Brackley Bluenose 4,478 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Just now, Swagger said: You could easy be right but it’s 4 quality centre backs to argue about Exactly mate and what a lovely headache that is to have! We’d be far better discussing that than having the option of Bitton, Ajer, Duffy and that big fanny Jullien Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,478 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 minute ago, graeme_4 said: Why do you think that is? Mate I think that harsh. There were plenty of times when Goldson looked suspect playing with various centre back partners. Rangers_no1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoastbear 1,639 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 hours ago, 6superbarry6 said: I’d like to see us bring in a cb and send Katic out on loan next season, think a full season playing week in week out would take him to next level he could then take Baloguns place in the squad, at the moment he’ll be 4th choice centre back Were we no sending Edmundson out on loan, if so Katic needs to stay where he is as one injury would leave us short, have both Helander and Balogun no been injured this season already. Who could we loan him to that he could learn more off than his three team mates, would need to be a high quality side which would likely to be able to afford to buy a promising young CB should they require to do so.? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRed 209 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Swagger said: You could easy be right but it’s 4 quality centre backs to argue about Competition works well so I'm happy with this quality, that's rare and I think, a very good situation to be in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,548 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 6 hours ago, BearInTheToon said: If it’s true he’s back already, then he is indeed an absolute machine. I’ve done my ACL twice (2nd time just last January) and despite doing as much rehab and running as I can, I’m miles away from playing football. He did his 6 months ago. Incredible. To be fair he’s a professional athlete who will have had first class treatment from the minute he got injured. That’s going to have a serious impact on his recovery. When I did my ACL it took seven months just to get a diagnosis and the height of my physio during my rehab (before I went private) was getting handed a generic sheet with a few shit exercises on it from an NHS physio. BearInTheToon, graeme_4 and G13 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 He isn't as good as the first choice 3 at the moment, but could get to their level. He is not as far behind as some think either IMO. Our defence is better this year as our system works better, it is not due purely down to Katic being out. I agree a loan would be a big benefit to him, and I would gladly see him going to an Aberdeen or the likes. I think it is still probably too early for him to be going on loan this season though. Recover and get some game time with us, then a loan for next season would be ideal. Fred H Crawford and Rangers_no1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearInTheToon 1,575 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, DBBTB said: To be fair he’s a professional athlete who will have had first class treatment from the minute he got injured. That’s going to have a serious impact on his recovery. When I did my ACL it took seven months just to get a diagnosis and the height of my physio during my rehab (before I went private) was getting handed a generic sheet with a few shit exercises on it from an NHS physio. Yeah mate, absolutely. But even for a professional athlete, his recovery is quite exceptional. Ha, I feel your pain - when I did mine first time around in 2004, it took 16 months from when I injured the knee to getting the op. In that time, I saw GPs and physios who tried to tell me it was anything from a dislocated knee cap, a bad strain or possibly just cartilage damage. Finally, after a year of waiting and lots of pushing on my part, I got a MRI scan which showed the rupture. Utter madness. 2nd time I did it, I went to see a GP, who's also a doctor at the Newcastle Falcons, which was my very first GP appointment after doing it and he confirmed within seconds what I already knew - it had gone again! BlueSuedeSambas 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Will Follow Rangers 12,892 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Inigo said: As I say, that's part of it, but if you don't have two good CBs you'll lose more goals than we have. Didn't say folk liked him because he's a nice guy. His attitude and application is exactly why folk like him, it's never been his issue. It's the other stuff. He's just not good enough based on what we've seen. Personally doubt he ever will be, but I hope he can be. Sorry mate must have been someone else. Inigo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,548 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, BearInTheToon said: Yeah mate, absolutely. But even for a professional athlete, his recovery is quite exceptional. Ha, I feel your pain - when I did mine first time around in 2004, it took 16 months from when I injured the knee to getting the op. In that time, I saw GPs and physios who tried to tell me it was anything from a dislocated knee cap, a bad strain or possibly just cartilage damage. Finally, after a year of waiting and lots of pushing on my part, I got a MRI scan which showed the rupture. Utter madness. 