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34 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

Just seen Lennon on the news there talking about how hard done by celtic have been in getting fined For Bolignoli’s actions. They always find a way to make themselves the victim’s don’t they?

Well their safe systems allowed a player to leave the country for a number of days that’s still open to question and their super duper system didn’t manage to get the message to their employee that if you go to Spain and a number of other countries then you need to quarantine.

Of course they need punished ,typical wee fenian fanny 

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Shakhtar,pass pass , no  end product, Inter soak it up and pounce, Hargeaves made a a good point , let Inter have the ball and draw them out, maybe  a tactic we should  consider  against the hammer throwers and go with the same system 3-5-2.

Kick them Out. 

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1 hour ago, Lets go 55 said:

Shakhtar,pass pass , no  end product, Inter soak it up and pounce, Hargeaves made a a good point , let Inter have the ball and draw them out, maybe  a tactic we should  consider  against the hammer throwers and go with the same system 3-5-2.

Kick them Out. 

They would just pass it about at the back, yesterday was the worst example iv saw yet of a team not trying to win the game, the only shot on target was from their own half, 

Tactics for me don't come into play with that, it's a case of plugging away and looking for mistakes and openings, heard plenty about a dynamic creative midfielder but even that wouldn't be a game changer, 

Saw a goal kick from livvy where there were 14 players in a section waiting for the kick, it was like a rugby line out, no wonder that useless prick Doncaster can't get a decent TV deal, no neutral would watch that attempt at football fir any more than 10 mins 

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1 hour ago, dummiesoot said:

Allowing these plastic pitches at all and also allowing teams not to water them to create an even more unnatural surface is a farce imo.

Plus remove the nets behind their goal in the 2nd half whilst removing the spare balls dotted around the pitch to waste as much time as possible. As cringeworthy a club as we have who don’t deserve any televised coverage as they symbolise all that is dragging the Scottish game in to oblivion...

Edir. Apologies, wrong thread, the plastic pitch comment set me off in to autopilot re Livingston, please move. Thanks...

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Latest from The Times today 18th August 2020.

celtic chief Fergus McCann hailed celtic Boys Club before reporting abuse

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/celtic-chief-fergus-mccann-hailed-celtic-boys-club-before-reporting-abuse-brcjwqgt2

Fergus McCann declared that celtic Boys Club was the “basis of the entire celtic pyramid” days before calling in the police to investigate claims of sexual abuse, The Times can disclose.

The comments by Mr McCann, who was celtic FC’s managing director, further undermine the club’s refusal to accept responsibility for systemic sexual misconduct at its feeder club.

Legal papers were lodged in June on behalf of an abuse survivor who is seeking damages from the Parkhead club, with a test case expected to be heard at the Court of Session within months.

celtic FC is strongly contesting the claims, insisting that the boys’ club was an entirely separate entity with which it had “historic connections”.

However, its stance appears to have been contradicted by the emergence of more evidence, including a statement from the club’s board of directors that the feeder club was “very much part of the celtic family”.

On April 3, 1996, celtic View, the official club magazine, reported on the 29th celtic Boys Club AGM. It stated: “The most telling words came from managing director Fergus McCann. He told the boys’ club: ‘You are the basis of the entire celtic pyramid’. ”

Three days later Strathclyde police confirmed that they had been called in by Mr McCann, a Scottish-Canadian multimillionaire businessman, to investigate “allegations of sexual abuse of young players at celtic FC”.

It led to the arrest of Jim Torbett, 73, the founder of celtic Boys Club, who was jailed in 1998 for molesting players, including the future Scotland striker Alan Brazil, between 1967 and 1974. Torbett was jailed for a further six years in 2018 for sexually abusing boys between August 1986 and August 1994.

In June The Times revealed that celtic FC hired Torbett to run its chain of official merchandise shops in the early 1990s. His company, The Trophy Centre, had a lucrative and long-running contract with the club.

Another celtic View report from 1989 stated that Jack McGinn, then celtic FC chairman, had pledged his “continuing support for the boys’ club”.

