SeparateEntityMyArse 53,256 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, stevemac said: potentially or certainly suspended without pay, if they had got into training and had a positive result which then put the whole squad out. That would be a VERY different scenario though That's even more absurd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,256 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 53 minutes ago, stevemac said: I would have reacted like everyone else would have, wanted them sacked etc etc. But they didn't. They did a fucking stupid thing and got fined, and punished by the club and likely will be punished by the league. But they haven't put the squad at risk by going into training. 13 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Yet you would want them sacked IF they had got into training... 10 minutes ago, stevemac said: potentially or certainly suspended without pay, if they had got into training and had a positive result which then put the whole squad out. That would be a VERY different scenario though So is it sacked like every one else wanted, or the tiered system based on ramifications? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemac 4,972 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: So is it sacked like every one else wanted, or the tiered system based on ramifications? well clearly a punishment befitting the crime. you wouldn't get life in jail for beating someone up, but you would if you beat them to death wouldn't you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,256 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, stevemac said: well clearly a punishment befitting the crime. you wouldn't get life in jail for beating someone up, but you would if you beat them to death wouldn't you? This is more related to employment law and sporting protocols than criminal isn't it though. The only criminal law part is the fact they broke the law in the first place. But if you're suggesting criminally you'd face no punishment if you intended cimmiting a crime but were stopped before you carried it out then you're very much mistaken. Did you clarify when you would have wanted them sacked, as you said, or sacked only if a,b,c,and d had happened, as you said?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boybluesy 3,663 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 If these muppets had gone into training, would the whole squad have to have isolated for two weeks, would we be out of Europe, would we have lost 55, given our lead unlikely, but Europe potentially, and a lot of monies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,478 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: If they did it and took ownership and admitted their fuckup then you could have a case. But they fucked up and only stopped further fucking up as they were deprived the chance. Theres a huge difference. If your Mrs shagged someone and caught an std and would have shagged you had you not found out, is it OK to ignore the cheating and excuse her as you stopped her from passing the clap? 🤣 Superb analogy young man JCDBigBear and SeparateEntityMyArse 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu43rigger 327 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, TamCoopz said: They weren’t given a chance to go into training that’s why THEY DIDNT One of them still tried to turn up for training on the Monday and was turned away at the gates Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 33,994 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 35 minutes ago, Boybluesy said: If these muppets had gone into training, would the whole squad have to have isolated for two weeks, would we be out of Europe, would we have lost 55, given our lead unlikely, but Europe potentially, and a lot of monies. I don’t think they would have. They weren’t near a positive case, or had a positive case within them. There’s absolutely no basis for the whole squad having to isolate. The mechanism for isolation is if you’re in close contact with a positive test. Unless there’s a separate rule for football. Not defending them, but it’s over the top hyperbole about the whole squad being out. Even celtic who shared a plane with a Covid positive test only had 13 required to self isolate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 33,994 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, stevemac said: I am saying they don't deserve to be sacked because thats a fucking ridiculous attitude to take for a COVID breach, where many teams across the UK are dealing with players breaching, and yet nobody is suggesting they are sacked. Look at a Aubameyang (out getting tattoos) or Fodden (bringing girls back to the team hotel) and contrast the reactions of the FA, clubs and the press. stevemac 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, stu43rigger said: One of them still tried to turn up for training on the Monday and was turned away at the gates Surely not Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,256 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, Brackley Bluenose said: Superb analogy young man 😄👍 Brackley Bluenose 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu43rigger 327 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, TamCoopz said: Surely not Yup, and don’t think it would take a genius to guess which one TamCoopz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 33,994 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, stu43rigger said: Yup, and don’t think it would take a genius to guess which one Bet he’s got an afro of sorts. stu43rigger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu43rigger 327 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Bet he’s got an afro of sorts. Bingo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boybluesy 3,663 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 27 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: I don’t think they would have. They weren’t near a positive case, or had a positive case within them. There’s absolutely no basis for the whole squad having to isolate. The mechanism for isolation is if you’re in close contact with a positive test. Unless there’s a separate rule for football. Not defending them, but it’s over the top hyperbole about the whole squad being out. Even celtic who shared a plane with a Covid positive test only had 13 required to self isolate. Good points. Who is to say they weren't near a positive case though. The players get tested often enough but their girlfriends/partners don't. Who do girlfriends/partners come in contact with and have they been tested since charged. Why do the players need to self-isolate if they are negative. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 33,994 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Boybluesy said: Good points. Who is to say they weren't near a positive case though. The players get tested often enough but their girlfriends/partners don't. Who do girlfriends/partners come in contact with and have they been tested since charged. Why do the players need to self-isolate if they are negative. Rangers are keeping them away from the squad to prove a point, as far as I’m concerned - not because there’s an actual risk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boybluesy 3,663 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Just now, graeme_4 said: Rangers are keeping them away from the squad to prove a point, as far as I’m concerned - not because there’s an actual risk. Not so. Covid manifests itself some days after. I believe Ryan Christie had 3 negative tests and still had to self-isolate. Lennon (poor soul that he is) also had several negative tests and still had to self-isolate. Domthenbud 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,256 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, stu43rigger said: Bingo That's not his name, it's Zungu. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,763 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 39 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Rangers are keeping them away from the squad to prove a point, as far as I’m concerned - not because there’s an actual risk. I believe the 3 are back training today. There is also a video on the RFC web site today of the 3 apologising for their behaviour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jafrfc 614 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 If Gerrard and Wilson feel that they’ve dealt with the matter accordingly then I’m happy with whatever they’ve decided. Jasper Blues, Malkytfp1 and mark1963 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamMunny 3,181 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Sounds like he still has a future tbh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBF2 3,540 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Seen the video there, honestly comes across like a hostage plea video. Time to move on. I’m convinced that this is being treated differently to the JJ and GE incident though - think GE was unlucky to be caught in the crossfire of that one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds 1,329 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 He should have a future with us, chucking away talent and potential revenue, income and good players over this would be a bit dumb on our part. In Football, utterly right that Jordan Jones should be treated different to Patterson for instance, why, because one is shite and the other isn't Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross-Gazza genius 1,890 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Will be interesting to see all they views change from sack him to hopefully he's learned his lesson and move on. MasterD 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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