magic8ball 27,901 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Redwhiteandblue said: So it's SPFL 1, 2, 3 &4 now? When did that happen? SPL was collapsing and merged with the SFL , scottyscott1963 and Sweetheart 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, plumbGER said: June 2013 Number of teams: 42 Divisions: Scottish Premiership; Scottish Championship; Scottish League One; Scottish League Two When did the SPFL start then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, magic8ball said: SPL was collapsing and merged with the SFL , Yeah, I mind that. But did the top 2 leagues not break away to form the SPFL? magic8ball 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Redwhiteandblue said: When did the SPFL start then? 2013 SPL and SFL merger. Redwhiteandblue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 David is a mad man Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,150 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Mark Guidi must be in a relationship with Lennon. His defence of him is just a wee bit too vociferous. plumbGER 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, left winger said: Mark Guidi must be in a relationship with Lennon. His defence of him is just a wee bit too vociferous. Or he's a Bear Doubt that though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,150 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, plumbGER said: Or he's a Bear Doubt that though. 😂 I’ll stick with my theory, for the time being, at least. plumbGER 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEarle 9,745 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, plumbGER said: David is a mad man Was he the raging maddy who said celtic fans 'need to support the club not tomorrow, not today, but now!' jersey-rangers, HG5 and plumbGER 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Redwhiteandblue said: Yeah, I mind that. But did the top 2 leagues not break away to form the SPFL? It’s all one league set up now , Think the confusion may come from Premiership and Championship names for top 2 leagues .Can’t remember exactly when they renamed the bottom 3 though . Redwhiteandblue and Sweetheart 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jersey-rangers 217 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 the treble is on us watp Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, SteveEarle said: Was he the raging maddy who said celtic fans 'need to support the club not tomorrow, not today, but now!' Aye He came away with a few belters and was complimentary about us. Telling all the celtic supports to F off cos he went to a game when it was windy and raining, poor soul. HG5 and SteveEarle 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley 1,401 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, magic8ball said: SPL was collapsing and merged with the SFL , Was it not when the penny dropped by putting us down to the bottom division that the SPL didn't own the TV rights to the SFL and hence our games. Hastily arranged merger where the bribe was to carve up the second place money and spread some crumbs about whilst safeguarding the Tim's guaranteed first place money. Cue all the hysteria when they realise their only getting a million or so for second place finish this year. Sweetheart, HG5, VentyFour and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley 1,401 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Redwhiteandblue said: Exactly. Guys a billionaire. No chance of celtic ever going into admin. Aye, but will he still bankroll them if the CSA claims go massively against them. Can forsee a situation where they put themselves into admin to avoid paying the claims and restarting with a "clean sheet". Just like the HMRC claim put us under the CSA could be their HMRC moment. Sweetheart and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearInTheToon 1,577 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 56 minutes ago, Brackley said: Aye, but will he still bankroll them if the CSA claims go massively against them. Can forsee a situation where they put themselves into admin to avoid paying the claims and restarting with a "clean sheet". Just like the HMRC claim put us under the CSA could be their HMRC moment. I think it’s wishful thinking that those claims will be large enough to sink them, I’m afraid. I can see their liabilities being very underwhelming. magic8ball and My Fathers Scarf 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Brackley said: Was it not when the penny dropped by putting us down to the bottom division that the SPL didn't own the TV rights to the SFL and hence our games. Hastily arranged merger where the bribe was to carve up the second place money and spread some crumbs about whilst safeguarding the Tim's guaranteed first place money. Cue all the hysteria when they realise their only getting a million or so for second place finish this year. That could well have tipped them over the edge ,The set up was completely different then ,SPL was a company in its own right and of course the loss of our games was a body blow . Now they have changed it altogether that the clubs are the league and effectively the SPFL board are just employed by the league .Gives them a form of protection any losses are felt by all the memeber clubs . Sweetheart 