C*ltc

[PromDeAnglais 5,470]

2 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

More positive cases with the tarriers is the rumour, not Hibs.

Guy on Rangers Radio saying its not just them. Unless its another unrelated team. Could well be. 

[KingKirk 25,633]

Gotta be honest I'd really struggle to get through these next 4 to 6 weeks without football. Cold wet and dark January and February. Clearly health comes first but hopefully we avoid a full shutdown 

[Sweetheart 8,458]

5 hours ago, esquire8 said:

All depends if Sturgeon sees this as a red card for the JRG or not. Its them that's made a mockery of the situation.

True, but her beef is with cfc/SFA/SPFL they're the one's who stuck two fingers up at her. she's not going to close the whole of sports down because of their stupidity. I think she may send somebody in to make sure the right protocols are in place and get the answers she needs from the investigation she requested. 

[alibali59 689]

Just shut that lot down shower of 

[Sweetheart 8,458]

3 minutes ago, KingKirk said:

Gotta be honest I'd really struggle to get through these next 4 to 6 weeks without football. Cold wet and dark January and February. Clearly health comes first but hopefully we avoid a full shutdown 

Me too i've been in isolation since March last year due to health reasons.

[esquire8 42,608]

5 minutes ago, PromDeAnglais said:

Guy on Rangers Radio saying its not just them. Unless its another unrelated team. Could well be. 

Its related because supposedly one or more of the positive tests came from players who played against Hibs that were in Dubai.

[esquire8 42,608]

4 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:

True, but her beef is with cfc/SFA/SPFL their the one's who stuck two fingers up at her. she's not going to close the whole of sports down because of their stupidity. I think she may sent somebody in to make sure the right protocols are in place and get the answers she need from the investigation she requested. 

Yes her beef is with the JRG. The same JRG that run the game. They/Lawwell wouldn't hesitate to slam on the brakes.

[Sweetheart 8,458]

Just now, esquire8 said:

Its related because supposedly one or more of the positive tests came from players who played against Hibs that were in Dubai.

Gross negligence, I hope heads role tomorrow at the crisis meeting.

[Sweetheart 8,458]

1 minute ago, esquire8 said:

Yes her beef is with the JRG. The same JRG that run the game. They/Lawwell wouldn't hesitate to slam on the brakes.

He'd need a vote from member clubs. I hope he is sacked tomorrow.

[esquire8 42,608]

Just now, Sweetheart said:

Gross negligence, I hope heads role tomorrow at the crisis meeting.

You know very well they won't so you can stop hoping. Crisis meeting is actually just a general meeting that was scheduled for anyway.

[BlueSuedeSambas 53,781]

If celtic and Hibs have both returned more positive tests then they just cancel/delay both clubs next game, they make them play youth team players or they play the fixture at a later date and every other team carries on like normal.

That’s what has happened with a number of fixtures in England with clubs who have had significant outbreaks (regardless of how, where or why the outbreak started) and that’s the correct way to handle it here too. 

People need to stop pedalling this “football will be stopped“ and “null and void” chat as their go to response every single time there is the slightest development with this. All it’s doing is creating paranoia, unneeded worry and a potential self fulfilling prophecy.

[Sweetheart 8,458]

Just now, esquire8 said:

You know very well they won't so you can stop hoping. Crisis meeting is actually just a general meeting that was scheduled for anyway.

I hope and believe, sooner rather than later, that Scottish football league members will wake up and get the corruption out of the game.

[PromDeAnglais 5,470]

9 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

Its related because supposedly one or more of the positive tests came from players who played against Hibs that were in Dubai.

Ahhhh that makes sense. Hope its true then. Fuck them.

[Sweetheart 8,458]

15 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

If celtic and Hibs have both returned more positive tests then they just cancel/delay both clubs next game, they make them play youth team players or they play the fixture at a later date and every other team carries on like normal.

