don logan 8,062 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Laudrup1984 said: I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a keeper hold a penalty. Giakoumakis is a great prospect this season. Could be another Shane Duffy. That atrocious attempt at an overhead kick and the shitey miss at the end were nuggets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, KingKirk said: That's no what happened tho mate completely different. You said: 'how can the ref then give a penalty for something that happened off the ball?' What I described was off the ball, so would it be a penalty or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbt1548 1,839 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, KingKirk said: @rbt1548that's all good info mate but how can the ref then give a penalty for something that happened off the ball? That's bonkers! OK, say the ball is being passed between two players on one side of the park the ball is deemed in play, at the same time on the other side of the park someone blocks an opposing player making a movement off the ball to try and get involved in the move. In that case because the ball is in play a foul is awarded where the offence took place. The one we are talking about happened in the penalty area so he had to give a penalty. Whereas, if the same block happened when waiting on a free kick to be taken, the ref may choose to take action against the offending player, but he cannot move the location of the original free kick as the game had not restarted and the ball wouldn't be in play. That's about the best way I can try and explain it, other's might be able to explain it better. TamCoopz and KingKirk 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,418 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, KingKirk said: @rbt1548that's all good info mate but how can the ref then give a penalty for something that happened off the ball? That's bonkers! It is a deemed a foul/penalty even if off the ball. If it weren't Alfredo would be headbutting the Lego muncher every time the whistle was blown. I'd cheer it of course. Hadron Collider 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Do you think bitton was scared to watch the penalty in case they missed or scored? Drunk and disorderly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,633 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Cool fucked it. Least they missed the pen glad we cleared it up👍 rbt1548 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,418 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, KingKirk said: Cool fucked it. Least they missed the pen glad we cleared it up👍 Need any rule tips in future DM me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jintybear 8,536 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, trueblue 64 said: The ball wasn't in play at the time of the slap, it was in the goalies hands so shouldn't be a penalty. The ball was still in play. It hadn’t gone out. I suppose the best way to look at it is when the Ross county goalie saved a shot from Morelos and he put the ball down to kick it out but as it hadn’t gone over the line it was still in play and Alfie cheekily came round and booted it into the net 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mclovin9091 1,388 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Livi should have had a penalty, keeper comes out and missed the ball then took the player out. Anywhere else on the pitch thats a foul and a booking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty1976 1,671 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 27 minutes ago, mclovin9091 said: Livi should have had a penalty, keeper comes out and missed the ball then took the player out. Anywhere else on the pitch thats a foul and a booking. If an outfield player had challenged like that the penalty would be given (except v celtic at the piggery) Keepers get away with murder sometimes whilst also being untouchable. Jamie0202, mclovin9091 and dougie76 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ayrshireranger 8,056 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 We laugh, but his antics were a disgrace. Morelos or any of our players would be (rightly) hammered for that. AGC123, middli, dougie76 and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkNS 6,298 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7927248/celtic-fan-racially-abused-livingston-ayo-obileye-journalist/ BLUEDIGNITY 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ritchieshearercaldow 22,137 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 hours ago, BigDak said: Aye, I was just about to ask this. If you punched someone at a corner the ref would surely send you off before letting the corner be taken rather than giving a free kick? No? Edit: Just seen some people highlighting that the ball was in play so it’s a pen. It just seemed odd. But if a player got hit on the other side of the pitch from play I appreciate there’s be a free-kick. The keeper was holding the ball as far as I could see and everyone was walking away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,137 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 hours ago, scottyc06 said: If it’s in his hands it’s in play Not the way I see it, but I could be wrong. I would have thought it’s in play when he releases it. trueblue 64 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Colin Traive 22,741 Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: Not the way I see it, but I could be wrong. I would have thought it’s in play when he releases it. Haven’t seen the build up just the Oscar winning dive. Fucking Ronald Villiers level acting. But if a cross or corner comes in, or the keeper makes a save and holds on to the ball, the game is in play. Play only stops when the whistle blows for a foul, goal, time up etc. So if there is jostling in the box before a corner is taken and punches are thrown, red or yellow cards can be issued but a penalty can’t be awarded. Bad Robot, Rowley Birkin, WilliamMunny and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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72barca 1,788 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 7 hours ago, Negri's lovechild said: I didn't think either were penalties tbh. The Hart one is, as you say, a collision and he didn't go out to harm the boy. The Kyogo one was embarrassing and you see lots of niggles and off the ball incidents frequently but rarely are they given as penalties. Only thing I will say though, is he gives the ref a decision to make. When I played fitba 50 odd year ago I was a goalkeeper, and as such we were instructed to control our six-yard-box. Your statement is bullshit. If the centrehalf had struck him with an elbow to the head and a knee to the back he would have been sent off. As a goalkeeper you are definitely taught to raise your knee to defend yourself. The smack on the back of the head is a bonus but if done properly it is all part of the goalkeeper defending himself. I remember at one point in my youth I was being scouted by Kilwinning Rangers, and I rushed out to the edge of the 18 yard box to to punch clear a breakaway and inadvertantly punched our centre hal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
72barca 1,788 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, 72barca said: When I played fitba 50 odd year ago I was a goalkeeper, and as such we were instructed to control our six-yard-box. Your statement is bullshit. If the centrehalf had struck him with an elbow to the head and a knee to the back he would have been sent off. As a goalkeeper you are definitely taught to raise your knee to defend yourself. The smack on the back of the head is a bonus but if done properly it is all part of the goalkeeper defending himself. I remember at one point in my youth I was being scouted by Kilwinning Rangers, and I rushed out to the edge of the 18 yard box to to punch clear a breakaway and inadvertantly punched our centre hal Don't know what happened there, but I was told Kilwinning said ' F**k this, the guy is an animal' The little things in life, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,078 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 26 minutes ago, 72barca said: Don't know what happened there, but I was told Kilwinning said ' F**k this, the guy is an animal' The little things in life, eh? Why are you replying to yourself? Dan Deacon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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