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, BearInTheToon said: I think it’s wishful thinking that those claims will be large enough to sink them, I’m afraid. I can see their liabilities being very underwhelming. Tend to agree ,at most your talking a liability that stops them signing 1 player .Us winning the league and qualifying for the champions league would be far more significant . As for the CSA case as always ,justice and closure for the victims is more important than either us or them winning the league . BearInTheToon, Brackley, Sweetheart and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Brackley said: Aye, but will he still bankroll them if the CSA claims go massively against them. Can forsee a situation where they put themselves into admin to avoid paying the claims and restarting with a "clean sheet". Just like the HMRC claim put us under the CSA could be their HMRC moment. Think you're hoping for the impossible mate. They cints are the establishment now plumbGER and magic8ball 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Redwhiteandblue said: Think you're hoping for the impossible mate. They cints are the establishment now Whilst we sat back the kafflicks got educated and maneuvered into positions of power and now call the shots. magic8ball and Redwhiteandblue 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Brackley said: Aye, but will he still bankroll them if the CSA claims go massively against them. Can forsee a situation where they put themselves into admin to avoid paying the claims and restarting with a "clean sheet". Just like the HMRC claim put us under the CSA could be their HMRC moment. I understand he's worth around 2 billion but can he bank roll *fc the money, as it is tied up in a family trust with his four children as listed as beneficiaries. magic8ball 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: I understand he's worth around 2 billion but can he bank roll *fc the money, as it is tied up in a family trust with his four children as listed as beneficiaries. Prettt sure Fritzel doesn’t want anymore financial investment in the taigs ,He’s pretty close to the level where he would need to formally offer a full takeover.Plus he has a nice number regarding dividends and contract options due to having nominal levels of soft loans . In other words investing further will cost him far more than what ever he puts in .He’s more of a businessman than a fan . Our board members get stick at times but they are more about success on the field than the wallet . Sweetheart 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, magic8ball said: Prettt sure Fritzel doesn’t want anymore financial investment in the taigs ,He’s pretty close to the level where he would need to formally offer a full takeover.Plus he has a nice number regarding dividends and contract options due to having nominal levels of soft loans . In other words investing further will cost him far more than what ever he puts in .He’s more of a businessman than a fan . Our board members get stick at times but they are more about success on the field than the wallet . Don't forget DK's children they invested knowing they could lose their inheritance. I can't see Desmond's kids doing that when they have recently given him permission for the funds to build his dream house. magic8ball 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I think Clyde are doubling down and protecting Lennon now, well done Clyde. I want him there if we go on to win it, manky wee tramp has had if all his own way at the beggars. magic8ball 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Sweetheart said: Don't forget DK children they invested knowing they could lose their inheritence inheritance. I can see Desmond's kids doing that when they have recently given him permission for the funds to build his dream house. DK investing his children’s inheritance could be a red herring.Nobody knows what he’s worth so the significance of his investment in regards to his wealth is unknown . I’m pretty certain that the majority of bears wouldn’t grudge the King estate walking away with a bit of profit from its investment in the club if we get 55 this season and have a club that’s self sufficient moving forward. The taigs had a similar outlook 20 odd years ago ,Difference being the bunnet made an 8 fold level of profit and left them with a stadium of limited lifespan .This little cherry is about to hit them in the arse soon . Sweetheart and plumbGER 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, magic8ball said: DK investing his children’s inheritance could be a red herring.Nobody knows what he’s worth so the significance of his investment in regards to his wealth is unknown . I’m pretty certain that the majority of bears wouldn’t grudge the King estate walking away with a bit of profit from its investment in the club if we get 55 this season and have a club that’s self sufficient moving forward. The taigs had a similar outlook 20 odd years ago ,Difference being the bunnet made an 8 fold level of profit and left them with a stadium of limited lifespan .This little cherry is about to hit them in the arse soon . This Anybody who gets us back on top deserves the world. magic8ball 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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