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It's not risk free, but, there's far less risk of transmission because it's outdoors, and we wouldn't have been sharing dressing rooms/hospitality etc with their players/staff, so hopefully we get lucky.

International football is more of a concern imo - we're sending our players into a dressing room with players from all over the world.

It's only a matter of time before we're affected by this, one way or another tbh. 

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24 minutes ago, frenv said:

If some of our players now do test positive, will this be the first confirmed case of mid-match transmission to opposition players?

 

Doubt it as standard liege players seemingly caught it off brugges players who tested positive after they played each other last Sunday 

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Just now, BlueMe said:

It's not risk free, but, there's far less risk of transmission because it's outdoors, and we wouldn't have been sharing dressing rooms/hospitality etc with their players/staff, so hopefully we get lucky.

International football is more of a concern imo - we're sending our players into a dressing room with players from all over the world.

It's only a matter of time before we're affected by this, one way or another tbh. 

International football is a running joke. Euro games aren’t too bad, it’s essentially 2 bubbles meeting just like the league albeit in a different country. 
 

International football is like 30/40/50 bubbles all coming together from around the world. Complete and utter madness. 

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1 hour ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Doubt it as standard liege players seemingly caught it off brugges players who tested positive after they played each other last Sunday 

Cheers. Makes a complete nonsense of permitting said game then given the potential implications on subsequent matches (domestic or otherwise) given the forfeit rules in place for certain countries.

Good thing we've hardly got any games in the next 14 days (as of tomorrow) before the next break that would be impacted:

Sunday 25th October - Scottish Premiership - Rangers Livingston
Thursday 29th October - Europa League - Rangers Lech Poznan
Sunday 1st November - Scottish Premiership - Kilmarnock Rangers
Thursday 5th November - Europa League - Benfica Rangers
Sunday 8th November - Scottish Premiership - Rangers Hamilton Academical

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Found this regarding the 15 minutes exposure.

 

 

CDC updates its guidelines for close Covid-19 contact after prison guard gets infected

Wednesday, October 21st 2020, 5:43 PM CDT

Updated: Thursday, October 22nd 2020, 6:14 AM CDT

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By Maggie Fox and Lauren Mascarenhas, CNN

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has updated its definition of a close contact with a Covid-19 patient to include multiple, brief exposures, after a Vermont prison worker appears to have been infected that way, CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield said Wednesday.

 

The new definition includes exposures adding up to a total of 15 minutes spent six feet or closer to an infected person. Previously, the CDC defined a close contact as 15 minutes of continuous exposure to an infected individual.

 

The agency changed the definition after a report from Vermont of a corrections officer who became infected after several brief interactions with coronavirus-positive inmates -- none of them lasting 15 minutes, but adding up over time.

 

The corrections officer never spent much time with any particular inmate, but opened and closed cell doors, collected soiled linen, opened doors to shower and recreation rooms for inmates, conducted health checks and dispensed medication, Julia Pringle, a CDC officer working with the Vermont Department of Health, and colleagues reported.

 

The six inmates had no symptoms and had traveled from out-of-state facilities while they were awaiting coronavirus test results, Pringle's team reported in the CDC's weekly report, the MMWR.

 

His 22 short encounters added up to about 17 minutes of total exposure, the team calculated.

 

The data suggests at least one of the six inmates transmitted the virus to the officer during one of these brief encounters. The six inmates wore microfiber cloth masks for some, but not all interactions with the officer. "During all interactions, the correctional officer wore a microfiber cloth mask, gown, and eye protection (goggles)," the team wrote.

 

Redfield said it's an example of real-world science informing policy. The CDC has now updated its definition of what constitutes a close contact.

 

"As we get more data and understand the science of Covid, we are going to incorporate that in our recommendations," Redfield said at a news conference held at CDC headquarters in Atlanta.

 

 

"Originally, contact that was considered to be high risk for potential exposure to Covid was someone within six feet for more than 15 minutes," Redfield added.

 

The new data is being incorporated into recommendations, he said.