2nd time I did it, I went to see a GP, who's also a doctor at the Newcastle Falcons, which was my very first GP appointment after doing it and he confirmed within seconds what I already knew - it had gone again! I wasn’t taking anything away from him or what he’s been through BTW. Whether you have the best facilities available or not it takes a seriously strong mindset and a lot of hard graft to get yourself back to that level within six months. Haha honestly mate that first story is almost word for word what happened to me. Dislocated knee cap, torn cartridge, strained medial ligaments, uncommon gait when walking..the guessed are it being everything apart from the thing that I suspected it to be. I finally got referred to a specialist and he did the lachman test and diagnosed it within two minutes. The injury happened in April 2010 and I didn’t surgery until February 2011. Going through it once was bad enough, but twice must be brutal. I know a boy who’s done it three times. One knee twice and his other knee once. Grim. BearInTheToon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 9 hours ago, Brackley Bluenose said: I’ll get hammered for this no doubt but don’t really care because I think he’s class but I think POTENTIALLY Katic is our best centre back. You made a post yesterday saying he was shite😂😂😂😂 but aye he was, goldson has more than proved his worth this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Katic potentially our best centre back. Hopefully he comes back even better JCDBigBear and BigBearButt 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 4,437 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I think Katic can go on to be a great player for us but there can be no room for sentimentality. He will need to prove himself when he gets back to full fitness but if he comes back well will almost be like having a new signing. falkirkNS and JCDBigBear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,478 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, GOAT said: You made a post yesterday saying he was shite😂😂😂😂 but aye he was, goldson has more than proved his worth this season. Mate it was tongue in cheek because I was getting hammered on here for saying he was our best. Poor gag on my part to be fair Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,763 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 8 hours ago, ForeverAndEver said: Goldson and Helander are miles ahead Again I disagree. They are three different types of CB with different attributes and different weaknesses. BigBearButt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Brackley Bluenose said: Mate I think that harsh. There were plenty of times when Goldson looked suspect playing with various centre back partners. Maybe there was a reason there ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,259 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 9 hours ago, Creampuff said: Katic is a good defender but he defends too much. He’s too keen to engage in tackles or jumping for headers where a better defender wouldn’t engage and wait for a better opportunity. Think this is fair. He's sometimes the worst parts of Goldson and Balogun combined. Hopefully it can get knocked out of him, time is certainly on his side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,763 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 8 hours ago, Del said: Based on what? You only need to look at our record in the biggest games, games that for the most part Gerrard doesnt select Katic. I struggle to think of any games where has been very good defensively, but that doesnt mean he had a bad game, so I cant really argue that at the moment, but cant seriously think that Katic is as good on the ball as Goldson and Helander? Goldson is pretty good at distribution on long balls but he gives me the fear on short forward passes. Helander I don't rate at passing at all and I don't think he is particularly comfortable at it either as he tends to pass along the back leaving forward passes to others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,763 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 7 hours ago, graeme_4 said: Why do you think that is? Our midfield cover has been better this season . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,563 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 I like Katic and he has a lot of potential. He is prone to mistakes, more so than the three ahead of him currently, but he has time on his side to learn to read the game much better. His physique, his attitude and his talent are evident. He will benefit from training with the team mates he has around him but he would benefit more from games and I think the shout for him to go on loan is a good one. Perhaps English Championship. He is definitely not shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBearButt 3,566 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Katic is an absolute monster of a guy. Disagree entirely with sending him on loan as it would need to be to a team who plays the exact same system as us and he is imo good enough to be challenging for a first team spot. theredhandofNewcastle and ForeverInBlue 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Big Katic will be back smashing cunts and @ForeverAndEverwill be crying into his tub of KFC gravy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,939 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Sket said: Big Katic will be back smashing cunts and @ForeverAndEverwill be crying into his tub of KFC gravy. Smash you n your pink trainers anymore a your nonsense gay boy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverInBlue 31 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Who's the 1st choice pairing then? Goldson and... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,296 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, ForeverAndEver said: Smash you n your pink trainers anymore a your nonsense gay boy Let’s get ready to rumble!!!!! 😂 ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heshootshescores 1,904 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Many great defensive partnerships over the years were built on a big centre half who will win everything in the air alongside a more measured playmaker. Katic looks like he could be the ball winner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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