RockwellGers 14,596 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Big man deserves a thread, was solid and consistent today. Several times I saw him command the situation and snuff out the danger, had a lot of confident efficient touches too. Plus he scored a belter. I think him and Goldson are a great fit. This was not an excuse to show him in a JCB. But here he is in a JCB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,287 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 I love the big man. He just gets on with the job and never complains. Also, Barisic plays better beside him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,023 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 I love Helander. Ice cool and reads the game really well. Hope he starts on Wednesday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,262 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Couple of wee moments that I'd put down to rustiness. Had a very good game overall and took his goal very well. Great that him and Balogun need to keep their performances high to win the slot beside Goldson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Had a mare against benfica apart from the big man hardly put a foot wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhrfc 2,242 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Awesome today, ok he wasn’t exactly tested in his primary role as a defender but can’t fault his goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Ortega 101 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Balogun has more pace and I think he’s been a decent find, but there’s a reason Helander was playing in Serie A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,287 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Only time we lost with him in the team was against Young Boys. Am I right in saying that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockwellGers 14,596 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ariel Ortega said: Balogun has more pace and I think he’s been a decent find, but there’s a reason Helander was playing in Serie A. Balogun has been near flawless in his few appearances recently (and before that) so we have great options for that spot as @SeparateEntityMyArse said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 33,940 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Really couldnt choose between him and Balogun . Just glad whoever is picked , always does well alongside Goldson . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy666 2,857 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, bluenoz said: Only time we lost with him in the team was against Young Boys. Am I right in saying that? YB, Leverkusen 2nd leg and the filth in the final. 3 games in 34. Never lost a league game with him in defence. Unreal stat. 😳 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,121 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Better than Balogun in every aspect apart from pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayro 2,926 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 I really like Balogun but have always thought Borna plays better with Helander in the team as the balance is better with him being naturally left footed. There was a Goldson interview where he praised Helander reading of the game, composure etc which is what we need at the highest level. He had a shit game against Benfica away this season but has been faultless out with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Ortega 101 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, bluenoz said: Only time we lost with him in the team was against Young Boys. Am I right in saying that? To be fair, under Gerrard we very rarely ever lose, regardless of the opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,262 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 minute ago, The Beast said: Better than Balogun in every aspect apart from pace. Balogun is better at breaking from defence with the ball. He's also better at getting tight on attackers without fouling. I also think he exudes more confidence which helps others around him Its nip and tuck between them, neither is considerably better than the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockwellGers 14,596 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Balogun is better at breaking from defence with the ball. He's also better at getting tight on attackers without fouling. I also think he exudes more confidence which helps others around him Its nip and tuck between them, neither is considerably better than the other. My first reaction is that Helander is the top man here. But honestly can't fault Balogun either, high confidence in both of them. Superb recruitment all round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,498 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Best centre back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the old guard 2,291 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Fine after the first ten minutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,900 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Only my opinion but I think Helander would have positioned himself to cut out the cross last week in the Motherwell goal - thought Balogun could have done better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,479 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Don't wanna hijack his thread, but I think the common denominator this season is Goldson. I think players (Balougun, Helander etc) playing next to him feel safer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 The problem is his pace, it’s been said that the management team think if he had pace he would be playing for a top 6 team in the EPL. I think the system we play with 2 full backs bombing on leaves our centre haves exposed to pace down the sides. Against the better teams this is an issue. i think he’s a great centre half but I think our system exposes his only weakness which is unfortunate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,262 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, Lord Lockin said: Only my opinion but I think Helander would have positioned himself to cut out the cross last week in the Motherwell goal - thought Balogun could have done better Helander's man who got the header on target today. Bang central today too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbm26896 995 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Helander or Balogun ? Both really good defenders and each playing their part this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,205 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Best centre back. Don’t agree. Do like him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,900 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Helander's man who got the header on target today. Bang central today too I was giving my opinion on the Motherwell goal ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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