 

"In an MMWR published today, CDC and Vermont health officials found that multiple, short and non-consecutive exposures to persons confirmed to have COVID-19 led to transmission," the CDC said in a statement.

 

"The CDC website now defines a close contact as someone who was within 6 feet of an infected person for a total of 15 minutes or more over a 24-hour period. Previous language defined a close contact as someone who spent at least 15 minutes within 6 feet of a confirmed case."

 

The website notes that this is not an exact science

 

"Factors to consider when defining close contact include proximity (closer distance likely increases exposure risk), the duration of exposure (longer exposure time likely increases exposure risk), whether the infected individual has symptoms (the period around onset of symptoms is associated with the highest levels of viral shedding), if the infected person was likely to generate respiratory aerosols (e.g., was coughing, singing, shouting), and other environmental factors (crowding, adequacy of ventilation, whether exposure was indoors or outdoors)," it says.

 

And it's clear what people should do, the CDC says.

 

"Wearing a mask is one of the most effective steps you can take to help stop the spread of COVID-19," the CDC said in the statement.

 

"A mask can protect other people from the virus-containing particles exhaled by someone who has COVID-19. As many as half of all people who have COVID-19 don't show symptoms, so it's critical to wear a mask because you could be carrying the virus and not know it," it added.

 

"While a mask provides some limited protection to the wearer, each additional person who wears a mask increases the individual protection for everyone. When more people wear masks, more people are protected."

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said:

Disagree mate. They played Brugge who had players with it the game before. This virus is a cunt. 

No guarantee the Liege players caught it from the Brugge players, apparently Belgium is rife. 
I don’t think we should have been sent over there based on the amount of cases they have. 
European football needs to look at things cased on the levels in each country or players will be dropping like stones. 

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5 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said:

Very worrying.

Could have a knock on affect for us with Poznan and Killie up coming.

Last thing we need. Can’t have anything make us lose our advantage after us being able to, in the immortal words of tarrier Sheridan “put them to the sword”. 

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1 minute ago, Dave Hedgehog said:

No guarantee the Liege players caught it from the Brugge players, apparently Belgium is rife. 
I don’t think we should have been sent over there based on the amount of cases they have. 
European football needs to look at things cased on the levels in each country or players will be dropping like stones. 

What are the odds though mate? It’s too coincidental. 

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Just now, .Williamson. said:

What way does this work for football players?

Like does the average person not have to self isolate now after being in contact with someone that has it?

I'm assuming they'll need to self isolate if they've had close contact with someone, which is anyone they've spent a certain period of time (15 minutes?) with.

Although, this is different from the advice given at the start of all this, and will more than likely be different again at some point in the near future.

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7 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said:

What are the odds though mate? It’s too coincidental. 

When Scotland got together the players trained together and Stuart Armstrong had COVID.

The only players that had to isolate where the two that spent a period of time in his “bubble”.

None of the rest of the team who trained with him had to as they weren’t in the required close contact “bubble”.

Not to say we might not end up getting hit with it but this panic setting in, I have heard people say our whole squad out there might need to isolate, is really jumping the gun.

We will hopefully be fine. 👍

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21 minutes ago, .Williamson. said:

What way does this work for football players?

Like does the average person not have to self isolate now after being in contact with someone that has it?

 

13 minutes ago, BlueMe said:

I'm assuming they'll need to self isolate if they've had close contact with someone, which is anyone they've spent a certain period of time (15 minutes?) with.

Although, this is different from the advice given at the start of all this, and will more than likely be different again at some point in the near future.

The whole Standard team would've had to self isolate after the Bruges game if that was the case, no?

I don't know the exact case, but that seemingly isn't it.

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18 minutes ago, Siam69 said:

 

The whole Standard team would've had to self isolate after the Bruges game if that was the case, no?

I don't know the exact case, but that seemingly isn't it.

No idea mate.

Close contact as in - someone who shares a flat etc but fuck knows about a dressing room?

Whole thing's a mess tbh.

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9 minutes ago, Smile said:

Their coaches and players screaming at us face to face at the end was never a good idea with Covid so prevalent now.

That prick with the mask pulled half way down who got in Roofes face needs a talking to tbh.

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