Dennis Reynolds 1,329 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Getstiffed said: For 7 million quid he shouldn't be third. And he shouldn't be behind a 300 grand RB. Based on that criteria Dado Prso should never have been Rangers best player in 04/05 yet comfortably was, Barry Ferguson should never have been player in 02/03 yet was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,940 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Dennis Reynolds said: Despite him being our third highest contributor to goals... the facts you want to lean on here are failing you miserably. Doesn't score on a regular basis - fact, 3 in 28 shows that. Assists - 8 in 33 from what I seen, semi regular I suppose. Doesn't perform on a regular basis - fact. He had a ridiculously good start to the season, nobody has denied that, from there he's been pish. £7 million to be on the same goals as Martin Boyle, and Greg Kiltie, and less than Chris Burke. You saying he's one of our top goalscorers doesn't make it look more impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 13,977 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 48 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: I mean, it's not exactly great, but it's a completely different era. Goals was just one part of the argument. Yeah, different era and goals are just a part of it. Doubt anyone took a note of assists back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds 1,329 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Doesn't score on a regular basis - fact, 3 in 28 shows that. Assists - 8 in 33 from what I seen, semi regular I suppose. Doesn't perform on a regular basis - fact. He had a ridiculously good start to the season, nobody has denied that, from there he's been pish. £7 million to be on the same goals as Martin Boyle, and Greg Kiltie, and less than Chris Burke. You saying he's one of our top goalscorers doesn't make it look more impressive. Fair play, it is a self imposed criteria you have imposed on the player though rather than one which the guy who will coach us to a league win has decided is applicable, tend to take one of those things more serious than the other. When the goals and assists are being used as a barometer it does only seem logical to use what others are doing as a comparison...even compared to other Rangers sides of the past Kents numbers are about comparable/better than what would be expected of a player asked to do the role he is. There has rarely been a mythical 15 goal/15 assist winger player for us. Neil McCann, which is about are far back as you need to go to find someone who offered something of substance from the left wasn't a free scoring rampant scorer from wide in the league nor even Cannigia who played in a formation far closer to a front 3. It rarely happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc holliday 1,653 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Kent is our mostly heavily man marked player....Tav is getting close mind you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,142 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, Dennis Reynolds said: This is despite him being one of our top scorers, seconds highest in assists and a mainstay in a side who could feasibly break the points record in the league they play in. James Tavernier - 17 Kemar Roofe - 12 Alfredo Morelos - 10 Scott Arfield - 7 Connor Goldson - 7 Ryan Kent - 6 Cedric Itten - 5 Joe Aribo - 4 Jermaine Defoe - 4 Ianis Hagi - 4 Brandon Barker - 2 Borna Barisic - 2 Glen Kamara - 2 Filip Helander - 1 Jordan Jones - 1 Calvin Bassey - 1 Steven Davis - 1 // Assists // James Tavernier - 14 Ianis Hagi - 11 Borna Barisic - 11 Ryan Kent - 10 Scott Arfield - 6 Alfredo Morelos - 5 if you’re going to try and be a smart cunt then probably best to get your facts right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbroxybear 660 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 If Leeds still want him and they are still willing to pay £15-18 Million we should bite there hand off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausagetrunks 5,987 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, djbroxybear said: If Leeds still want him and they are still willing to pay £15-18 Million we should bite there hand off. no one will be away in jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,498 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 People are only defending him because he put Brown on his arse with a swipe at thin air. Prove me wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds 1,329 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: James Tavernier - 17 Kemar Roofe - 12 Alfredo Morelos - 10 Scott Arfield - 7 Connor Goldson - 7 Ryan Kent - 6 Cedric Itten - 5 Joe Aribo - 4 Jermaine Defoe - 4 Ianis Hagi - 4 Brandon Barker - 2 Borna Barisic - 2 Glen Kamara - 2 Filip Helander - 1 Jordan Jones - 1 Calvin Bassey - 1 Steven Davis - 1 // Assists // James Tavernier - 14 Ianis Hagi - 11 Borna Barisic - 11 Ryan Kent - 10 Scott Arfield - 6 Alfredo Morelos - 5 if you’re going to try and be a smart cunt then probably best to get your facts right. In the league, he is one of our top scorers and second in assists, something Forever and Ever clearly got given his meniton of the likes of Boyle and Burke. Overall // Total Contributions // James Tavernier - 31 Kemar Roofe - 17 Ryan Kent - 16 I was actually being kind just making mention of the league, his overall contribution is excellent numbers, cheers for only further making my point - Kent contributes a shit load to us when simply looking at "numbers" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 21 minutes ago, Dennis Reynolds said: Based on that criteria Dado Prso should never have been Rangers best player in 04/05 yet comfortably was, Barry Ferguson should never have been player in 02/03 yet was. Was a 300 grand defender our performing either of them? /Discussion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds 1,329 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: People are only defending him because he put Brown on his arse with a swipe at thin air. Prove me wrong. Still speaking about that is a bit weird.. He is about to be a key figure in our first league win for fucking years, most Rangers fans would leave their wifes for most of this squad.