Bears r us 30,561 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said: Just my opinion but fan ownership could leave us in the shit big time. If the other shareholders don’t put money in, where’s it coming from? Certainly not getting £10 - £15 million in loans from c1872. This would not be fan ownership really, but even 25% I think could but off many wealthy people from investing in the future. If the majority of Rangers fans sign up because they think it will always safeguard the Club, and they buy these shares we will just have to go with it, but my faith in C1872 being capable to carry this out and then put a person of calibre on the board if they purchased the shares is very low. AlbertzLoyalRSC, jamess, Perth_Campsie_Ger and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,561 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, LochendBilly said: Read the bumph on Club1872 website, a wee certificate and no control over any shares for my money? No thanks from me plus I have zero confidence in Club1872. What is the cost of this scheme mate ? and how many do they say they need to make it work ? Ta Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,381 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Surely fan ownership only means there is a main voice from the supporters, but with all the heavy investors still involved? Soft loans etc all being still on the table if needed. no really clued up on it all The Beast 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, born a blue nose said: Surely fan ownership only means there is a main voice from the supporters, but with all the heavy investors still involved? Soft loans etc all being still on the table if needed. no really clued up on it all Why would other shareholders put the money up if c1872 became the majority shareholder though mate? Would you not expect them to chip in as well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,381 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said: Why would other shareholders put the money up if c1872 became the majority shareholder though mate? Would you not expect them to chip in as well? One of the main reasons if you took away the ‘rangers fan’ part, would be to make money on fluctuating stock price a would think. as a said av nae clue mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,305 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 26 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said: Back to the old days of Craig Whyte selling off the lot to keep us going. Just got shivers there mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamess 3,388 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I was enthusiastic when c1872 started and willingly gave my 18.72 each month. But the issue of who was in charge and the fact the money going into the scheme didn't mean any money going into the club. Its a shame King does not open the sale to any fans as I am sure he would sell all his shares. That would give a fans voice, but would side step the issue of which single individual represents the fans. And i'm not sure this is an attractive environment for big money individuals to invest - this is what will most likely take us forward. Bears r us 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Ranger 3,187 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, The Beast said: So.... Chris Graham? 😂 You’re like one of those beggars obsessed with Rangers only you’re obsession is Chris Graham. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn leghorn 608 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Bears r us said: What is the cost of this scheme mate ? and how many do they say they need to make it work ? Ta The lowest payment level is £500 and without looking into C1872's website or being influenced by posts tonight, I'm giving it serious consideration as a chance to help the club. RowX and Bears r us 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LochendBilly 8,409 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, Bears r us said: What is the cost of this scheme mate ? and how many do they say they need to make it work ? Ta 500 Quid donation mate.... as taken from website: What are my options on how to make a legacy donation? You can make a legacy donation in a one-off donation, over 10 months or over 25 months. There is also a choice of card payments or direct debit. Once the legacy donation is complete, donations will revert to a standard £10 per month but this can be altered at any time without effecting your status as a legacy member with a lifetime vote on all Club 1872 matters and all votes of the shares Club 1872 holds in Rangers International Football Club Plc. Bears r us 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,142 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, born a blue nose said: Surely fan ownership only means there is a main voice from the supporters, but with all the heavy investors still involved? Soft loans etc all being still on the table if needed. no really clued up on it all Yes but if they then converted them to shares that then dilutes Club 1872’s holding and for them to hold it above the 25 percent they would need funds. LochendBilly 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,121 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Real Ranger said: 😂 You’re like one of those beggars obsessed with Rangers only you’re obsession is Chris Graham. Is asking a simple question an obsession? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,381 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, STEPPS BOY said: Yes but if they then converted them to shares that then dilutes Club 1872’s holding and for them to hold it above the 25 percent they would need funds. Absolutely STEPPS BOY 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,305 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 King wants some of his money back. Maybe not all. I hope he has put this offering to the rest of the board. I don’t blame him at all, but surely there could be other investors out there who would want a piece of this. Fucksakes, it’s Rangers. RowX, geneva_ger and AlbertzLoyalRSC 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,561 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, LochendBilly said: 500 Quid donation mate.... as taken from website: What are my options on how to make a legacy donation? You can make a legacy donation in a one-off donation, over 10 months or over 25 months. There is also a choice of card payments or direct debit. Once the legacy donation is complete, donations will revert to a standard £10 per month but this can be altered at any time without effecting your status as a legacy member with a lifetime vote on all Club 1872 matters and all votes of the shares Club 1872 holds in Rangers International Football Club Plc. So £500 is what they are thinking will get in the amount of £££'s required to raise this money ?? I must admit I thought it would be higher. If my quick calculation is correct it seems to be 26,000 members required, i have probably made a balls of that. foghorn leghorn and LochendBilly 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,561 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, The Beast said: Is asking a simple question an obsession? It does seem either no one knows or do not want to answer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,142 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, born a blue nose said: Absolutely Can i put you down for a 500 pound membership? born a blue nose 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,381 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Just now, STEPPS BOY said: Can i put you down for a 500 pound membership? Yesai STEPPS BOY 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Ranger 3,187 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, The Beast said: Is asking a simple question an obsession? Dave King intends to sell his share holding to a Rangers fans group and your first thought is Chris Graham.😩 Almost forgot about you and your past rantings where you labelled Rangers fans vermin for backing King and co whilst opposing the likes of Ashley and Summers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,305 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Would like to see thing stabilized before any investment. Just not sure on this. Bears r us 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneva_ger 9,242 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Dave King agrees deal to sell Rangers shares to fans group Club 1872. Former Rangers chairman Dave King has agreed to sell all his shares in the club to fans group Club 1872. The sale, when complete, will make Club 1872 the largest single shareholder in Rangers International Football Club (RIFC) Plc. Ok so why not sell on the market? He doesn't want charlatans to once again have any control in our club, good move. I would imagine that our genuine big shareholders holders will join C1872 and snap them up and have a representative who will be invited on to the board. Too simple? Real Ranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,238 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Hadron Collider said: I’m sure there are fans nervous about this, but we need more info. A plan from C1872 needs to be put out there before any sane Rangers fan thinks about where their money goes. That they don’t feel the need to even sign post their intent to say more other than roll up, roll up makes me nervous. LochendBilly 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,121 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Real Ranger said: Dave King intends to sell his share holding to a Rangers fans group and your first thought is Chris Graham.😩 Almost forgot about you and your past rantings where you labelled Rangers fans vermin for backing King and co whilst opposing the likes of Ashley and Summers. So are you saying Chris Graham is involved or not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,305 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, markem said: That they don’t feel the need to even sign post their intent to say more other than roll up, roll up makes me nervous. You understand what I’m saying mate. I’m not sure on this at all. LochendBilly, markem and Bears r us 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn leghorn 608 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, geneva_ger said: Dave King agrees deal to sell Rangers shares to fans group Club 1872. Former Rangers chairman Dave King has agreed to sell all his shares in the club to fans group Club 1872. The sale, when complete, will make Club 1872 the largest single shareholder in Rangers International Football Club (RIFC) Plc. Ok so why not sell on the market? He doesn't want charlatans to once again have any control in our club, good move. I would imagine that our genuine big shareholders holders will join C1872 and snap them up and have a representative who will be invited on to the board. Too simple? What individual can afford £13m to cover DK's shares? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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