SPFL Covid questions to clubs

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“We have already carried out one such consultation exercise this season and the second, which we have just completed, is unlikely to be the last. In the interests of transparency, we expect that we’ll continue to monitor and publish the collective views of clubs as the season develops.”

 

Fucking Bully they mean, not monitor, I take it they'll just keep asking till they can wrangle a way to install THEM as champions. 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715]

16 minutes ago, Prso's headband said:

We’re a third of the way through the season already. December is a relatively short month in the grand scheme of office based working, not football on the park obviously. 
 

By the time the next old firm game comes around we’ll have played what 23-24 games? 6 short of the 30 game season last year iirc
 

They can’t just churn out loaded questions every week hoping to get a team onside every time it gets voted down.

 

Re your last paragraph, it won't be weekly but it will be regularly until they get concensus.

You'd think PPG at 30 games would be a resolution & threshold given last year, I'm doubtful it is as simple as that.

Nul and void didn't make it onto the table last year. Yet here we are and 40% of clubs support it unless an unspecified amount of games are played. Very telling imo.

[eejay the dj 31,964]

34 minutes ago, Prso's headband said:

12 clubs? Can bet cellic, Dunfermline, brechin, Raith, Cove, Dundee Utd, Dundee, Alloa are 8 of them. Fly as fuck bastards btw. 
 

Glad it’s been voted against. The precedent was set last season. If we get to 75% of games played as it stands just now we should be declared champions, also disregarding games in hand like last season as well

Hivs ,Ross county ,Livingston and Albion rovers would be my other 4 

[eejay the dj 31,964]

Winning this title is going to be the best feeling and best week in my football supporting life .It will kill our enemies 😄

[Almacger 1,442]

3 minutes ago, eejay the dj said:

Winning this title is going to be the best feeling and best week in my football supporting life .It will kill our enemies 😄

It certainly would be, just have to hope though that our enemies don’t fuck us over with their dirty tricks off the park

[JCDBigBear 10,824]

1 hour ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Tuesday 3rd November 2020

SPFL ANNOUNCES LATEST CLUB CONSULTATION RESPONSES

THE SPFL HAS COMPLETED ITS LATEST CONSULTATION EXERCISE WITH ALL 42 MEMBER CLUBS

The SPFL has completed its latest consultation exercise with all 42 member clubs, gauging views on a range of issues related to Covid-19 and their possible effects during the current season.

SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster said: “Like everyone in the game, the board is keen to avoid the division and dispute caused when Scottish Government restrictions prompted by Covid-19 forced the curtailment of last season.

“In light of the fast-changing nature of coronavirus restrictions, the board is seeking to ensure that the game is as well-prepared as it can be for any eventuality and the League is consulting regularly with all 42 member clubs.

“We have already carried out one such consultation exercise this season and the second, which we have just completed, is unlikely to be the last. In the interests of transparency, we expect that we’ll continue to monitor and publish the collective views of clubs as the season develops.”

Club responses included the following:

- 20 clubs agreed that they would be content to give the SPFL Board at this stage in the season power to curtail the season (on a points per game basis) if a particular threshold of matches had been played by the date of curtailment;

- 17 clubs agreed that they would be content to give the SPFL Board the power now to void the season if an insufficient number of matches had been played by the date of curtailment;

- 12 clubs were in favour of the SPFL Board being granted broad powers to manage further Covid-19 related disruption to the season. A number of other clubs were undecided on the issue, with some suggesting that they may reconsider later in the season;

- only four clubs were in favour of the SPFL Board being given the power to impose a 3-0 defeat on any club not fulfilling a fixture. A number of clubs expressed the view that the existing system, which gives the Board power to allow or refuse individual League Match postponements and to investigate the circumstances, which may result in disciplinary proceedings being commenced, allows “due process” to be followed before any sanction is imposed;

- a wide range of views were expressed as to how many fixtures should be completed for a valid season to be deemed to have been completed, in the event of early curtailment; and

- 19 clubs felt that it was “too early to take decisions now” and that decisions on any Covid-19 related disruption should be considered later in the season.

