They Gnu 11,553 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, five stars said: Wright looked decent when he came on. Good to have another option. Definitely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRB_72 3,928 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, They Gnu said: There’s no way back for Kent with some on here. 2021s Tav. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron 2,429 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, They Gnu said: He simply has to beat his man Taking too many touches as well. He’ll come good again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 We are a much better team than we showed today, or indeed in most matches since Christmas. Time to get back to fighting for every ball, the amount of 2 nd balls won by Hamilton was embarrassing today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, SIRB_72 said: 2021s Tav. Rangers Fans need a whipping boy, I remember when it was Ian Ferguson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said: Taking too many touches as well. He’ll come good again. When things don’t come off for him he starts taking the easy square ball option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,117 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, SIRB_72 said: Kent misses one chance and what about the 4/5 chances we gave away. What about the zero we created apart from that? I take your point he should have done better with that and I wont ignore the glaring errors in his game just now but if we're going on chances missed and chances taken we, as a team, were well off it today! I stand by my point, he wasn't the issue today! He’s been the issue for months now IMO. If his end product was even 50% better we’d have won games by more, either by goals scored by him or assists laid on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa6995 3,620 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, They Gnu said: When things don’t come off for him he starts taking the easy square ball option. Some of our play today was as if the ball was square. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRB_72 3,928 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, SPWF said: He’s been the issue for months now IMO. If his end product was even 50% better we’d have won games by more, either by goals scored by him or assists laid on. I can't disagree with that and amazingly he's still our co-3rd biggest contributer of goals in the league behind Tav, Hagi and beside Roofe. So if he does improve those we bits of his game imagine the extra goals he will get! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,264 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Could be argued he's hiding from responsibility by picking the easy option and hoping someone else takes the risk, thats what i like about hagi and reason id start him over Kent or aribo, he may not have a high pass completion like the rest, but he's more attack minded and tried risky stuff which is unexpected and can open teams up His goal last week, how often do other get in his position and instead take the easy option and lay it off, or try a one two in a crowded area, Shirking responsibility isn't the same as hiding on the park. He doesn't hide, he always tries to get on the ball. I dont think he does shirk responsibility either. I just think much of his play is really poor at times, be it in the choices he makes, things he sees/ doesn't see, the execution of his play etc. His finishing can be dreadful as well. I'd have Hagi in my team before the other 2 too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,940 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Whipping boy patter’s a load of pish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,383 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, ForeverAndEver said: Whipping boy patter’s a load of pish How’s pepe getting on at Arsenal mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,940 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, born a blue nose said: How’s pepe getting on at Arsenal mate? Been decent recently tbf, still shite lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,359 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Shirking responsibility isn't the same as hiding on the park. He doesn't hide, he always tries to get on the ball. I dont think he does shirk responsibility either. I just think much of his play is really poor at times, be it in the choices he makes, things he sees/ doesn't see, the execution of his play etc. His finishing can be dreadful as well. I'd have Hagi in my team before the other 2 too. Agreed, either way kent shouldn't be in the team for either reason, yet continues to get 90mins, Killie at home id give wright a chance with hagi in the middle and hopefully arfield, if not then either kent or aribo will need to play but none of them deserve it Dunno if davis will be required for killie at ibrox, possibly go for jack abd kamara as the sitting two, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,117 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Case in point of how useless his end product is. At one point today he was racing through the middle, one on one with a defender, and instead of trying to beat him, or drag him away to create space for someone else. He stopped dead and passed it out the wing. Killed the attack stone dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,294 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Kent wasn't at it today but that wasn't where our issues were. SG tinkered with the midfield far too much and it cost us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,024 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 3 hours ago, esquire8 said: We are robbing a team if they pay over £10m for him. Robbing them blind. Don't you just love our fans bashing our own....if kent moves for 10million or above we are merely looking after our own business.....the way you talk you would rather give him away for fuck all....just aslong as we don't rob anycunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,031 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 51 minutes ago, SIRB_72 said: Kent misses one chance and what about the 4/5 chances we gave away. What about the zero we created apart from that? I take your point he should have done better with that and I wont ignore the glaring errors in his game just now but if we're going on chances missed and chances taken we, as a team, were well off it today! I stand by my point, he wasn't the issue today! He’s always the issue for some. The majority of the starting outfield players were poor but it doesn’t stop the pile on re Kent. It’s pretty pathetic really and it’s as if some want him to fail so they can say ‘I told you so’. Thankfully the management team and players know his worth rather than these online experts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,031 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, kanjo said: Kent wasn't at it today but that wasn't where our issues were. SG tinkered with the midfield far too much and it cost us. This all day long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,359 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 23 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: He’s always the issue for some. The majority of the starting outfield players were poor but it doesn’t stop the pile on re Kent. It’s pretty pathetic really and it’s as if some want him to fail so they can say ‘I told you so’. Thankfully the management team and players know his worth rather than these online experts. 