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2 hours ago, piperpete said:

I haven’t been anywhere just recharging  for 55 😂👍👍

was up your way a couple of times in November but was no good getting in contact as standing or sitting outside in November didn’t appeal to me 

I have been taking it one game at a time, last night's result has made even me think it is over now. It will be a fantastic moment when it is over the line. :cup: 

If we ever get out of this bloody lock down then if you are over my way let me know mate. :cheers: 

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4 games from winning title, last 32 of Europa, Patterson and Bassey decide to go to a party. If they weren’t caught they’d have came into training with rest of squad on Monday/ Tuesday and then if it

It was last night & the rest of the squad are fine 

That's the post of a man who's just been furloughed by AVON .

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On reflection as much as I'm fucking furious with them, 4 of them are daft guys barely even 20. I think that maybe has to be taken in to account, likely they'll have to go out on loan and prove themselves but if they do I wouldn't be adverse to giving them another chance. Zungu can go though.

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The infamous five must be out of quarantine by now and probably have been to face the gaffer.

in my opinion, I think the SFA just want this to quietly go away. Suspending them opens a new can of worms to the Dubai shambles and the refs in Greece. Although in reference to the latter, they can't punish themselves, that could only come from nippy nic.

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10 hours ago, bluenoz said:

The infamous five must be out of quarantine by now and probably have been to face the gaffer.

in my opinion, I think the SFA just want this to quietly go away. Suspending them opens a new can of worms to the Dubai shambles and the refs in Greece. Although in reference to the latter, they can't punish themselves, that could only come from nippy nic.

It was around 10 days ago, so they're just coming to the end of isolation. I'd imagine with Antwerp looming, that takes the full priority for Gerrard.

We've suspended them for their isolation period, may extend it, I'd imagine the sfa will take action after we've dealt with them. I know the SFA are a shambles themselves right now but I can't see how they could not punish them giving all the previous bans handed out.

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53 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

It was around 10 days ago, so they're just coming to the end of isolation. I'd imagine with Antwerp looming, that takes the full priority for Gerrard.

We've suspended them for their isolation period, may extend it, I'd imagine the sfa will take action after we've dealt with them. I know the SFA are a shambles themselves right now but I can't see how they could not punish them giving all the previous bans handed out.

The sfa should be punishing themselves! 

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28 minutes ago, Brackley Bluenose said:

Would people still be saying give them another chance if they’d gone into training on the Monday and then the whole squad had to consequently isolate and the team be on the receiving end of whatever connotations that threw up.

That’s the bit I struggle to look beyond. 

This bit has irked me with everyone carrying on over the breach.

aye, they breached, and should have known better, given the previous failings. but the fact remains that they didn't. Whether they would have or not, they didn't. (Go into training and put the squad at risk)

What happened to Edmundson and JJ was always happening anyway, Edmundson because he was 4th or 5th choice and needed game time and tbf he done well getting a loan at a relatively big club down south in Derby. whether thats a shop window move or not, IDK. JJ has documented attitude problems and hasn't done enough to convince Gerrard he is worthy of the shirt. 

RE these 5 though, Zungu hasn't shown anywhere near enough and that must come from training as he was barely playing before this. Clearly the club has a lot of faith in NP, and to an extent Bassey as he was getting a decent amount of play time considering Barasic's form. 

I think NP and Bassey will be back after any suspensions are given out and they will have to do a lot to instill the trust and faith back into the manager but the carry on over "they could have done this" or "they might have done that" has been a bit ridiculous.

That and its coming out about a massive number of breaches across the UK in sporting terms, Birmingham City women and Leicester under 23s etc, Greenwood and Foden etc.

If they are good enough for rangers they'll stay and earn their place back into the squad, if they aren't good enough they'll be out on their ear and the breach will just be the nail in the coffin (Zungu)

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15 hours ago, J-Maestro said:

On reflection as much as I'm fucking furious with them, 4 of them are daft guys barely even 20. I think that maybe has to be taken in to account, likely they'll have to go out on loan and prove themselves but if they do I wouldn't be adverse to giving them another chance. Zungu can go though.

doesn't excuse them one fuckin bit - clowns

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14 minutes ago, stevemac said:

This bit has irked me with everyone carrying on over the breach.

aye, they breached, and should have known better, given the previous failings. but the fact remains that they didn't. Whether they would have or not, they didn't. (Go into training and put the squad at risk)

 

Ridiculous point in my eyes. You think they'd have gone in Monday morning first thing and said "By the way gaffer we had a little get together saturday night, we shouldn't really be in training today."

The truth is we fucking struck gold that the police were called and it became public knowledge. To suggest it's all OK because they never ended up going to training is laughable, they fucking would have done if they weren't caught! Think about the shitstorm that would have created. 

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2 minutes ago, Brackley Bluenose said:

Ridiculous point in my eyes. You think they'd have gone in Monday morning first thing and said "By the way gaffer we had a little get together saturday night, we shouldn't really be in training today."

