe against a good team and we are still fighting among ourselves Depends if your priorities are becoming a European mini-power or stopping your fiercest rivals setting a record that will blight your lifetime for years, or in some cases, forever. I’m in the latter camp &, while I get the money implications of Europe, it’s no use if it’s spent badly and if it means the team doesn’t have it in them to compete in their main event. Malkytfp1 likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HG5 8,218 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, Terry Hurlock Loyal said: True, but the money will be very welcome - particularly this season. Long may the run continue. Yes mate - posted further down that I appreciate that - as long as it’s spent wisely..... Terry Hurlock Loyal likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tannerall 25,799 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 40 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: 🤣🤣 Fucking outted. There is another username I had from 2016 which wasn't used. Might as well change my profile pic to my native Irish flag. Let's settle this with one question. Do you think we do better in Europe solely down to better referees? No, I never referred to it as the sole reason, that is your misguided and incorrect opinion again.but I do believe it contributes to two of the major reasons as below. 1) European refs are not as biased or corrupt. 2) European refs allow less of the physicality inherent in Scottish football, which is often focused on us, and lowers the standard of our game. I also believe other reasons would pale in to insignificance. What do you believe is the major reason? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malkytfp1 5,353 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 People forget some of the decisions in Europe have been as bad as the league. Young boys away - Morelos denied a pen Young boys home - Morelos denied a pen Feynoord at home - Morelos denied a pen Feynoord away - Morelos denied a pen Feynoord away - Ojo denied a pen Rapid Vienna home - offside goal Rapid Vienna away - Morelos penalty Spartak at home - Grezda penalty Spartak away - offside goal wrongly chopped. BridgeIsBlue likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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