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds 1,329 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Getstiffed said: Was a 300 grand defender our performing either of them? /Discussion 100% the 300k defender has been outstanding, your point is at a loss to me here though. You seem to be implying no player can ever get better or outperform their transfer fee, that is daft as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,498 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Dennis Reynolds said: Still speaking about that is a bit weird.. He is about to be a key figure in our first league win for fucking years, most Rangers fans would leave their wifes for most of this squad.. A key figure yet has contributed the grand total of fuck all for months... Has he been worth the £7m in your opinion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds 1,329 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, BridgeIsBlue said: A key figure yet has contributed the grand total of fuck all for months... Has he been worth the £7m in your opinion? We played Aberdeen last week mate, you maybe missed it by the sounds of that post? Worth 7 million? Aye sure, he is a key tactical component in a Rangers team that have raked in millions in Europe, are going to win the league which was the main objective. I reckon Gerrard and the board will see it as money well spent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,103 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: People are only defending him because he put Brown on his arse with a swipe at thin air. Prove me wrong. I dunno mate he’s a very exciting player to watch on his day and endeared himself to the support pretty early on since arriving. Everyone knows how good he can be which is why it’s so frustrating. I’m not disagreeing with you or anyone else about his form not living up to his value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,031 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 32 minutes ago, Getstiffed said: For 7 million quid he shouldn't be third. And he shouldn't be behind a 300 grand RB. Let’s not kid ourselves as we all know it was the English to Scottish conversion rate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,031 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: People are only defending him because he put Brown on his arse with a swipe at thin air. Prove me wrong. done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 33,996 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: A key figure yet has contributed the grand total of fuck all for months... Has he been worth the £7m in your opinion? Two very good assists against Aberdeen last week. Don’t need to lie / exaggerate to make the point. He hasn’t been good enough and needs to pull his socks up (in an attacking sense). Works his baws off for the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,031 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: A key figure yet has contributed the grand total of fuck all for months... Has he been worth the £7m in your opinion? I need to thank you personally for paying all of the £7m out your on pocket 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Fathers Scarf 1,144 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, sausagetrunks said: no one will be away in jan. Did Gerrard in a recent interview not say that certain players may move in January? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,498 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, Dennis Reynolds said: We played Aberdeen last week mate, you maybe missed it by the sounds of that post? Worth 7 million? Aye sure, he is a key tactical component in a Rangers team that have raked in millions in Europe, are going to win the league which was the main objective. I reckon Gerrard and the board will see it as money well spent. 7 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: done 6 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Two very good assists against Aberdeen last week. Don’t need to lie / exaggerate to make the point. He hasn’t been good enough and needs to pull his socks up (in an attacking sense). Works his baws off for the team. 5 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: I need to thank you personally for paying all of the £7m out your on pocket 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Edouard rightly gets the piss taken out of him because he's nowhere near worth the £9m they paid for him, yet Kent gets away with it just because he plays for us? Doesn't work that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds 1,329 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Edouard rightly gets the piss taken out of him because he's nowhere near worth the £9m they paid for him, yet Kent gets away with it just because he plays for us? Doesn't work that way. Kent has fundamentally turned out to be a calculated and measured move by Rangers, in the way Eduard HAD been for celtic. They had loaned Eduard, knew what they had, and had learned the player. If celtic didn't make a cunt of it/we had been so sublime, thanks to players like Kent, they would have got a wedge for him with titles in the bag. Kent @7 million or Klimala, Tayor, Bolingoli Barkas and Ajeiti at 17.7 million? Rangers worked their way into that Kent deal thanks to smart moves in the market. You get in guys like Kamara, Davis and McGregor for 500k fees paid in total you earn the right to splash your cash on quality you know and want like a Kent. That collective of Rangers class mentioned cost 10 MILLION less than that collective of celtic shite, gambles and punts mentioned above... the calculated move to go all in on Kent has worked, the half arsed identification of players in the 4 million range for them hasn't. It will be our title, and our wedge of cash in return for Kent. He will pay his own fee when he leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,498 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Dennis Reynolds said: Kent has fundamentally turned out to be a calculated gamble for Rangers, in the way Eduard HAD been for celtic. Kent @7 million or Klimala, Tayor, Bolingoli Barkas and Ajeiti at 17.7 million? Rangers worked their way into that Kent deal thanks to smart moves in the market. You get in guys like Kamara, Davis and McGregor for 500k you earn the right to splash your cash on quality like a Kent, that collective of Rangers class mentioned cost 10 MILLION less than that collective of celtic shite mentioned above... the calculated move to go all in on Kent has worked. £7m for 14 goals in 64 appearances. Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds 1,329 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, BridgeIsBlue said: £7m for 14 goals in 64 appearances. Pathetic. It's always always been about winning the league when it comes to the signing of a player like Kent at that fee.... the league table says hello. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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