Valance1690 3,826 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said: This has been the issue for me with the Roofe one. Ref can see it and made a decision yellow was enough. This process is now just re-officiating games to suit. He never seen it though apparently...funny that.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Bill8972 said: Rangers striker Kemar Roofe’s Scottish Football Association fast-track hearing has been put back 24 hours. Did they give a reason for this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valance1690 3,826 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: Did they give a reason for this? Clubs request apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 33 minutes ago, Valance1690 said: there's been dives far worse in the league over the last few years than Ajeti's A dive is a dive whether it's a worse one or not. He cheated and won a penalty and deserved to be cited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valance1690 3,826 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, plumbGER said: A dive is a dive whether it's a worse one or not. He cheated and won a penalty and deserved to be cited. Not going to argue and back a taig up lol However the shit they've let go without citing, to bring that up is pretty bizarre to say the least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 24 minutes ago, Valance1690 said: He never seen it though apparently...funny that.. The ref saw it and responded to it with a yellow, why then are refs saying they haven't seen something? Is it the way CO department are questioning refs that twists what they saw? Are refs being penalized by the CO office if they stand by what they saw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, Valance1690 said: Not going to argue and back a taig up lol However the shit they've let go without citing, to bring that up is pretty bizarre to say the least Apparently because it had a defining effect on the outcome of the game. In real match time it's only a booking so it is strange to pull it up but it is something that needs addressed and eradicated from the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc holliday 1,653 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Scrap the whole compliance farrago. It is not comprehensive in coverage ,highly inconsistent in referrals,media highlighted and driven ,selective in focus,secretive,unfair,highly contentious and is clearly not fit for purpose. It causes more damage,anger and controversy than it provides clear and just outcomes and transparency. Get rid of it now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valance1690 3,826 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: The ref saw it and responded to it with a yellow, why then are refs saying they haven't seen something? Is it the way CO department are questioning refs that twists what they saw? Are refs being penalized by the CO office if they stand by what they saw? Personally I think it's just easier for a ref to say they never saw it & let someone else deal with it. If he comes out and says I saw the tackle clearly and deemed it to be a yellow then he's plastered over the papers the next few days as the reason why Roofe/any other player can't be cited. The ref's up here are terrible in general however I don't blame them for dealing with it like that, they've watched it happen for years where the media just tear someone to shreds so why even bother putting yourself out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 minute ago, doc holliday said: Scrap the whole compliance farrago. It is not comprehensive in coverage ,highly inconsistent in referrals,media highlighted and driven ,selective in focus,secretive,unfair,highly contentious and not fit for purpose.It causes more damage,anger and controversy than it provides clear and just outcomes. Get rid of it now. Agreed, for what it's cost to set up and support the CO office they could have installed VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, doc holliday said: Scrap the whole compliance farrago. It is not comprehensive in coverage ,highly inconsistent in referrals,media highlighted and driven ,selective in focus,secretive,unfair,highly contentious and is clearly not fit for purpose. It causes more damage,anger and controversy than it provides clear and just outcomes and transparency. Get rid of it now. We could implement a compliance system for the compliance system to make sure it's complying and consistent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Valance1690 said: Personally I think it's just easier for a ref to say they never saw it & let someone else deal with it. If he comes out and says I saw the tackle clearly and deemed it to be a yellow then he's plastered over the papers the next few days as the reason why Roofe/any other player can't be cited. The ref's up here are terrible in general however I don't blame them for dealing with it like that, they've watched it happen for years where the media just tear someone to shreds so why even bother putting yourself out there. I think if match day reports and the reason behind some of the decision were made public record then this would go some way to stopping the media from targeting refs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,801 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Devante Cole not cited for kicking out at sorro. Again showing more its incompetence than cheating. They're fucking awful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valance1690 3,826 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Just now, Sweetheart said: I think if match day reports and the reason behind some of the decision were made public record then this would go some way to stopping the media from targeting refs. Actually a good idea, be surprised if it ever happens though as it's too logical Don't think we're far away from the ref's banding together again and going against the authorities, especially if they keep trying to re-ref the game as much as they are at the moment. As I said before (and others have