That’s what has happened with a number of fixtures in England with clubs who have had significant outbreaks (regardless of how, where or why the outbreak started) and that’s the correct way to handle it here too. 

People need to stop pedalling this “football will be stopped“ and “null and void” chat as their go to response every single time there is the slightest development with this. All it’s doing is creating paranoia, unneeded worry and a potential self fulfilling prophecy.

Agreed they are all myths to create fear in our fan base.

Myth 1

The 75% rule was started by Hamilton owner Ronnie MacDonald last season. there's no such rule.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-title-award-fallacy-hamilton-21706396

Myth 2

Null and void can't happen because of legal obligations and refunding money.

https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/appendices-to-rangers-submission-to-the-spfl-agm-parts-1-7.119767/

[stevemac 5,001]

Just me that kind of doesn't want any of the celtic big wigs to go? Lawwell and Co. As long as they are at them they wont move forward. They wont get the investment the squad needs and wont replace the manager with an experienced head or up and coming pro. 

I know they are fucking rotten and hold far too much power in our game, but as long as they are there, as this season is proving, they can't guarantee success.

[bluenoz 30,835]

If Hibs players have tested positive the spfl board must resign immediately. That game should never have taken place. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows that.

[Sweetheart 8,458]

5 minutes ago, stevemac said:

Just me that kind of doesn't want any of the celtic big wigs to go? Lawwell and Co. As long as they are at them they wont move forward. They wont get the investment the squad needs and wont replace the manager with an experienced head or up and coming pro. 

I know they are fucking rotten and hold far too much power in our game, but as long as they are there, as this season is proving, they can't guarantee success.

I would like the corruption removed from the Scottish game so that it can be rebuilt to benefit all. If every league was considered a level and had a part to play in nurturing players starting from grass roots levels into home grown players, then the whole game would benefit.

[RFCRobertson 11,778]

40 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

If celtic and Hibs have both returned more positive tests then they just cancel/delay both clubs next game, they make them play youth team players or they play the fixture at a later date and every other team carries on like normal.

That’s what has happened with a number of fixtures in England with clubs who have had significant outbreaks (regardless of how, where or why the outbreak started) and that’s the correct way to handle it here too. 

People need to stop pedalling this “football will be stopped“ and “null and void” chat as their go to response every single time there is the slightest development with this. All it’s doing is creating paranoia, unneeded worry and a potential self fulfilling prophecy.

I think the paranoia for most bears come from the fact that he does seem like the Sfa give special treatment to celtic.
 

Last season for example, instead of null and voiding like the vast majority of other leagues they instead make a massive piss up with votes going missing etc just so celtic can win the title. Then you have the scottish cup, not being cancelled instead played ahead of time, impacting the next season. 
 

and then you've got this dubai business, where they came out and said that Hibs have to play else they risk losing points (despite having valid health concerns).

so for a lot of bears, the behaviour of the Sfa does point to something they would do (null and void). And for celtic to seemingly go off the rails into a deep end deeper than the marianna trench seems uncharacteristic lf them, like something doesn't seem right about their behaviour thenow and its like their goading the governing bodies and government to cancel football.

[pollok-bear 7,537]

Red red wine stay close to me

[scottyscott1963 18,310]

1 hour ago, RFCRobertson said:

Last season for example, instead of null and voiding like the vast majority of other leagues they instead make a massive piss up with votes going missing etc just so celtic can win the title. Then you have the scottish cup, not being cancelled instead played ahead of time, impacting the next season. 

This 
Should have been made to play out the season no matter how long it took,and get an eventual REAL winner in Liverpool.
What the fuck did we get after the ashes were blown away of a rigged vote and a boardroom zoom call AWARDING a 75% completed trophy to the biggest corrupt cunts in football,who now claim it as part of some pointless fuckin prize.
Me personally would still be red faced at being awarded a part complete seasons trophy.
Embarrassing and no doubt about it.
 

