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That selection has quite simply cost us 2 goals tonight, the 1st: a stonewall penalty and then 2nd: letting the cross come in for a quick scramble and shot.

I’m all for a bit of rotation and the slight arrogance bossing it against Lech Poznań with 7 changes but this has cost us a massive opportunity at a domestic trophy tonight with our rivals already having been knocked out. We need to bounce back against Motherwell.

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I take your point but we have coped well with change all season, I doubt anyone was too concerned at the line up prior to ko....hindsight is a wonderful thing....it's also worth noting that Goldson gave the ball away cheaply at the 2nd goal he gifted possession which led to ball getting fed down the right to Connolly  ....it was a similar error to the one that cost us the first goal against the papes last season 

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Just now, hammer93 said:

I take your point but we have coped well with change all season, I doubt anyone was too concerned at the line up prior to ko....hindsight is a wonderful thing....it's also worth noting that Goldson gave the ball away cheaply at the 2nd goal he gifted possession which led to ball getting fed down the right to Connolly  ....it was a similar error to the one that cost us the first goal against the papes last season 

Hindsight is obviously a great thing but that inexperience has cost us 2 goals if defended/better or had we stuck with the tried and tested Croatian left-back. (Don’t know if carrying a knock)

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2 minutes ago, hammer93 said:

I think the wind played a part in that tbh

Maybe so I just remember shouting wtf was that as it landed straight back at them. Love the man but his weakness is his refusal to come for crosses. 6 yard box should be the keepers demain all day

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2 hours ago, CR3 said:

That selection has quite simply cost us 2 goals tonight, the 1st: a stonewall penalty and then 2nd: letting the cross come in for a quick scramble and shot.

I’m all for a bit of rotation and the slight arrogance bossing it against Lech Poznań with 7 changes but this has cost us a massive opportunity at a domestic trophy tonight with our rivals already having been knocked out. We need to bounce back against Motherwell.

I agree to an extent, Bassey has a poor game, but I’m not against rotation. The decision to rotate so many against Lech paid off as we had players hungry to play there way into then team. 
 

For me though, tonight wasn’t the place to make unnecessary changes! Most people will say now, “it’s the league that matters” but surely we should have been going into this game as a must win. 
 

It’s almost as if people, the manager and players as well, expected us to just turn up and beat a poor St Mirren team but with that lot out of the cup this is a HUGE chance missed. Imagine the boost we wouid have got from winning the cup! 
 

There’s no need for panic but tonight we should have been flying out the traps at the chance to get to a semi final and instead we didn’t turn up. That’s not good enough!

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1 hour ago, bluenoz said:

I said it in the pre-match thread. It made no sense.

Too much tinkering with a winning side.

We win last night with Barisic, Kamara and Davis starting.

What's the old saying? If it ain't broken...

This is it for me! 
 

Im not against rotation but last night we should have had our strongest team out, flying from kick off to get into the semi final, then if we get a lead, make changes. 
 

It’s another chance for a trophy gone and it’s not good enough, I wouid much rather we had rotated against Motherwell and made sure of the result tonight. 
 

We are desperate for silverware and as a team it would be a massive step forward to where we want to be! This just feeds the already fat monkey on our back!

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Agree I don't get the laid back team selection at all probably one of the easiest chances to win a trophy and show times have changed wasted, Especially leaving out Barisic with his crossing ability and would have probably defended better than Bassey did aswell, It's not like St Mirrens form is poor or anything he should have respected them more and went with a full strength team and got the job done then brought a few players on.

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Playing Bassey last night, wasn’t in itself a bad decision, albeit he had a poor game. The biggest issue was changing how we play in midfield. We play with two defensive midfielders, but only played with one last night. And that one is also inexperienced in the Scottish game. That was the big mistake. An established internationalist like Barisic may have been able to cope with that, but not a relatively inexperienced player.

And let’s be honest the whole defence wasn’t nearly as good last night as it normally is either. We were under pressure far too many times, which was reflected when our first subs weren’t just to take off Bassey, but to revert to our normal midfield formation.

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3 minutes ago, left winger said:

Playing Bassey last night, wasn’t in itself a bad decision, albeit he had a poor game. The biggest issue was changing how we play in midfield. We play with two defensive midfielders, but only played with one last night. And that one is also inexperienced in the Scottish game. That was the big mistake. An established internationalist like Barisic may have been able to cope with that, but not a relatively inexperienced player.