22 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: This all day long We went away to the bottom of the table team and managed two shots on target out of 15, as part of a front 4 and one who never gets dropped for bad form, kent will take a lot of criticism because its deserved, if an aribo thread was near the top people would rightly head into that as well, both were honking today and offered little to no support for itten up front Yes we gave up chances, hamilton forced keeper into numerous saves, however we had twice as much of the ball as they did, so for our attacking players to create way less clear cut chances it shows they are woefully off form and needs changed up Hell our goal was a defensive mid playing in the fullback to force the own goal, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,031 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: We went away to the bottom of the table team and managed two shots on target out of 15, as part of a front 4 and one who never gets dropped for bad form, kent will take a lot of criticism because its deserved, if an aribo thread was near the top people would rightly head into that as well, both were honking today and offered little to no support for itten up front Yes we gave up chances, hamilton forced keeper into numerous saves, however we had twice as much of the ball as they did, so for our attacking players to create way less clear cut chances it shows they are woefully off form and needs changed up Hell our goal was a defensive mid playing in the fullback to force the own goal, No outfield players got pass marks especially the mid as most of the game there was a lack of service but it’s the instant Kent pile on i have issues with. He was poor but no worse or better than anyone else. I blame many things for today from crucial players suspended at the business end of the season, the management with the starting line up, no proper game management at the end when we were chasing a 2nd goal, Tav being up the park, Davis not bringing the guy down, the weather, the park and lastly all the paid professionals underestimating Hamilton and the fight in their dog. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,359 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: No outfield players got pass marks especially the mid as most of the game there was a lack of service but it’s the instant Kent pile on i have issues with. He was poor but no worse or better than anyone else. I blame many things for today from crucial players suspended at the business end of the season, the management with the starting line up, no proper game management at the end when we were chasing a 2nd goal, Tav being up the park, Davis not bringing the guy down, the weather, the park and lastly all the paid professionals underestimating Hamilton and the fight in their dog. As i said, kent will get it tight because a 7mill quid player is once again failing to turn up when we need him most, and what he's given us this season he's not worth anywhere what we paid for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRB_72 3,928 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Bad Robot said: He’s always the issue for some. The majority of the starting outfield players were poor but it doesn’t stop the pile on re Kent. It’s pretty pathetic really and it’s as if some want him to fail so they can say ‘I told you so’. Thankfully the management team and players know his worth rather than these online experts. That's it we both know he hasn't been great but some act like he is the sole issue for us not playing well or dropping points when it just isn't true. He's one of our most productive players throughout the season and contributes in one in five goals as well as only being below only Tav and Hagi on the combined goals and assists in the league. Since the turn of the year he's been involved in one in four of our goals which is only behind Barisic (if you count today's own goal as an assist) and Morelos in 2021. Change the shape and we'll see more from everyone, not just Ryan Kent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,359 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, SIRB_72 said: That's it we both know he hasn't been great but some act like he is the sole issue for us not playing well or dropping points when it just isn't true. He's one of our most productive players throughout the season and contributes in one in five goals as well as only being below only Tav and Hagi on the combined goals and assists in the league. Since the turn of the year he's been involved in one in four of our goals which is only behind Barisic (if you count today's own goal as an assist) and Morelos in 2021. Change the shape and we'll see more from everyone, not just Ryan Kent. We have changed the shape, kent is still miles off the pace, and people have a right to vent, you said it yourself, he's below hagi for goals and assists combined, yet hagi has had way way less game time, but guess who was subbed today and who got the full 90 again Oh and hagi was half the price and has been here less time Kent needs droppes big time, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRB_72 3,928 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: We have changed the shape, kent is still miles off the pace, and people have a right to vent, you said it yourself, he's below hagi for goals and assists combined, yet hagi has had way way less game time, but guess who was subbed today and who got the full 90 again Oh and hagi was half the price and has been here less time Kent needs droppes big time, It's a forum of course people have the right to vent as do I when I think the reaction Kent gets compared to others, especially today, is wrong imo. Aye Hagi is the one example and he's showing up everyone in the team apart from Tav. I wouldn't have taken Hagi off today nor do I think Kent deserves to go off more than Aribo. For me the change in the second half was a striker for a deeper midfielder rather than a like for like change like Roofe for Itten or Wright for Hagi. The weird 442 that we've not played since the first half against celtic is the change in shape we needed. I think the manager was the biggest issue today and his decision making with Hagi today and recently has been poor. I think that goes hand in hand with our recent performances. I think we're better off with Hagi and Kent in the same team than not. I'm not against Kent coming out on Saturday as long as it's a different shape but long term he's going to be in there and we're going to be better with him than without. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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