mclovin9091 1,388 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 33 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Wouldn't be the first time a star (was) felt at the tarriers..... Then soppy for seconds. What a window... Weir, Tebilly, Schidt. Was almost at thing in the 90s. Starfelt, Soppy, Fanni. New CB partnership could be a lasting memory to thumbs final contribution. Roy Hobbs and scottyscott1963 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Can't bring myself to care about what scum do. It's what we do that matters. They are the ones playing catch up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,141 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 PR machine in overdrive. The Record and Sun has them spending about £12 million today. J-Maestro, barrymorrison1 and kelvd1873 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights 2,526 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Hopefully not as good as our Swedish centre back that we spent a similar amount of money on at the age of 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, NorthernLights said: Hopefully not as good as our Swedish centre back that we spent a similar amount of money on at the age of 26 Difference is that these days we are much more professional than they are. Due diligence is done prior to any potential signing being targeted. They appear to have a scatter gun approach - which has not worked out well for them in the recent past. scottyscott1963 and NorthernLights 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights 2,526 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, GersInCanada said: Difference is that these days we are much more professional than they are. Due diligence is done prior to any potential signing being targeted. They appear to have a scatter gun approach - which has not worked out well for them in the recent past. I agree. They know that they need players but aren’t sure how many and everything got delayed after Howe turned them down so they’re panicking. Few of the signings could be good but it’s a big ask to get that team ready Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,109 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Somebody must be away if they’re spending this kind of cash, Eduoard missed training yesterday with “a minor injury” so hopefully he’s away kelvd1873 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 11,523 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 30 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: PR machine in overdrive. The Record and Sun has them spending about £12 million today. Spending the money from the 200,000 season tickets they sold SteveEarle, barrymorrison1, HG5 and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 41,909 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 35 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: PR machine in overdrive. The Record and Sun has them spending about £12 million today. Let's be honest, they are going to have to spend at least double that to try get anywhere near us this season. Barely enough 1st team players to make an 11 and 3/4/5 wanting out the door. Probably why they are still wanting £20m for Ajer and £30m for Eduoard. Laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemac 4,972 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Stolen off twitter, so probably a load of shite but Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I imagine that scum deals are structured along the lines of so much per year of the contract. No way they are paying full whack up front but that is how it will be spun. Possibly explains why they have had so many knock backs. Selling club - the price is 4M scum - we will give you 1M per year Selling club - hangs up the phone kelvd1873 and Paisley Blue Loyal 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersross 6,527 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, stevemac said: Stolen off twitter, so probably a load of shite but At least part of this is rubbish. The '14 day cooling off period' doesn't apply to employment contracts. Only goods and services purchased in specific circumstances. He may well be getting sacked but, unless they can prove he breached his contract (which you imagine he'd challenge legally given the value of it), they're not getting out of it that easily/cheaply. esquire8, HG5 and scottyscott1963 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemac 4,972 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, rangersross said: At least part of this is rubbish. The '14 day cooling off period' doesn't apply to employment contracts. Only goods and services purchased in specific circumstances. He may well be getting sacked but, unless they can prove he breached his contract (which you imagine he'd challenge legally given the value of it), they're not getting out of it that easily/cheaply. Aye i assumed as much, but surely bringing the club into disrepute is a sackable offence in itself? may not be enough evidence for a criminal conviction with his noncing but surely enough for the club to say he has abused his position of trust as a professional representative of the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 41,909 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 58 minutes ago, GersInCanada said: I imagine that scum deals are structured along the lines of so much per year of the contract. No way they are paying full whack up front but that is how it will be spun. Possibly explains why they have had so many knock backs. Selling club - the price is 4M scum - we will give you 1M per year Selling club - hangs up the phone Think most deals are structured like that now, even our recent ones like Hagi, Roofe, Itten etc. Their issue is they'll offer well under the players valuation then end up paying the valuation in a desperate attempt to get players in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post plumbGER 24,518 Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 