Neil Doncaster said: “We are grateful to all those clubs who responded to the questionnaire. It is very clear from the responses that there is no consensus, let alone the necessary majorities, for any decision to be taken now about how we might draw this season to a close if it becomes impracticable to complete all fixtures as a result of Covid 19 disruption.

The board continues to seek to complete every scheduled League fixture on its scheduled date, except where necessarily dislocated by cup matches, and welcomes the Scottish FA board decision to have no replays in Scottish Cup matches during the current season.

“Encouragingly, the Scottish Government’s Covid-19 Strategic Framework underlines that professional football will continue to be permitted, even under Tier 4 restrictions, giving us the best possible chance of completing the season, and that remains our over-riding focus.”

These answers epitomise how petty, small-minded and parochial are the people who run many of Scottish football clubs.

[Hadron Collider 30,868]

6 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said:

These answers epitomise how petty, small-minded and parochial are the people who run many of Scottish football clubs.

These cunts are going to try and get this season voided. 

[Ivybank 4,580]

6 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said:

These answers epitomise how petty, small-minded and parochial are the people who run many of Scottish football clubs.

You’ve just summed up the Scottish psyche 😓

[British_Empire 9,648]

Again, I know it's stating the obvious, and been said before - but I'm still sitting here, baffled, as to why there's even any debate and the clubs are struggling to get an agreement on calling/voiding the league should Covid force the issue.

They were all agreeable and resolute only a few months when it came to awarding Celtic a title they hadn't actually win. Therefore, a precedent has been set. They used blackmail, lies and falsehoods about the only way to release prize monies they were holding onto. 

Could anyone imagine it being the same stalemate should Celtic be on top of the league and also ahead on the points-per-game formula? no. Me neither.

Would be great if we could maybe muster a wee statement calling this out - unless, of course, we're one of the undecided teams or not wanting it called.

[Hadron Collider 30,868]

2 minutes ago, British_Empire said:

Again, I know it's stating the obvious, and been said before - but I'm still sitting here, baffled, as to why there's even any debate and the clubs are struggling to get an agreement on calling/voiding the league should Covid force the issue.

They were all agreeable and resolute only a few months when it came to awarding Celtic a title they hadn't actually win. Therefore, a precedent has been set. They used blackmail, lies and falsehoods about the only way to release prize monies they were holding onto. 

Could anyone imagine it being the same stalemate should Celtic be on top of the league and also ahead on the points-per-game formula? no. Me neither.

Would be great if we could maybe muster a wee statement calling this out - unless, of course, we're one of the undecided teams or not wanting it called.

They’re shitting it mate. The big 10 is under serious threat so they’re going for the voided season. 

[British_Empire 9,648]

3 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said:

They’re shitting it mate. The big 10 is under serious threat so they’re going for the voided season. 

Aye that's obvious to anyone - hopefully it's equally obvious to our board though for a wee change and they've decided they're actually ready for a fight this time.

We can't keep getting shafted like this*

*potentially. Nothing has been won yet, obviously.

[BlueKnight87 17,284]

32 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said:

They’re shitting it mate. The big 10 is under serious threat so they’re going for the voided season. 

It's clear as day they are scared. 

Last season null and void wasn't even discussed. We were told it would destroy the Scottish game etc. 

As @British_Empire said the precedent has now been set with the PPG finish last season.

As usual but the taigs will want it both ways. PPG if they are in front and Null and void if they aren't. 

[Prso's headband 35,438]

41 minutes ago, British_Empire said:

Again, I know it's stating the obvious, and been said before - but I'm still sitting here, baffled, as to why there's even any debate and the clubs are struggling to get an agreement on calling/voiding the league should Covid force the issue.

They were all agreeable and resolute only a few months when it came to awarding Celtic a title they hadn't actually win. Therefore, a precedent has been set. They used blackmail, lies and falsehoods about the only way to release prize monies they were holding onto. 

Could anyone imagine it being the same stalemate should Celtic be on top of the league and also ahead on the points-per-game formula? no. Me neither.

Would be great if we could maybe muster a wee statement calling this out - unless, of course, we're one of the undecided teams or not wanting it called.