[Sweetheart 8,458]

 

Peter Lawwell's Celtic legacy of domestic dominance won't save him from the lashes after an astonishing downfall - Keith Jackson

The Parkhead chief has watched the club's empire crumble around him this season amid one disaster after another on and off the pitch.

Less than two weeks into January it already feels as if 2020 was just some woeful warm-up act where Celtic’s cataclysmic collapse is concerned.

When the year from hell finally ended Neil Lennon was still clinging on to his position on the back of a run of wins throughout December.

He was looking forward to the chance to cut the gap at the top of the table to just 13 points.

Potentially, at least, it could have been down to four.

Now here they are, just 11 days and two games into 2021, marooned 21 points behind Rangers and wading through the wreckage of a spectacular, self-inflicted decline, with the worst of the carnage probably still to come.

The baying mob will be back in the car park soon enough demanding Lennon’s head once more but that’s unlikely to be enough to placate them now they’ve set their sights on a routing of the boardroom.

Celtic’s banner-daubing hardcore are now demanding regime change which is why the club’s domineering chief executive is being cruelly depicted as Comical Pete.

The levels of vitriol here are ridiculously overcharged. In truth, Lawwell has been quite masterful in overseeing two decades of historic success and domestic dominance.

That won’t spare him any lashes now it’s all reaching an unsavoury, mean-spirited end.

Lawwell won’t want to hear it but this quite astonishing downfall has been created by an uncharacteristic level of incompetence which arrived on the scene around the same time as coronavirus and which is hanging about every bit as stubbornly.

Lawwell has found himself locked into drowning man syndrome as the on-field empire he worked so astutely to build has crashed down around his ears. Bouncing from one botched decision to the next, Lawwell’s legacy has been in danger of being obliterated in these past few error-strewn months, culminating in the disastrous idea of a warm-weather training camp in Dubai.

he miscalculation to go globe-trotting into the teeth of a pandemic saw Lennon locked up at home on Monday night, self isolating along with 13 first- team players as Hibs hammered yet another nail into the coffin of 10 in a row.

Celtic got exactly what they deserved from Jack Ross and his team, not least because of the unedifying levels of arrogance which were being displayed in the build-up to a 1-1 draw which has effectively expedited the inevitable.

In the height of their disarray this is a club which appears to have been blinded by denial.

They are seemingly unable or unwilling to admit that those in charge of making the big decisions are almost entirely to blame for the almighty mess in which they now find themselves. On Monday afternoon, as the empire was crumbling around his ears, Lawwell signed off on a club statement which took the breath away in terms of its lack of self-awareness.

While it was factually correct for them to say Christopher Jullien could have contracted the virus had he stayed put in Scotland it was also wilfully missing the point.

Jullien didn’t stay in Scotland. He travelled for a sunshine break in Dubau even though he’s months away from being fit enough to do any training.

He tested positive upon his return, causing all manner of chaos.

If that was not bad enough, Celtic also rejected a perfectly reasonable request from Hibs to have their players tested again before kick-off.

By doing so, they gave up whatever was left of their moral high ground.

Gavin Strachan was left holding the fort and placed in charge of conducting a head count ahead of the visit of Hibs with Mikey Johnston and Cameron Harper leading the line. What he needed was Odsonne Edouard. What he got was odds and ends.

Now he has to patch them up and send them back out to face high- flying Livingston this weekend knowing the end of days is probably just around the corner.

Celtic’s unravelling really has been a remarkable story.

A perfect storm which began when Covid-19 turned the planet upside down, back when Lawwell and Lennon were on top of the world.

The consequences of this unforeseen health crisis quickly burned through the club’s huge cash reserves and against a panic-fuelled backdrop, so the bad decision-making began.

The dramatic resurgence of Rangers under Steven Gerrard has played a part too.

It did not go unnoticed Gerrard conducted his pre and post-match media interviews wearing a face mask at Pittodrie, leading some observers to conclude this was a deliberate dig at his rivals.

