them

[MVRanger 2,622]

[Malkster 4,878]

3 hours ago, Canabear said:

of course he did...jeezus wept!

[graeme_4 34,427]

5 hours ago, Lilac 3rd Kit said:

Sorry explain that? How is exactly is that my interpretation? 

This hysteria from the Stevie G fanboys came simply because I questioned whether one trophy in nine for a Rangers manager is “mind blowing”. I’d personally say no but it’s clear by the level of emotion from yourself in particular, that minds truly have been blown 😂

It’s more like one trophy in 3-6. Look at the starting point and gulf in budgets. Closing the gap and stabilising us was the target in the first year. Wasn’t really a season a trophy was expected. 

[superallysbears 7,575]

3 hours ago, Canabear said:

Honestly what is it with fenian bastards 😂 it's always the greatest this and the greatest that ffs, this cunt really is a fucking 🚑🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃

[Dickie 12,905]

6 hours ago, Lilac 3rd Kit said:

Sorry explain that? How is exactly is that my interpretation? 

This hysteria from the Stevie G fanboys came simply because I questioned whether one trophy in nine for a Rangers manager is “mind blowing”. I’d personally say no but it’s clear by the level of emotion from yourself in particular, that minds truly have been blown 😂

Are you for fucking real. I thought this was going to be a genuine exchange of views but “fanboys” and “mind blowing “ makes you sound like some kerrydale lunatic.

[roboscot 1,176]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/10/celtic-gamble-on-ange-postecoglou-with-major-overhaul-needed-to-challenge-Rangers

 

celtic gamble on Postecoglou with overhaul needed to challenge Rangers

After finishing last season rudderless celtic’s decision-making has again been questioned after their latest appointment

Ewan Murray6h ago

Ange Postecoglou will not have much time to implement his philosophy at celtic. Photograph: Xinhua/Shutterstock

@mrewanmurray

Fri 11 Jun 2021 04.00 AEST

Last modified on Fri 11 Jun 2021 06.43 AEST

It is never a particularly good look when Scottish football observers turn up noses at coaches from overseas. The Scots may claim to have founded the beautiful game but a pioneering status within it expired long ago. An unwillingness to broaden horizons and routinely petty, parochial attitudes have done the national sport no favours for decades.

Nonetheless, and even before the specific credentials of Ange Postecoglou to manage celtic are considered, it is worth remembering that foreign managers do not have a particularly successful record north of Hadrian’s Wall. For every Dick Advocaat – who enjoyed vast resources at Rangers – there are umpteen Roberto Landis. Paul Le Guen was coaxed to Ibrox when one of the most sought after coaches in Europe but flopped. There is something about the Scottish football scene that requires a unique skill set. The incessant pressures of the Old Firm are even more nuanced.

That celtic’s lengthy engagement with Eddie Howe – which they astonishingly admitted in a statement – ended in embarrassment is obvious. Howe could be more responsible than celtic for the breakdown but it matters not in the court of public opinion. There is plenty in Howe’s backstory that rendered him a strange target in the first place. Nobody doubts the 43-year-old’s coaching talent; it was, however, reasonable to ask whether a reputation built at Bournemouth qualified Howe to manage and rebuild celtic. Even in terms of media scrutiny, Howe would have been entering a totally new domain.

Howe’s belated refusal to succeed Neil Lennon is the reason celtic scrambled towards Postecoglou’s most recent managerial base of Yokohama. Month upon month spent on Plan A meant other, viable candidates were unavailable by the time Howe decided he was better off remaining out of work. In defence of Postecoglou, it isn’t possible to reel off even half a dozen viable Celticalternatives. Perhaps that is damning in itself.

More than 100 days have passed since Lennon’s second tenure ended; this event should hardly have been a surprise to anybody given a season of recurring woe. In the meantime, a head of football operations, Nick Hammond, has exited, a hitherto anonymous new chief executive, Dominic McKay, has arrived and a clutch of celtic’s best players have edged closer to the transfer they crave. Scotland’s imminent European Championship participation has switched spotlight away from a celtic hierarchy that otherwise would have been accused of dithering.

Dermot Desmond, the principal (and absentee) shareholder, does not meaningfully engage with celtic’s customer base. They, in turn, are rightly furious at the ease Rangers ended celtic’s concerted spell of domestic dominance. celtic finished last season rudderless and listless, with the team noticeably unpopular among their own support. No club has a monopoly on bad decision-making but celtic, for so long an immovable object in Scotland, have recently got so much wrong that the waste of resource has been epic.