There’s a lot of football to be played but there is a potential here for us to be double points ahead with them having a game in hand by the time the league is 75% complete, the same scenario as last season. That’s the precedent and that’s when it should be ended with Rangers declared champions if be. 
 

Obviously I want a full season played and tears across Scotland but they can’t possibly void this season after handing out trophies the way they did last season

[British_Empire 9,648]

1 minute ago, Prso's headband said:

There’s a lot of football to be played but there is a potential here for us to be double points ahead with them having a game in hand by the time the league is 75% complete, the same scenario as last season. That’s the precedent and that’s when it should be ended with Rangers declared champions if be. 
 

Obviously I want a full season played and tears across Scotland but they can’t possibly void this season after handing out trophies the way they did last season

I don't think that 75% is actually a rule tho.

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715]

Just now, British_Empire said:

I don't think that 75% is actually a rule tho.

It wasn't last year and the spfl haven't disclosed 'thresholds' and the no of games that are 'sufficient' as a minimum for league to be concluded if need be.

[kirkiebear 1,013]

They will do anything they can to hit the reset button on this season , especially if celtic drop anymore points before we do. Two former chairmen of spfl clubs have already came out and spoke of Lawells unhealthy influence on the league. It’s as clear as day he will be moving heaven and earth to get the league voided.

[MacBoyd 5,438]

Why is there any threat of the season not getting finished though?

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6 minutes ago, MacBoyd said:

Why is there any threat of the season not getting finished though?

There isn't in England. They plan to let elite sports carry on through the lockdown. 

You never know what wee Nicola will do though. She hates football and thinks it is the fountain of all sectarianism. 

There is no reason to stop elite football as rigourous rules and testing are enforced. Players are tested more often than frontline NHS staff and are meant to stay in a bubble to avoid infection. 

You never know though, the SPFL are incompetent and biased towards the dhims and wee Nicola hates football supporters and Unionists. 

 

[Bad Robot 21,149]

Failed:

Fewer than half of all 42 SPFL clubs are in favour of granting the governing body permission to curtail the season.

The SPFL's consultation period with member clubs saw questions over extra powers rejected.

Just 20 said at this stage they would back a move to grant the SPFL the ability to call the season if a threshold of matches had been reached.

And 38 dismissed the notion of the league body imposing a 3-0 defeat if a side cannot fulfil a fixture.

"The board is keen to avoid the division and dispute caused when Scottish government restrictions prompted by Covid-19 forced the curtailment of last season," said SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster.

"It is very clear from the responses that there is no consensus, let alone the necessary majorities, for any decision to be taken now about how we might draw this season to a close if it becomes impracticable to complete all fixtures as a result of Covid-19 disruption.

"The board continues to seek to complete every scheduled league fixture on its scheduled date, except where necessarily dislocated by cup matches, and welcomes the Scottish FA board decision to have no replays in Scottish Cup matches during the current season."

Should clubs forfeit games after call-offs?

The SPFL board wrote to all member clubs last month asking them to consider various questions regarding a contingency plan if Covid-19 was to severely impact fixtures throughout the campaign.

In July, a vote to take control should there be a repeat of last term's Covid-19 shutdown was rejected, with not enough support garnered in the latest questionnaire to back a further ballot. 

Results of the consultation included:

A total of 20 clubs agreed they would be content to give the SPFL board at this stage in the season power to curtail the campaign (on a points per game basis) if a particular threshold of matches had been played by the date of curtailment. 

Just 17 clubs agreed that they would be content to give the SPFL board the power now to void the season if an insufficient number of matches had been played by the date of curtailment.

Twelve clubs were in favour of the SPFL board being granted broad powers to manage further Covid-19 related disruption to the season.

Only four clubs were in favour of the SPFL Board being given the power to impose a 3-0 defeat on any club not fulfilling a fixture.

Nineteen clubs felt that it was "too early to take decisions now" and that decisions on any Covid-19 related disruption should be considered later in the season. 

Already this season several teams have had games postponed because of the impact of Covid-19.

St Mirren's last two matches were called off as they could not field a team, while Aberdeen, Celtic and Kilmarnock have also had fixtures postponed.

Both Kilmarnock and St Mirren have been accused of by the SPFL of breaching Covid-19 regulations, with a board sub-committee, chaired by an independent legally-qualified chair, due to meet on 10 and/or 11 November.