It added that Kevin Kelly, a celtic FC director, “highlighted recent cases in which the celtic chairman had been actively involved in the promotion and the good of the celtic Boys Club. He also stated that the board of directors considered the boys’ club very much a part of the celtic family”. However, when questioned by The Times Mr McGinn insisted the celtic Boys Club was a “separate autonomous body”.

In August 1994 celtic View carried a photograph of Jimmy Savile collecting a £14,000 charity cheque raised by the sale of the turf at Parkhead before a game with Dundee United.

Savile, the DJ who was publicly recognised as a paedophile after his death in 2011, had been described as a “staunch celtic supporter”. He also  did a lap of honour when the team took on Aberdeen in September 1987.

A year earlier celtic FC had started an internal investigation after serious concerns were raised about the welfare of young players. It cleared the coaching staff and described the claims, raised by young players and their parents, as “scurrilous”, insisting they deserved to be “buried once and for all”.

celtic FC did not respond to a request for comment.

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58 minutes ago, hawkeye said:

Latest from The Times today 18th August 2020.

celtic chief Fergus McCann hailed celtic Boys Club before reporting abuse

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/celtic-chief-fergus-mccann-hailed-celtic-boys-club-before-reporting-abuse-brcjwqgt2

Fergus McCann declared that celtic Boys Club was the “basis of the entire celtic pyramid” days before calling in the police to investigate claims of sexual abuse, The Times can disclose.

The comments by Mr McCann, who was celtic FC’s managing director, further undermine the club’s refusal to accept responsibility for systemic sexual misconduct at its feeder club.

Legal papers were lodged in June on behalf of an abuse survivor who is seeking damages from the Parkhead club, with a test case expected to be heard at the Court of Session within months.

celtic FC is strongly contesting the claims, insisting that the boys’ club was an entirely separate entity with which it had “historic connections”.

However, its stance appears to have been contradicted by the emergence of more evidence, including a statement from the club’s board of directors that the feeder club was “very much part of the celtic family”.

On April 3, 1996, celtic View, the official club magazine, reported on the 29th celtic Boys Club AGM. It stated: “The most telling words came from managing director Fergus McCann. He told the boys’ club: ‘You are the basis of the entire celtic pyramid’. ”

Three days later Strathclyde police confirmed that they had been called in by Mr McCann, a Scottish-Canadian multimillionaire businessman, to investigate “allegations of sexual abuse of young players at celtic FC”.

It led to the arrest of Jim Torbett, 73, the founder of celtic Boys Club, who was jailed in 1998 for molesting players, including the future Scotland striker Alan Brazil, between 1967 and 1974. Torbett was jailed for a further six years in 2018 for sexually abusing boys between August 1986 and August 1994.

In June The Times revealed that celtic FC hired Torbett to run its chain of official merchandise shops in the early 1990s. His company, The Trophy Centre, had a lucrative and long-running contract with the club.

Another celtic View report from 1989 stated that Jack McGinn, then celtic FC chairman, had pledged his “continuing support for the boys’ club”.

It added that Kevin Kelly, a celtic FC director, “highlighted recent cases in which the celtic chairman had been actively involved in the promotion and the good of the celtic Boys Club. He also stated that the board of directors considered the boys’ club very much a part of the celtic family”. However, when questioned by The Times Mr McGinn insisted the celtic Boys Club was a “separate autonomous body”.

In August 1994 celtic View carried a photograph of Jimmy Savile collecting a £14,000 charity cheque raised by the sale of the turf at Parkhead before a game with Dundee United.

Savile, the DJ who was publicly recognised as a paedophile after his death in 2011, had been described as a “staunch celtic supporter”. He also  did a lap of honour when the team took on Aberdeen in September 1987.

A year earlier celtic FC had started an internal investigation after serious concerns were raised about the welfare of young players. It cleared the coaching staff and described the claims, raised by young players and their parents, as “scurrilous”, insisting they deserved to be “buried once and for all”.

celtic FC did not respond to a request for comment.