The truth is we fucking struck gold that the police were called and it became public knowledge. To suggest it's all OK because they never ended up going to training is laughable, they fucking would have done if they weren't caught! Think about the shitstorm that would have created. 

BUT THEY DIDNT.  I am not suggesting its all ok because they will be fined, suspended and punished appropriately. You are right, it was a god send that police were involved though. 

All I am getting at is a lot of people lost their shit over ifs buts and maybes. 

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1 minute ago, stevemac said:

BUT THEY DIDNT.  I am not suggesting its all ok because they will be fined, suspended and punished appropriately. You are right, it was a god send that police were involved though. 

All I am getting at is a lot of people lost their shit over ifs buts and maybes. 

So what would your reaction have been had they have gone into training? So naive mate to look past that in my eyes, maybe I just have too much of a stubborn mentality. The fact they could have put us in a position where we would have been playing a B team in Europa league and league games is totally shit from them.

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Just now, Brackley Bluenose said:

So what would your reaction have been had they have gone into training? So naive mate to look past that in my eyes, maybe I just have too much of a stubborn mentality. The fact they could have put us in a position where we would have been playing a B team in Europa league and league games is totally shit from them.

I would have reacted like everyone else would have, wanted them sacked etc etc. But they didn't. They did a fucking stupid thing and got fined, and punished by the club and likely will be punished by the league. But they haven't put the squad at risk by going into training.

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2 minutes ago, stevemac said:

I would have reacted like everyone else would have, wanted them sacked etc etc. But they didn't. They did a fucking stupid thing and got fined, and punished by the club and likely will be punished by the league. But they haven't put the squad at risk by going into training.

Do you want them sacked now?

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2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Do you want them sacked now?

No. As I said, Zungu had done fuck all to show he was good enough to be a starter in our midfield anyway, and he's only here on loan so I think he will be away when his loan is up unless they recalled him early. But the others, once time is served on them with league suspensions, I have no issues with them fighting to earn a place in the squad. but they'll naturally have to work twice as hard as they did before to prove they are still worthy of the shirt. Same with Edmundson and Jones, I think if they both come back and screwed the nut and worked extremely hard I'd have no issues with them being in the team, I can't see it with Jones though tbh. 

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13 minutes ago, stevemac said:

BUT THEY DIDNT.  I am not suggesting its all ok because they will be fined, suspended and punished appropriately. You are right, it was a god send that police were involved though. 

All I am getting at is a lot of people lost their shit over ifs buts and maybes. 

They weren’t given a chance to go into training that’s why THEY DIDNT

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1 minute ago, TamCoopz said:

They weren’t given a chance to go into training that’s why THEY DIDNT

Exactly. So there is no reason to keep going on about what could have happened, fact is it didn't and they've been suspended and dealt with appropriately.

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6 minutes ago, TamCoopz said:

But it wasn’t their choice to not go into training so you’re missing the point

I am not missing the point. the point I am making is irrelevant as to the reason they didn't go to training, the fact remains they did not go and did not put any other players at risk as a close contact. The reason being the club told them to stay away while they investigated the incident. A lot of the anger from fans towards them IMO was based on IF they had gone into training and jeopardized the team. 

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11 minutes ago, stevemac said:

No. As I said, Zungu had done fuck all to show he was good enough to be a starter in our midfield anyway, and he's only here on loan so I think he will be away when his loan is up unless they recalled him early. But the others, once time is served on them with league suspensions, I have no issues with them fighting to earn a place in the squad. but they'll naturally have to work twice as hard as they did before to prove they are still worthy of the shirt. Same with Edmundson and Jones, I think if they both come back and screwed the nut and worked extremely hard I'd have no issues with them being in the team, I can't see it with Jones though tbh. 

So you don't want them sacked for the blatant breach, but if the polis hadn't intervened and they went into training ground and compounded their fuck up then you would have wanted them sacked?

You're excusing what they were capable and likely willing to do but didn't only because they were denied the chance. 

That's pretty absurd tbh.

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Just now, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

So you don't want them sacked for the blatant breach, but if the polis hadn't intervened and they went into training ground and compounded their fuck up then you would have wanted them sacked?

You're excusing what they were capable and likely willing to do but didn't only because they were denied the chance. 

That's pretty absurd tbh.

See in bold.

Not once have i excused what they've done, I fully expect them to get a reasonable (3-5 match) ban from the league, the maximum fine of wages we can give out and whatever other punishment the club sees fit to give. But they'll still be rangers players and I fully expect to see at least 2 of the 5 in a jersey again, quite possibly before the end of this season.

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5 minutes ago, TamCoopz said:

And they would have gone to training if they didn’t get caught, which is the issue most have. How can you even defend them? They didn’t give a fuck about what they were doing and would happily have strolled into training if they weren’t caught out 

Don't know how many more times Im going to have to say this. I am not defending them, but they didn't fucking stroll into training did they? So you can't punish them for potentially doing this that or the other, you punish them for the party and only the party. 

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