Neil Lennon’s tenure at celtic ended more than 100 days ago with the club dithering over his replacement. Photograph: Andy Buchanan/AFP/Getty Images

The football department requires an overhaul and quickly if Rangers are to be halted in their purposeful tracks. With Scotland’s 2021-22 title winners almost guaranteed a Champions League group stage place for the following campaign, celtic have gambled on Postecoglou when the stakes could barely be higher. And make no mistake, this is a gamble; taking any coach into territory so far from their natural habitat dictates that. Postecoglou has no connection with celtic and no working experience at a club of their stature.

It may well be that Postecoglou is a fine manager. Enough learned judges, particularly in his native Australia, certainly think so. He has a commitment to attacking football and a single-mindedness which should serve him well. He looks capable of shrugging off Old Firm noise.

Yet background questions linger. Postecoglou, we are told, needs time to implement his philosophy. That commodity is not available to celtic. Howe’s volte face was confirmed on 28 May. Postecoglou – confirmed on 10 June – has to quarantine when he arrives in Scotland. The statement that confirmed his arrival included input from “incoming” and “outgoing” chief executives. There was no detail about broader structural change. Small issues, but ones that hardly help the optics.

When celtic hired Ronny Deila in 2014, part of the public reasoning was that the Norwegian was rated highly by Manchester City. It is at least coincidental that Yokohama F Marinos are part owned by the City Football Group. celtic have no formal connection to CFG – and it could be argued there are worse operations to piggy-back upon – but even the perception of panic calls to Manchester by a club that prides itself on professionalism is a damaging one.

Since Gordon Strachan left celtic in 2009, a year later than he should have, the club’s record with managers is patchy. Tony Mowbray failed, Lennon’s first term of office was a huge success and Deila’s shortcomings were routinely exposed before Brendan Rodgers raised the bar. Lennon’s return has to be placed in the error category given the way celtic imploded last season. The following of previous decision-making processes therefore looks dangerous.

Postecoglou has to rebuild a team and oversee a complete change in external attitudes in his first job in European football. He is 55. Albeit this continent is not where football starts and ends, it is fair to question why no club of substance in Europe hired him before, especially after guiding Yokohama to league success in 2019. A year later, they were ninth.

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celtic need a goalkeeper, two centre-backs, two full-backs, at least one midfielder, two wingers and two strikers to be serious title challengers. Pre-season training is scheduled to begin on 17 June.

There is no obvious link in credentials or style between Howe and Postecoglou. For reasons that will surely be explained, celtic leapt from a highly rated Premier League coach to seasoned foreign campaigner. The Australian finds a club in desperate need of a shake-up, presided over by someone who understands the territory. Rangers are unlikely to be worried by Postecoglou’s appointment; only swift action will turn the tide in his, and celtic’s, favour.

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[scottyscott1963 18,282]

How the fuck they can question Paul Le Guen,then almost give the ok to costaglue who has done zero,zilch,nada absolutely fuck all to merit the gig.

[bluenoz 30,807]

If Paul Le Guen was given more time and hadn't butted heads with Ferguson, who knows??

[Vision 16,729]

[Paisley Blue Loyal 11,154]

5 hours ago, roboscot said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/10/celtic-gamble-on-ange-postecoglou-with-major-overhaul-needed-to-challenge-Rangers

 

celtic gamble on Postecoglou with overhaul needed to challenge Rangers

After finishing last season rudderless celtic’s decision-making has again been questioned after their latest appointment

Ewan Murray6h ago

Ange Postecoglou will not have much time to implement his philosophy at celtic. Photograph: Xinhua/Shutterstock

@mrewanmurray

Fri 11 Jun 2021 04.00 AEST

Last modified on Fri 11 Jun 2021 06.43 AEST

It is never a particularly good look when Scottish football observers turn up noses at coaches from overseas. The Scots may claim to have founded the beautiful game but a pioneering status within it expired long ago. An unwillingness to broaden horizons and routinely petty, parochial attitudes have done the national sport no favours for decades.

Nonetheless, and even before the specific credentials of Ange Postecoglou to manage celtic are considered, it is worth remembering that foreign managers do not have a particularly successful record north of Hadrian’s Wall. For every Dick Advocaat – who enjoyed vast resources at Rangers – there are umpteen Roberto Landis. Paul Le Guen was coaxed to Ibrox when one of the most sought after coaches in Europe but flopped. There is something about the Scottish football scene that requires a unique skill set. The incessant pressures of the Old Firm are even more nuanced.