While Lennon was snapped pinting it up by the poolside, here was Gerrard doubling down on the precautions taken on the other side of the city.

That may or may not have been his motivation.

It seems more in keeping with his standards that Gerrard was probably tightening up on the levels of professionalism which will be required from here on in to complete the job which he and Rangers have started so impressively.

Having come so close to winning a title during his playing days at Liverpool, he will not countenance any such missteps now he’s on the verge of landing one as a manager.

In coaching school they call it controlling the controllables which is exactly how Lawwell went about plotting Celtic’s decades of dominance.

Lawwell can do no more than cross his fingers and hope for a sudden Rangers collapse.

That he no longer has any control over his own destiny will eat him up inside almost as much as the growing realisation Gerrard’s mask doesn’t look like slipping any time soon.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/peter-lawwells-celtic-legacy-domestic-23307909

[Sweetheart 8,458]

Covid: Clawback cash call over football clubs who break virus rules

By Greg Russell

GRANTS and loans given to help football clubs during the pandemic should be repaid by those who breach Covid-19 regulations, according to supporters.

Scottish Football Fans for Independence will meet Supporters Direct Scotland later and are likely to call for Scottish Government intervention.

It comes as the row rumbles on about Celtic’s training trip to Dubai that resulted in one positive Covid-19 test and 16 of the squad self-isolating.

The fallout from the controversy has seen the Scottish Government, Scottish FA and SPFL all face criticism for not taking a stronger lead, and more questions about aid allocations to lower league clubs.

Queen of the South were also forced to apologise to angry fans for breaching regulations when they allowed George Galloway and his family to attend a home game.

Fans have written to MSPs, the Scottish Government and football agencies to find out who is to blame for measures that are “punishing the guilty” while sanctioning the innocent.

“The grants and loans to the clubs overtly breaching Covid regulations must now be revoked and repaid,” said Chick Hosie, of the indy fans’ group.

“Why should the guilty get rewarded and their fixtures allowed to continue and the likes of Partick Thistle and Falkirk are again abused and treated with contempt?”

Hosie said fans want to know how the levels of grants were decided and what decision-making processes were utilised; to whom was the process delegated; how the funding will be monitored; and what type of reporting is required on how the recipient clubs spend the cash.

Founder of the Scottish Football Supporters Association, Paul Goodwin, added: “We likewise have been asking these questions and not getting many answers.

“Given that it is taxpayers’ money, it is unacceptable.”

https://www.thenational.scot/sport/19006355.covid-clawback-cash-call-football-clubs-break-virus-rules/

[KingKirk 25,633]

17 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:

 

Peter Lawwell's Celtic legacy of domestic dominance won't save him from the lashes after an astonishing downfall - Keith Jackson

The Parkhead chief has watched the club's empire crumble around him this season amid one disaster after another on and off the pitch.

Less than two weeks into January it already feels as if 2020 was just some woeful warm-up act where Celtic’s cataclysmic collapse is concerned.

When the year from hell finally ended Neil Lennon was still clinging on to his position on the back of a run of wins throughout December.

He was looking forward to the chance to cut the gap at the top of the table to just 13 points.

Potentially, at least, it could have been down to four.

Now here they are, just 11 days and two games into 2021, marooned 21 points behind Rangers and wading through the wreckage of a spectacular, self-inflicted decline, with the worst of the carnage probably still to come.

The baying mob will be back in the car park soon enough demanding Lennon’s head once more but that’s unlikely to be enough to placate them now they’ve set their sights on a routing of the boardroom.

Celtic’s banner-daubing hardcore are now demanding regime change which is why the club’s domineering chief executive is being cruelly depicted as Comical Pete.

The levels of vitriol here are ridiculously overcharged. In truth, Lawwell has been quite masterful in overseeing two decades of historic success and domestic dominance.

That won’t spare him any lashes now it’s all reaching an unsavoury, mean-spirited end.

