Jump to content

Scottish football clubs urged to apologise for historical child sex abuse


Recommended Posts

  • Replies 817
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

Stopped reading when the first name mentioned is Rangers  Fenian bastard 

The dude has on a number of occasions stated he doesn’t want to talk or write about child abuse but at every opportunity jumps in to say aye but what about Rangers  I find this a bit strange tbh 

celtic (or boys club) - 6 convicted in court of law - 35 mentions Rangers - zero convictions - 25 mentions Hibs - knew a paedo existed but informed no one. Jim McCafferty worked for Hibs too. Co

Posted Images

3 minutes ago, Brackley said:

Interestingly BBC Question Time tonight is from Scotland with Angela Haggerty as one of the guests.

Wonder if there will be a planted question for the Hag to spout Lieswell's instructions. 

Don't hold your breath. More like she'll be on about Indy Ref2 and pumping up the rhetoric! 

HG5 likes this
Link to post
Share on other sites

This just popped up on my browser, someone posted earlier that Lawwell had got wind of the report and is jumping prior to the bubble bursting, may not be far from the mark...

Apologies if this has already been posted...

DDB14AA2-C537-4E98-97A9-66B53F064CD5.png

HG5 likes this
Link to post
Share on other sites

Of course the article is part of an agenda, but some of that is due to ongoing legal issues which cannot be published (or discussed on phone ins etc). Publishing it prior the conclusion of those issues is disingenuous at best but doesn’t mean we should ignore our own issues, just because our rivals are worse. 
 

We all know the stories about our rivals, and that will come out in due time through the legal process, but instances of abuse is not a time for whataboutery. We as a club need to own and apologise/recompense anyone who has been affected by individuals connected with us. We need to show we are leaders both on and off the pitch and doing the right thing by these people is the least we can do.  

BlueAvenger and Boybluesy like this
Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

We need to move quickly with a statement apologising where fault lies and compensate without delay. I want us to show we are the polar opposite of that mob trying to deny and deflect, but mostly because its the right thing to do. 

It isn't as simple as that though.  I'm not trying to deflect here but our Club and probably other clubs (not the tims) have to be careful and take legal advice.   There will be a number of factors to be considered before we say or do anything.

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, KingKirk said:

Have Rangers realesed a  statement regarding this tonight. I was hoping we'd see on? Really poor if not btw

Handle your responsibility Rangers and do the correct thing. 

I think speaking to their legal teams before releasing a statement that could possibly harm us and cause legal ramifications will be a bigger priority than appeasing any fans. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Malkytfp1 said:

I think speaking to their legal teams before releasing a statement that could possibly harm us and cause legal ramifications will be a bigger priority than appeasing any fans. 

There's a bit in the report that covers making an apology can't be used as evidence of wrongdoing (not the exact wording but don't have time to go quote the report just now)

Malkytfp1 likes this
Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, Howsitgoing said:

Do you believe that this paedo escaped justice because Rangers covered up what he done? 

No. That falls on several different parties. However I do believe that Rangers' actions weren't enough to ensure he couldn't continue offending - while also doing pathetically little to support victims, then or now. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, The Dude said:

No. That falls on several different parties. However I do believe that Rangers' actions weren't enough to ensure he couldn't continue offending - while also doing pathetically little to support victims, then or now. 

What caused his career to effectively end within SFA remit football clubs whilst he was only in his mid 40’s? 

They didn’t take the allegations seriously enough and should of stopped the bullying by the other coaches that seem to have occurred. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Howsitgoing said:

What caused his career to effectively end within SFA remit football clubs whilst he was only in his mid 40’s? 

They didn’t take the allegations seriously enough and should of stopped the bullying by the other coaches that seem to have occurred. 

He'd not be the first coach to fall out the game in his 40s. 

What caused McCoists to end at a similar age? 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, JCDBigBear said:

It isn't as simple as that though.  I'm not trying to deflect here but our Club and probably other clubs (not the tims) have to be careful and take legal advice.   There will be a number of factors to be considered before we say or do anything.

What factors?

Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, The Dude said:

He'd not be the first coach to fall out the game in his 40s. 

What caused McCoists to end at a similar age? 

 

He was a coach that if I remember right we paid some sort of transfer fee to Hibs to get. He was at a level where he could easily have went to another professional club. The inquiry can’t even confirm if he went to amateur clubs. Something stopped him.
 

McCoist tried to get a managers  job with Sunderland and a couple others, he has found his ideal profession, he’s brilliant at what he does. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said:

He was a coach that if I remember right we paid some sort of transfer fee to Hibs to get. He was at a level where he could easily have went to another professional club. The inquiry can’t even confirm if he went to amateur clubs. Something stopped him.
 

McCoist tried to get a managers  job with Sunderland and a couple others, he has found his ideal profession, he’s brilliant at what he does. 

We paid to buy out the remainder of his contract at Hibs (if anything at all). 

Whats to say Neely didn't go for other jobs but wasn't given it? Perhaps Neely found his 'ideal profession' away from football. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, The Dude said:

We paid to buy out the remainder of his contract at Hibs (if anything at all). 

Whats to say Neely didn't go for other jobs but wasn't given it? Perhaps Neely found his 'ideal profession' away from football. 

They say the police was aware so what else could Rangers have done to stop him getting his ideal job away from football because his football career was finished. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Still pisses me off that Hibs role in the Neely case passes without comment.

There are processes today around disclosure and references etc but, at that time, none of that was in place. So they let a man known or suspected of this kind of behaviour move to another club to carry on.

A wee phone call or a discreet chat over a quiet cup of tea was the least that Hibs should have done.

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said:

They say the police was aware so what else could Rangers have done to stop him getting his ideal job away from football because his football career was finished. 

Informed other clubs and the football authorities? 

Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, The Dude said:

He'd not be the first coach to fall out the game in his 40s. 

What caused McCoists to end at a similar age? 

 

Dude, you have come up with some good stuff on occasions and, in your other persona, some contrarian bollocks in what appears to be an attempt to be controversial, relevant or just to needle.

But the above question is actually offensive. Trying to conflate a Rangers great's departure from football management (not from the game as he has a very high profile media career that you seem to be missing - and I don't recall Gordon Neely's top level media career - and also Ally has had several offers to return to management which he's declined for various reasons) and the thankful removal of a heinous piece of shit from the Scottish game is quite frankly shameful.

If I was Ally and I knew who you were, which he may well do, the next time I met you I'd put my toe through your scrotum.

For someone with an (understandable) aversion to get involved in discussions on CSA your contributions in the past few hours are bizarre.

Your comment on McCoist goes beyond bizarre to disgraceful imo

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


×
×
  • Create New...