That celtic’s lengthy engagement with Eddie Howe – which they astonishingly admitted in a statement – ended in embarrassment is obvious. Howe could be more responsible than celtic for the breakdown but it matters not in the court of public opinion. There is plenty in Howe’s backstory that rendered him a strange target in the first place. Nobody doubts the 43-year-old’s coaching talent; it was, however, reasonable to ask whether a reputation built at Bournemouth qualified Howe to manage and rebuild celtic. Even in terms of media scrutiny, Howe would have been entering a totally new domain.

Howe’s belated refusal to succeed Neil Lennon is the reason celtic scrambled towards Postecoglou’s most recent managerial base of Yokohama. Month upon month spent on Plan A meant other, viable candidates were unavailable by the time Howe decided he was better off remaining out of work. In defence of Postecoglou, it isn’t possible to reel off even half a dozen viable Celticalternatives. Perhaps that is damning in itself.

More than 100 days have passed since Lennon’s second tenure ended; this event should hardly have been a surprise to anybody given a season of recurring woe. In the meantime, a head of football operations, Nick Hammond, has exited, a hitherto anonymous new chief executive, Dominic McKay, has arrived and a clutch of celtic’s best players have edged closer to the transfer they crave. Scotland’s imminent European Championship participation has switched spotlight away from a celtic hierarchy that otherwise would have been accused of dithering.

Dermot Desmond, the principal (and absentee) shareholder, does not meaningfully engage with celtic’s customer base. They, in turn, are rightly furious at the ease Rangers ended celtic’s concerted spell of domestic dominance. celtic finished last season rudderless and listless, with the team noticeably unpopular among their own support. No club has a monopoly on bad decision-making but celtic, for so long an immovable object in Scotland, have recently got so much wrong that the waste of resource has been epic.

Neil Lennon’s tenure at celtic ended more than 100 days ago with the club dithering over his replacement. Photograph: Andy Buchanan/AFP/Getty Images

The football department requires an overhaul and quickly if Rangers are to be halted in their purposeful tracks. With Scotland’s 2021-22 title winners almost guaranteed a Champions League group stage place for the following campaign, celtic have gambled on Postecoglou when the stakes could barely be higher. And make no mistake, this is a gamble; taking any coach into territory so far from their natural habitat dictates that. Postecoglou has no connection with celtic and no working experience at a club of their stature.

It may well be that Postecoglou is a fine manager. Enough learned judges, particularly in his native Australia, certainly think so. He has a commitment to attacking football and a single-mindedness which should serve him well. He looks capable of shrugging off Old Firm noise.

Yet background questions linger. Postecoglou, we are told, needs time to implement his philosophy. That commodity is not available to celtic. Howe’s volte face was confirmed on 28 May. Postecoglou – confirmed on 10 June – has to quarantine when he arrives in Scotland. The statement that confirmed his arrival included input from “incoming” and “outgoing” chief executives. There was no detail about broader structural change. Small issues, but ones that hardly help the optics.

When celtic hired Ronny Deila in 2014, part of the public reasoning was that the Norwegian was rated highly by Manchester City. It is at least coincidental that Yokohama F Marinos are part owned by the City Football Group. celtic have no formal connection to CFG – and it could be argued there are worse operations to piggy-back upon – but even the perception of panic calls to Manchester by a club that prides itself on professionalism is a damaging one.

Since Gordon Strachan left celtic in 2009, a year later than he should have, the club’s record with managers is patchy. Tony Mowbray failed, Lennon’s first term of office was a huge success and Deila’s shortcomings were routinely exposed before Brendan Rodgers raised the bar. Lennon’s return has to be placed in the error category given the way celtic imploded last season. The following of previous decision-making processes therefore looks dangerous.

Postecoglou has to rebuild a team and oversee a complete change in external attitudes in his first job in European football. He is 55. Albeit this continent is not where football starts and ends, it is fair to question why no club of substance in Europe hired him before, especially after guiding Yokohama to league success in 2019. A year later, they were ninth.

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celtic need a goalkeeper, two centre-backs, two full-backs, at least one midfielder, two wingers and two strikers to be serious title challengers. Pre-season training is scheduled to begin on 17 June.

There is no obvious link in credentials or style between Howe and Postecoglou. For reasons that will surely be explained, celtic leapt from a highly rated Premier League coach to seasoned foreign campaigner. The Australian finds a club in desperate need of a shake-up, presided over by someone who understands the territory. Rangers are unlikely to be worried by Postecoglou’s appointment; only swift action will turn the tide in his, and celtic’s, favour.