And let’s be honest the whole defence wasn’t nearly as good last night as it normally is either. We were under pressure far too many times, which was reflected when our first subs weren’t just to take off Bassey, but to revert to our normal midfield formation.

We’ve played with one defensive mid the majority of the season. 

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I don’t think you can pin the blame on one player. 
 

Bassey had an off night, but so did everyone else. It’s the type of game we should be able to play a younger player in and the rest of the side carries them. 
 

It baffles me we don’t have concussion subs in modern football. If we’d been allowed to bring Helander on for Balogun, I very much doubt we see the goalmouth scrambles at the end

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Gerrard made a cunt of it, and to be fair to him has took the derry for it.  In what was a must win game he has fielded a weakened team, and it has bit us on the arse, I hope to fuck these players have learned from the past two years and don't let this loss affect them.  Got to play your strongest team, because other teams sense weakness.  Already got motherwell players saying there going to do this and that.  Need to be fired up to fuck on Saturday and for the foreseeable.  No surrender Rangers.

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5 hours ago, CR3 said:

That selection has quite simply cost us 2 goals tonight, the 1st: a stonewall penalty and then 2nd: letting the cross come in for a quick scramble and shot.

I’m all for a bit of rotation and the slight arrogance bossing it against Lech Poznań with 7 changes but this has cost us a massive opportunity at a domestic trophy tonight with our rivals already having been knocked out. We need to bounce back against Motherwell.

I think it shows Bassey up for the inexperienced player he is. He's always cast a bit of doubt defensively, looked stronger going forward.

I'd no issues starting him, but then I've not seen him targeted and as poor previously. Tav was man marked but his shadow followed him, Bassey couldn't push on at all and allowed pressure to come to him.

For me Borna on at half time addresses it, its like a free sub and was going to happen anyways early 2nd half. That we didn't, it cost us, and that's down to Gerrard.

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1 hour ago, Cedrick said:

I had no problem with bassey starting he’s not put a foot wrong this season so that decision was fine the lad just had his first poor game , the alarm bells were ringing when I seen the middle of the park though 

Agree Bassey had a bad game but the midfield was a big issue. Offered little in terms of defensive cover when required or forward movement with all of the ball we had in the first half. Aribo, Zunga and Arfield were all poor.

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6 hours ago, bluenoz said:

I said it in the pre-match thread. It made no sense.

Too much tinkering with a winning side.

We win last night with Barisic, Kamara and Davis starting.

What's the old saying? If it ain't broken...

100pc agree ,If those 3 play we win .

last season we stuck with the same hardcore group and by the time the winter break came they needed it and struggled to get going again .

This season we have far more options so we can rotate better .It’s worked well so far .Hindsight is wonderful of course but it’s clear resting all 3 was an error that needs to be learned from .

Kamara has been superb and covering the fullbacks forward runs so in future if one of our 2 main full backs are out Kamara must play .

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Bassey has been pretty impressive for the most part and really exceeded expectations, waiting for him to have an off night then saying "aye see I told you, I knew it" is a bit shit... I assume though there has been threads when he has played well saying " i was fucking completely wrong tonight saying Bassey shouldn't start" there must be aye or not? It's a no isn't it. 

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6 hours ago, KingKirk said:

Maybe so I just remember shouting wtf was that as it landed straight back at them. Love the man but his weakness is his refusal to come for crosses. 6 yard box should be the keepers demain all day

He didn't have a great game at all last night. Had no idea of where that ball was that hit the top of the bar, and you could tell he was in one of his irritated moods as he was overreacting to anything.

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The players who came in had all looked good previously. It was a mentality issue rather than a talent issue in my opinion. Every time Zungu got the ball he was looking to slow it down and go sideways, the full backs weren’t attacking as much as usual, players were standing off 50/50 challenges

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Big Bassey needs to learn from Barisic. However he has been good in other games and will get another chance(just not against a Mwell).
The Kamara Barisic axis is an important part of the team. Count the number of times Kamara passes the ball out to Barasic in other matches. Our offence on the left wing was nowhere last night and Kent had two men on him as soon as he got possession.

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49 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said:

Bassey should be used sparingly as a sub when we’re coasting games and Borna has done his job. 
 

not the complete fucking opposite 

tbf he’s still not even half decent 

Hugely lacking in experience ,Last night was his first tastenof defeat as a first team player .They do say you learn more in defeat than victory .

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