also) I don't even think it's blatant cheating anymore, I just don't think they're very good at their job. To be perfectly honest why would you even want to be a ref up here these days, especially in charge of ours/the taigs games, the fallout from any bad decision they make can't be worth the money they get for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,436 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, RfcSevco said: Devante Cole not cited for kicking out at sorro. Again showing more its incompetence than cheating. They're fucking awful How can stepping on someone be a red, but booting a guy in the ribs not be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,148 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: The ref saw it and responded to it with a yellow, why then are refs saying they haven't seen something? Is it the way CO department are questioning refs that twists what they saw? Are refs being penalized by the CO office if they stand by what they saw? because they see an incident, one time and in real time and most often you can pick up other parts you missed during a review which will consist of slowing down and scrolling the footage back and forward just like VAR. I can’t see a ref speaking out against a CO decision as they’ll just get black balled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 4,596 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 51 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: Did they give a reason for this? Need more time to influence the referee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, Valance1690 said: Actually a good idea, be surprised if it ever happens though as it's too logical Don't think we're far away from the ref's banding together again and going against the authorities, especially if they keep trying to re-ref the game as much as they are at the moment. As I said before (and others have also) I don't even think it's blatant cheating anymore, I just don't think they're very good at their job. To be perfectly honest why would you even want to be a ref up here these days, especially in charge of ours/the taigs games, the fallout from any bad decision they make can't be worth the money they get for it. I think the SFA need to provide more money into the training of refs, the standard of the training system is low if refs across the board are not good at their job. I do think one, possibly two are cheats but that would be hard to prove. I also thought that the reason behind the cheating was some sort of Tim Donaghy style scam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,801 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: How can stepping on someone be a red, but booting a guy in the ribs not be? Think we need to be objective and realise that it's not just us getting bad citations from.them and the taigs getting off. Dundee utd should've had a player cited for an incident last week vs Motherwell and he wasn't. Now Cole v the taigs and he wasn't. Its farcical Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,519 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, RfcSevco said: Think we need to be objective and realise that it's not just us getting bad citations from.them and the taigs getting off. Dundee utd should've had a player cited for an incident last week vs Motherwell and he wasn't. Now Cole v the taigs and he wasn't. Its farcical He’s not been charged because bizarrely under the rules of the game what he did doesn’t equate to either violent conduct or serious foul play. It’s why Morelos got his red against Aberdeen for the kick out at McKenna downgraded to a booking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 28 minutes ago, RfcSevco said: Think we need to be objective and realise that it's not just us getting bad citations from.them and the taigs getting off. Dundee utd should've had a player cited for an incident last week vs Motherwell and he wasn't. Now Cole v the taigs and he wasn't. Its farcical The fact that their have been only 4 citings this season for late challenges says it all....the fact that 3 of those 4 involve banning Rangers players says it even louder...they couldn't get anymore obvious even if they came out and admitted it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,860 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 What time is the hearing for Roofe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YearsofWar 549 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, plumbGER said: Apparently because it had a defining effect on the outcome of the game. In real match time it's only a booking so it is strange to pull it up but it is something that needs addressed and eradicated from the game. He has been cited for the successful deception of a match official where his team has gained an unfair advantage from deceiving the referee. If the referee had punished his dive during the game, he would be given a yellow for attempting to deceive the referee where no sporting advantage was gained. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Ajeti the diver just got cleared. Fast Track Notice of Complaint | Albian Ajeti, Player, Celtic FC Thursday 4 February 2021 Player: Albian Ajeti, Celtic FC Match: Kilmarnock FC v Celtic FC Date: Tuesday 2 February 2021 Competition: Scottish Premiership Disciplinary Rule allegedly breached: Disciplinary Rule 201: No player shall cause a match official to make an incorrect decision and/or support an error of judgment on the part of a match official by an act of simulation which results in that player’s team obtaining a Substantial Advantage. Any Fast Track Notice of Complaint alleging a breach of this Rule shall be Determined by a Fast Track Tribunal subject to the provisions of Section 13. Fast Track Tribunal Hearing: Tuesday 9 February 2021 Outcome: Not proved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,110 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Don't expect the same tomorrow! ha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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