hours ago, GersInCanada said: Can't bring myself to care about what scum do. It's what we do that matters. They are the ones playing catch up. 1 hour ago, GersInCanada said: Difference is that these days we are much more professional than they are. Due diligence is done prior to any potential signing being targeted. They appear to have a scatter gun approach - which has not worked out well for them in the recent past. 1 hour ago, GersInCanada said: I imagine that scum deals are structured along the lines of so much per year of the contract. No way they are paying full whack up front but that is how it will be spun. Possibly explains why they have had so many knock backs. Selling club - the price is 4M scum - we will give you 1M per year Selling club - hangs up the phone Rowley Birkin, Bluekev, kelvd1873 and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 63,953 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 That's how transfers are paid... Know nothing of the guy other than he is behind Helander is the national team pecking order Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,461 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 14 hours ago, The Specky Liar said: I don't know if I'm missing something here but they are desperate for wingers? No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 63,953 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, KingKirk said: No No what Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,461 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: No what You asked do they need wingers no they don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 63,953 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, KingKirk said: You asked do they need wingers no they don't. They've got a manager who is apparently big on wingers and the only two they have are Forrest who missed most of last season and Johnston who is a Dundee Utd level player. How do they not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 38 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: They've got a manager who is apparently big on wingers and the only two they have are Forrest who missed most of last season and Johnston who is a Dundee Utd level player. How do they not? They also have a midget called Dembele who is the spiritual successor to Messi. Toronto2Glasgow, frenv, WilliamMunny and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersross 6,527 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 2 hours ago, stevemac said: Aye i assumed as much, but surely bringing the club into disrepute is a sackable offence in itself? may not be enough evidence for a criminal conviction with his noncing but surely enough for the club to say he has abused his position of trust as a professional representative of the club? Could be, mate, but I'm always amazed by how hard it is to sack someone, especially someone with the resources to challenge the decision in court. Football contracts are obviously a unique category too (e.g. you can't cancel someone's contract because they've performed poorly - no matter for how long). 'Bringing the club into disrepute' is a bit slippy legally unless the player in question has been charged / found guilty of a crime. That's probably why Sunderland didn't sack Adam Johnson until he was found guilty in court and why Derby ultimately had to pay £2.3M to Keogh. frenv and HG5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenv 2,114 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, rangersross said: Could be, mate, but I'm always amazed by how hard it is to sack someone, especially someone with the resources to challenge the decision in court. Football contracts are obviously a unique category too (e.g. you can't cancel someone's contract because they've performed poorly - no matter for how long). 'Bringing the club into disrepute' is a bit slippy legally unless the player in question has been charged / found guilty of a crime. That's probably why Sunderland didn't sack Adam Johnson until he was found guilty in court and why Derby ultimately had to pay £2.3M to Keogh. Just had a look at the Adam Johnson Wiki - accused in March 2015, playing until being sacked when his court case came up in February 2016 and he pleaded guilty. Whilst it's a different offence (thus far), with the Thumb only being on a year-long deal and the apparent backlog of cases up here given Covid, they could be stuck with paying his wages for the remainder of his contract or paying him off (presumably still in full) to try to distance themselves from any court case further down the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, rangersross said: Could be, mate, but I'm always amazed by how hard it is to sack someone, especially someone with the resources to challenge the decision in court. Football contracts are obviously a unique category too (e.g. you can't cancel someone's contract because they've performed poorly - no matter for how long). 'Bringing the club into disrepute' is a bit slippy legally unless the player in question has been charged / found guilty of a crime. That's probably why Sunderland didn't sack Adam Johnson until he was found guilty in court and why Derby ultimately had to pay £2.3M to Keogh. Think some clubs have 'Morality Clauses' in contracts. Did Chelsea not get shot of Mutu years back for being a mad wee coke head? Think they just ripped up his contract and even sued him for his transfer fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenv 2,114 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 hours ago, 6superbarry6 said: Somebody must be away if they’re spending this kind of cash, Eduoard missed training yesterday with “a minor injury” so hopefully he’s away If even remotely true, I genuinely don't see how a club could think he's worth anything close to that (even ignoring the fact that he could sign a pre-contract in six months). GazTops and HG5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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