... international, high-impact sports journalism that’s open and free for anyone, anywhere, to enjoy … that’s a rarity. But at the Guardian we think it matters – from liveblogs to match reports, exclusive stories, big interviews and podcasts. No paywall. No need for a ticket. Equal access for all. And we can only maintain this thanks to funding from our readers.

Being open means that millions across the world can discover and access sport through the Guardian, joining us minute-by-minute for live tournaments, for news on their favourite team or athlete, breaking big stories and relying on us for in-depth reads on the most important issues in sport. And we uphold the values we know many of you share, producing sports reporting that’s outward-looking, independent, celebratory without being biased, and recognises the problems in sport too, investigating and challenging where it’s due.

But we can’t do any of this without you. From as little as $1 you can show your support for the Guardian’s sport journalism today. Help power us for today, this sporting summer, and the years to come.

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Bit unfair to say Ange has no connection to celtic imo, Man had a poster of Kenny Dalglish on his bedroom wall as a wean Ffs 😂

[Raligt 2,541]

Jackson Irvine was talking up Ange on Open Goal a few months ago. Probably where they picked him up from tbh

[left winger 14,131]

15 hours ago, BlueKnight87 said:

Sutton doing what he does best following the scum party line.

Howe was too scared to take the job and Postecoglou is some courageous guy for coming in. Away to fuck 🤣🤣

Amazing to think their are taigs that belive this shite. 

Yeah, a guy who will probably get better offers didn't come. A guy who won't, did come. Steange that!

[J-Maestro 11,062]

3 minutes ago, left winger said:

Yeah, a guy who will probably get better offers didn't come. A guy who won't, did come. Steange that!

Exactly, it's a complete cesspit that's going to destroy a couple of manager's reputations with the rebuild required. Especially if we keep Stevie G. There are going to be a lot more sharks before it gets any better for them.

[TheFamousPigeon 9,352]

12 hours ago, Lilac 3rd Kit said:

That wasn’t what I said, again, for the umpteenth time, all I said was I don’t think that Gerrard, as Rangers manager, has been “mind blowing”. That’s all it took for one or two fragile white knights to jump in  and hysterically defend his honour.

[KeyserSoze 14,530]

Got the job because he’s from Athens. 
 

 

 

he’s Athenian. 
 

 

I’ll get ma coat 😆 

[wully 47,317]

[FlippinEck 3,702]

Cunts seem to think they will get Mathew Ryan from Brighton. Thats another £5M plus on a goalie. Although I was sure I read Arsenal wanted to sign him permanently.

[scottyscott1963 18,282]

54 minutes ago, J-Maestro said:

Exactly, it's a complete cesspit that's going to destroy a couple of manager's reputations with the rebuild required. Especially if we keep Stevie G. There are going to be a lot more sharks before it gets any better for them.

59 minutes ago, left winger said:

Yeah, a guy who will probably get better offers didn't come. A guy who won't, did come. Steange that!

if that aussie bloke hasn't made a difference to them as a team within 2 minutes,his arse will be on it's way.
There is no way the mutants would have given Stevie Gerrard his 3rd start in 3 seasons,the way we did.
  

[GetToTheChoppa 6,873]

15 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said:

Got the job because he’s from Athens. 
 

 

 

he’s Athenian. 
 

 

I’ll get ma coat 😆 

That's the first time that jokes been used in here.

[KeyserSoze 14,530]

Yaasss. 
 

trailbrazer me. 

[mrmojorisin 13,611]

I wonder what the new song is gonna be like?

 

They are going to have a cunt of a time trying to find something to rhyme with Postecoglou

 

 

 

Pot of glue

[ger4life_1872 29,453]

17 hours ago, Dickie said:

,fuck your poxy cups.

That's an unbelievable line 

[slimjim1690 4,534]

4 hours ago, mrmojorisin said:

I wonder what the new song is gonna be like?

 

They are going to have a cunt of a time trying to find something to rhyme with Postecoglou

 

 

 

Pot of glue

Will be nice when we sing about him being "a sad Athenian bastard with a shite football team", can't be pulled up for that now surely can we ???

[mrmojorisin 13,611]

1 hour ago, slimjim1690 said:

Will be nice when we sing about him being "a sad Athenian bastard with a shite football team", can't be pulled up for that now surely can we ???

Haha 

[RFC55 108,793]

6 hours ago, mrmojorisin said:

I wonder what the new song is gonna be like?

 

They are going to have a cunt of a time trying to find something to rhyme with Postecoglou

 

 

 

Pot of glue

Do you post anything about Rangers