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26 minutes ago, Bad Robot said:

Failed:

Fewer than half of all 42 SPFL clubs are in favour of granting the governing body permission to curtail the season.

The SPFL's consultation period with member clubs saw questions over extra powers rejected.

Just 20 said at this stage they would back a move to grant the SPFL the ability to call the season if a threshold of matches had been reached.

And 38 dismissed the notion of the league body imposing a 3-0 defeat if a side cannot fulfil a fixture.

"The board is keen to avoid the division and dispute caused when Scottish government restrictions prompted by Covid-19 forced the curtailment of last season," said SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster.

"It is very clear from the responses that there is no consensus, let alone the necessary majorities, for any decision to be taken now about how we might draw this season to a close if it becomes impracticable to complete all fixtures as a result of Covid-19 disruption.

"The board continues to seek to complete every scheduled league fixture on its scheduled date, except where necessarily dislocated by cup matches, and welcomes the Scottish FA board decision to have no replays in Scottish Cup matches during the current season."

Should clubs forfeit games after call-offs?

The SPFL board wrote to all member clubs last month asking them to consider various questions regarding a contingency plan if Covid-19 was to severely impact fixtures throughout the campaign.

In July, a vote to take control should there be a repeat of last term's Covid-19 shutdown was rejected, with not enough support garnered in the latest questionnaire to back a further ballot. 

Results of the consultation included:

A total of 20 clubs agreed they would be content to give the SPFL board at this stage in the season power to curtail the campaign (on a points per game basis) if a particular threshold of matches had been played by the date of curtailment. 

Just 17 clubs agreed that they would be content to give the SPFL board the power now to void the season if an insufficient number of matches had been played by the date of curtailment.

Twelve clubs were in favour of the SPFL board being granted broad powers to manage further Covid-19 related disruption to the season.

Only four clubs were in favour of the SPFL Board being given the power to impose a 3-0 defeat on any club not fulfilling a fixture.

Nineteen clubs felt that it was "too early to take decisions now" and that decisions on any Covid-19 related disruption should be considered later in the season. 

Already this season several teams have had games postponed because of the impact of Covid-19.

St Mirren's last two matches were called off as they could not field a team, while Aberdeen, Celtic and Kilmarnock have also had fixtures postponed.

Both Kilmarnock and St Mirren have been accused of by the SPFL of breaching Covid-19 regulations, with a board sub-committee, chaired by an independent legally-qualified chair, due to meet on 10 and/or 11 November.

They will keep pushing to try and get a consensus mate. Make no mistake, these cunts are at it to void the season.  

[Bad Robot 21,149]

6 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said:

They will keep pushing to try and get a consensus mate. Make no mistake, these cunts are at it to void the season.  

I’m interested to know how many matches they think need to be played before the season can be called 

[Hadron Collider 30,868]

3 minutes ago, Bad Robot said:

I’m interested to know how many matches they think need to be played before the season can be called 

It’s a good question mate. Didn’t stop them last year declaring a tainted champion. We just need to keep piling on the points. 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715]

7 minutes ago, Bad Robot said:

I’m interested to know how many matches they think need to be played before the season can be called 

Seems strange they've mentioned the number of teams voting for each decision but not provided that kind of detail.

[eejay the dj 31,964]

53 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said:

They will keep pushing to try and get a consensus mate. Make no mistake, these cunts are at it to void the season.  

They do these things,to get to see who they have to work on. Just like they kept doing at end of last season .

Well this time they have their work cut out . Won't stop them trying . And lets face it . Anything would be possible , with these corrupt bastards 

The important thing . We cannot be distracted. We have to win every league game from now until Christmas . Just for our first target 

[Hadron Collider 30,868]

Just now, eejay the dj said:

They do these things to get to see who they have to work on . Just like they kept doing at end of last season .

Well this time they have their work cut out . Won't stop them trying . And lets face it . Anything would be possible , with these corrupt bastards 

The important thing . We cannot be distracted. We have to win every league game from now until Christmas . Just for our first target 

Points mean prizes mate. We need to build the gap.