Another good piece from the Times. For some reason I can never copy their articles. How did you do it? 

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1 hour ago, hawkeye said:

Latest from The Times today 18th August 2020.

celtic chief Fergus McCann hailed celtic Boys Club before reporting abuse

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/celtic-chief-fergus-mccann-hailed-celtic-boys-club-before-reporting-abuse-brcjwqgt2

Fergus McCann declared that celtic Boys Club was the “basis of the entire celtic pyramid” days before calling in the police to investigate claims of sexual abuse, The Times can disclose.

The comments by Mr McCann, who was celtic FC’s managing director, further undermine the club’s refusal to accept responsibility for systemic sexual misconduct at its feeder club.

Legal papers were lodged in June on behalf of an abuse survivor who is seeking damages from the Parkhead club, with a test case expected to be heard at the Court of Session within months.

celtic FC is strongly contesting the claims, insisting that the boys’ club was an entirely separate entity with which it had “historic connections”.

However, its stance appears to have been contradicted by the emergence of more evidence, including a statement from the club’s board of directors that the feeder club was “very much part of the celtic family”.

On April 3, 1996, celtic View, the official club magazine, reported on the 29th celtic Boys Club AGM. It stated: “The most telling words came from managing director Fergus McCann. He told the boys’ club: ‘You are the basis of the entire celtic pyramid’. ”

Three days later Strathclyde police confirmed that they had been called in by Mr McCann, a Scottish-Canadian multimillionaire businessman, to investigate “allegations of sexual abuse of young players at celtic FC”.

It led to the arrest of Jim Torbett, 73, the founder of celtic Boys Club, who was jailed in 1998 for molesting players, including the future Scotland striker Alan Brazil, between 1967 and 1974. Torbett was jailed for a further six years in 2018 for sexually abusing boys between August 1986 and August 1994.

In June The Times revealed that celtic FC hired Torbett to run its chain of official merchandise shops in the early 1990s. His company, The Trophy Centre, had a lucrative and long-running contract with the club.

Another celtic View report from 1989 stated that Jack McGinn, then celtic FC chairman, had pledged his “continuing support for the boys’ club”.

It added that Kevin Kelly, a celtic FC director, “highlighted recent cases in which the celtic chairman had been actively involved in the promotion and the good of the celtic Boys Club. He also stated that the board of directors considered the boys’ club very much a part of the celtic family”. However, when questioned by The Times Mr McGinn insisted the celtic Boys Club was a “separate autonomous body”.

In August 1994 celtic View carried a photograph of Jimmy Savile collecting a £14,000 charity cheque raised by the sale of the turf at Parkhead before a game with Dundee United.

Savile, the DJ who was publicly recognised as a paedophile after his death in 2011, had been described as a “staunch celtic supporter”. He also  did a lap of honour when the team took on Aberdeen in September 1987.

A year earlier celtic FC had started an internal investigation after serious concerns were raised about the welfare of young players. It cleared the coaching staff and described the claims, raised by young players and their parents, as “scurrilous”, insisting they deserved to be “buried once and for all”.

celtic FC did not respond to a request for comment.

Another undignified silence from separate entity fc

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This is horrendous.  Clearly a paedophile ring from the very top.  I didn't know about McCann calling in the police, so well done to him.  Has anyone contacted him to ascertain why he called in the police.  Also well done to the Times for calling this out so clearly.

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On the thread on FF there are snippets almost every day from previous press articles that blow the separate entity out the water ,Don’t think it even matters anyway as there was a ruling passed a year or so ago where if a senior team benefitted from an associated boys club they had to take responsibility anyway .

The seperate entity nonsense is only dragging things out longer ,Grim when a lot of the victims originally wanted an apology not financial compensation,Some of these guys have lived with the burden of abuse for 50odd years and are wanting to get some closure 

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3 hours ago, One Jock Wallace said:

Another good piece from the Times. For some reason I can never copy their articles. How did you do it? 

Copied with gratitude from Follow Follow.

The article itself is behind a paywall.

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