Lawwell won’t want to hear it but this quite astonishing downfall has been created by an uncharacteristic level of incompetence which arrived on the scene around the same time as coronavirus and which is hanging about every bit as stubbornly.

Lawwell has found himself locked into drowning man syndrome as the on-field empire he worked so astutely to build has crashed down around his ears. Bouncing from one botched decision to the next, Lawwell’s legacy has been in danger of being obliterated in these past few error-strewn months, culminating in the disastrous idea of a warm-weather training camp in Dubai.

he miscalculation to go globe-trotting into the teeth of a pandemic saw Lennon locked up at home on Monday night, self isolating along with 13 first- team players as Hibs hammered yet another nail into the coffin of 10 in a row.

Celtic got exactly what they deserved from Jack Ross and his team, not least because of the unedifying levels of arrogance which were being displayed in the build-up to a 1-1 draw which has effectively expedited the inevitable.

In the height of their disarray this is a club which appears to have been blinded by denial.

They are seemingly unable or unwilling to admit that those in charge of making the big decisions are almost entirely to blame for the almighty mess in which they now find themselves. On Monday afternoon, as the empire was crumbling around his ears, Lawwell signed off on a club statement which took the breath away in terms of its lack of self-awareness.

While it was factually correct for them to say Christopher Jullien could have contracted the virus had he stayed put in Scotland it was also wilfully missing the point.

Jullien didn’t stay in Scotland. He travelled for a sunshine break in Dubau even though he’s months away from being fit enough to do any training.

He tested positive upon his return, causing all manner of chaos.

If that was not bad enough, Celtic also rejected a perfectly reasonable request from Hibs to have their players tested again before kick-off.

By doing so, they gave up whatever was left of their moral high ground.

Gavin Strachan was left holding the fort and placed in charge of conducting a head count ahead of the visit of Hibs with Mikey Johnston and Cameron Harper leading the line. What he needed was Odsonne Edouard. What he got was odds and ends.

Now he has to patch them up and send them back out to face high- flying Livingston this weekend knowing the end of days is probably just around the corner.

Celtic’s unravelling really has been a remarkable story.

A perfect storm which began when Covid-19 turned the planet upside down, back when Lawwell and Lennon were on top of the world.

The consequences of this unforeseen health crisis quickly burned through the club’s huge cash reserves and against a panic-fuelled backdrop, so the bad decision-making began.

The dramatic resurgence of Rangers under Steven Gerrard has played a part too.

It did not go unnoticed Gerrard conducted his pre and post-match media interviews wearing a face mask at Pittodrie, leading some observers to conclude this was a deliberate dig at his rivals.

While Lennon was snapped pinting it up by the poolside, here was Gerrard doubling down on the precautions taken on the other side of the city.

That may or may not have been his motivation.

It seems more in keeping with his standards that Gerrard was probably tightening up on the levels of professionalism which will be required from here on in to complete the job which he and Rangers have started so impressively.

Having come so close to winning a title during his playing days at Liverpool, he will not countenance any such missteps now he’s on the verge of landing one as a manager.

In coaching school they call it controlling the controllables which is exactly how Lawwell went about plotting Celtic’s decades of dominance.

Lawwell can do no more than cross his fingers and hope for a sudden Rangers collapse.

That he no longer has any control over his own destiny will eat him up inside almost as much as the growing realisation Gerrard’s mask doesn’t look like slipping any time soon.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/peter-lawwells-celtic-legacy-domestic-23307909

😂😂😂😂 Nae bother Keith 

[Griffin Peterson 348]

If it turns out they have more positive cases I expect to see their result v Hibs changed to 0-3 defeat and forced to play the the Livi matches with the dregs of their first team squad and youths.

I would also expect an enquiry and tough punishment, such as the 7 games Jones and Edmundson got. 

[ger4life_1872 29,469]

Jackson still trying to peddle the huge cash reserves nonsense