LegendofCoop 11,590 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Said it a few times. We seem to have more confidence defensively when he's in the team. I can't put my finger on why....probably just his experience. Balogun is brilliant, does very well every time he's played, and makes some great tackles. However, Helander seems to organise those around him better. It's fuckin great to know that if he's injured we have a great replacement. holdnudgehold likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SeparateEntityMyArse 45,906 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just now, Lord Lockin said: of coarse not - a part of your name sums you up - let you decide what part "Coarse" Fucking hell get your grammar right if you want to come the cunt mate 🤣🤣🤣 Copeland1983 likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrLaudrup 2,441 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 The situation in defence highlights the reason we’ve been so much better this season. It’s all about the quality of our squad. Players manage a few games then there are injuries but we’ve been seamless. Helander is a quality player and a big squad player. Think back to day 1 and Katic being injured. Last season we’d be looking at Edmundson. Now we are in such a stronger position that when he was suspended most of us didn’t even care. We are where we are being we’ve made strong signings and improved our squad massively. Helander is part of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SeparateEntityMyArse 45,906 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, DrLaudrup said: The situation in defence highlights the reason we’ve been so much better this season. It’s all about the quality of our squad. Players manage a few games then there are injuries but we’ve been seamless. Helander is a quality player and a big squad player. Think back to day 1 and Katic being injured. Last season we’d be looking at Edmundson. Now we are in such a stronger position that when he was suspended most of us didn’t even care. We are where we are being we’ve made strong signings and improved our squad massively. Helander is part of that. We've improved hugely with 3 of our CHs all being great quality. Edmundson the jury is out, doubt we'll see him again tbh. And to think folk wanted David Bates back 😳 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Copeland1983 1,384 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Team seems more balanced with him in there, reads the game well and compliments the other players we have. We have terrific options there, the days of Kiernan and Cardoso seem a long way away. DrLaudrup likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Lockin 2,495 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 14 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: "Coarse" Fucking hell get your grammar right if you want to come the cunt mate 🤣🤣🤣 oops, fuck should have started with a capital letter, sorry about the grammar but what part of your name best describes you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SeparateEntityMyArse 45,906 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 10 minutes ago, Lord Lockin said: oops, fuck should have started with a capital letter, sorry about the grammar but what part of your name best describes you Its got fuck all to do with capital letters 🤣🤣🤣🤣. You're the fucking Shane Duffy of posters tonight mate. Cunt calling himself a Lord trying to dig someone else for any part of their user name 😄😄😄😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Lockin 2,495 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Its got fuck all to do with capital letters 🤣🤣🤣🤣. You're the fucking Shane Duffy of posters tonight mate. Cunt calling himself a Lord trying to dig someone else for any part of their user name 😄😄😄😄 would rather be called Lord than ARSE now good night - talk to you on Wednesday Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GabrielTomato 24,947 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Helander vs Balogun? Helander is the better defender. Baolgun has the pace to make certain sides rethink their tactics. For me, I'm Helander. RockwellGers, ForeverAndEver and Ambrogio like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SeparateEntityMyArse 45,906 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 9 minutes ago, Lord Lockin said: would rather be called Lord than ARSE now good night - talk to you on Wednesday 🤣🤣🤣 Duffus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psb07158 21,630 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, GabrielTomato said: Helander vs Balogun? Helander is the better defender. Baolgun has the pace to make certain sides rethink their tactics. For me, I'm Helander. Spot on. Helander's a baller Leftpegcoopz11 and GabrielTomato like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GabrielTomato 24,947 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, psb07158 said: Spot on. Helander's a baller Reads the game so easily. I also think his recovery his underrated. We've managed him back well, I don't think we'll see him drop out of the side now. Blues Brother likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SeparateEntityMyArse 45,906 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 8 minutes ago, psb07158 said: Spot on. Helander's a baller Today he made a stupid mistake early doors. 2nd half he gave away a needless foul. At that freekick he deliberately stayed wrong side of his man, then couldn't get round to challenge the boy who dead center around 15 yards out hit the bar with his header. Rid himself of basic errors, find another yard of pace, then we have a baller. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueFrewExile 112 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I get the Helander looks slow argument. But I can't think of a single occasion that he's been done for pace. Balogun has been good for us, but Helander is so much better. Blues Brother likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blues Brother 244 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 For someone without any pace, I’m struggling to think of a time when it’s been so blatantly obvious. In terms of us losing a goal due to it or indeed even loads of opportunities. I reckon he’s a top player and I prefer the balance of the defence when he is in it. psb07158 likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smell the hotdog 2,668 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 We’ve been caught with the same type of goal against Motherwell twice ( home and away) and Standard twice. If I’m not wrong Balogun was in beside Goldson in all 4 games. Big man might be slow but he’s the best we’ve got at reading a game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psb07158 21,630 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, GabrielTomato said: Reads the game so easily. I also think his recovery his underrated. We've managed him back well, I don't think we'll see him drop out of the side now. A lot has been made out on here about his lack of pace, but his positional sense more than makes up for it and he hasn't really been caught out by pace when he has played. He's an excellent defender and, as much as I like Balogun, Helander is better in just about every single area we expect from a Rangers centre-back. It frustrates me when Gerrard rotates him out, we always seem to look much better due to the natural balance of having 2 left-footed and 2 right-footed players at the back. I hope Balogun signs on for another year though! don logan and GabrielTomato like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blues Brother 244 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Jesus, a few of us thinking the same thing at the exact same time. Must mean we’re correct Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psb07158 21,630 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Today he made a stupid mistake early doors. 2nd half he gave away a needless foul. At that freekick he deliberately stayed wrong side of his man, then couldn't get round to challenge the boy who dead center around 15 yards out hit the bar with his header. Rid himself of basic errors, find another yard of pace, then we have a baller. I mean, that's football and the guy our board seem to think is our best centre-half, Connor Goldson, makes plenty of mistakes too. There's a reason these guys are playing for Rangers and not at a higher level. Their mistakes are only magnified when they lead to us losing / dropping points. Like Balogun's horror-show against St Mirren and then last week his poor positional play gifting Motherwell a goal. Overall, Helander can pass better, read the game better and is more of a threat in the opposition's box. He takes it pretty comfortably for me, IMO. GabrielTomato likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RockwellGers 8,136 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 13 minutes ago, GabrielTomato said: Helander vs Balogun? Helander is the better defender. Baolgun has the pace to make certain sides rethink their tactics. For me, I'm Helander. If Balogun is the backup then we are truly blessed. I mean we're blessed to have both anyway GabrielTomato likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psb07158 21,630 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, RockwellGers said: If Balogun is the backup then we are truly blessed. I mean we're blessed to have both anyway Makes it even sweeter when you think we got him on a free. Our scouting team has been fantastic over the last few years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RockwellGers 8,136 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, psb07158 said: Makes it even sweeter when you think we got him on a free. Our scouting team has been fantastic over the last few years. Honestly I'm stunned by it, looking at the depth we have and how well each player has performed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GabrielTomato 24,947 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 We're definitely blessed by our 3 CBs we have. Not only their ability but their form too. Balance and composure counts for a lot and Helander ticks every box for me. But as others have said, signing Balogun on a free is fantastic business, I've heard he's a big personality in the dressing room. psb07158 likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SeparateEntityMyArse 45,906 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, psb07158 said: I mean, that's football and the guy our board seem to think is our best centre-half, Connor Goldson, makes plenty of mistakes too. There's a reason these guys are playing for Rangers and not at a higher level. Their mistakes are only magnified when they lead to us losing / dropping points. Like Balogun's horror-show against St Mirren and then last week his poor positional play gifting Motherwell a goal. Overall, Helander can pass better, read the game better and is more of a threat in the opposition's box. He takes it pretty comfortably for me, IMO. I dont think there's too much between them tbh Helander has strengths, Balogun has other strengths. To suggest one is clearly better than the other is wrong imo. Helander played miles worse in a European game than any other CH this season. But yeah Balogun has also looked ropey at times. Goldson has been a stalwart this season. Mistakes at an absolute minimum, nowhere near plenty, and far outweighed by what he gives us both offensively and defensively. He'd be poty ffs if it wasn't for tav. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smell the hotdog 2,668 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, psb07158 said: Makes it even sweeter when you think we got him on a free. Our scouting team has been fantastic over the last few years. I’m pretty sure Gerrard mentioned it was to do with Paul Cook the Wigan gaffer, who he’s mates with recommended him. Not sure there was much scouting to do with it tbh although it’s vastly improved from what we had. psb07158 likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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