COVID Breach

[southcoastbear 1,639]

9 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said:

 

Fair point but think of the poor players imagine that hurtling toward you at speed , butt first.

[miracle 7,789]

One Fat Lady - 55.

[Hadron Collider 30,780]

2 hours ago, East Enclosure Row N said:

Private charter flight left Glasgow yesterday lunchtime for Brussels. Presumed this was us?

Everest and a couple of mates. 

[Brian Fantana 28,894]

can't wait for Lennon to bring this up in one of his press conferences.

[billscott 2,463]

1 hour ago, BlueboyG said:

I wish to fuck we would just let the gaffer deal with this and all of us focus on the game on Thursday. It's more important than this.

will gerrard not hold a press conference today ahead of tmors flight to brussels

[Robmc1 4,741]

1 hour ago, Valance1690 said:

If the players are suspended already (seems to be the case) and we're waiting on the SPFL's punishment or whatever, just come out and say that, draws a line under it!

Why should there be any SPFL punishment given or more importantly accepted, the precedent was set for the ‘self admitted’ Dubai breaches. 

[LochendBilly 8,410]

Maybe, the club are pissed off with the SFA etc due to the CO stuff. If they don't make any more statements then where do the SFA/SPFL get the info to punish the players?

Deal with internally and let the rest guess what happened is not a bad idea. Give them fuck all I say, corrupt bastards! Of course the culprits should be punished but why should we make it easy for the press and governing bodies?

[plumbGER 24,518]

Much does Jim spend on holidays per year?

[beararse 6,365]

15 hours ago, TamCoopz said:

@EverestGers is probably away to dip into his millions to buy the rights to the site and get us all kicked off 

He seems to have went AWOL....

probably just off on another holiday I suppose

[Valance1690 3,820]

1 minute ago, Robmc1 said:

Why should there be any SPFL punishment given or more importantly accepted, the precedent was set for the ‘self admitted’ Dubai breaches. 

The precedent was set with Edmundson/Jones, this is an almost identical situation & I suspect it'll be a similar 7 game ban for the players involved. (Something I hope we hammer home if they try to add anything extra) 

I get the point, the taigs did get off scot free basically for Dubai however in that instance the SPFL permitted them to go. It's like a murderer blaming the guy who gave him the gun...they were never going to come down hard on the taigs because they know they fucked up themselves even allowing it! 

 

 

[beararse 6,365]

2 hours ago, The Socrates. said:

Did Everest ever explain his millions then?

Think this might be him....a lot more handsome than I’d expected TBH

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/04/18/nigerian-prince-scams-still-rake-in-over-700000-dollars-a-year.html

[beararse 6,365]

48 minutes ago, DrLaudrup said:

Don’t forgot the dugs chasing a caravan or whatever that Portuguese prick said 

[OneDavidCooper 2,505]

Really saddened by this at such a wonderful time for our club. 

[the cry was no 3,027]

The level of media reporting on this is a red herring imo.

What we should be focussing on is what, if any, action the SFA/SPFL take.

As someone else suggested in the cases of Jones and Edmundson when we acted swiftly, suspended the players and brought it out in the open, the result was by far the harshest punishment dished out for Covid breeches and this highlights, again, the inconsistency that exists with the disciplinary system in Scotland.

Perhaps the delay is due to us deciding the best course of action that allows us to deal with this without giving the SFA/SPFL rope to hang us.

When the multiple Dubai breeches were acknowledged in the media and confirmed by Kennedy on the Saturday I'm sure our club and (everyone else) expected similar significant bans for the players involved. Our statement when Jones and Edmundson were banned for 7 games essentially stated that we accept this and note the precedent - 

"Rangers accepts the outcome of the Scottish FA judicial panel which has demonstrated the seriousness with which covid protocol breaches will be dealt with. This penalty is a reminder to all of the expectations upon football.

"Football is in a privileged position and we recognise the responsibility that we all must uphold within the national sport.

"The outcome of today’s hearing brings the standard and expectations set by the Scottish FA into sharp focus."

Two days laterTLB denied any wrongdoing and (this is the important bit imo) essentially stated that the photos from the bar and pool were taken without permission, this was a criminal offence in Dubai and imo basically warned the SFA/SPFL not to use this as evidence. 

5 weeks ago Maxwell confirmed the the SFA were looking into the breeches, since then there's been not a peep.

Either all breeches get treated the same or all get ignored, the double standards need to stop

Bolingoli - flies to Spain, returns, trains for 3 days, PLAYS off the bench on the Sunday ............ 5 games (2 of which are suspended)

Aberdeen players - 3 games (all suspended)

Dundee Utd Connoly - 2 games (suspended)

Griffiths party - "no biggie" TLB - where's that brush, can someone lift that carpet please

Dubai - 'we had a few minor breeches" JK, "naw we didnae, we dun nuffin wrong, we were exemplary" TLB - radio silence

Jones and Edmundson - 7 games, none suspended

No wonder we're biting our tongues

[stu43rigger 327]

10 minutes ago, Valance1690 said:

The precedent was set with Edmundson/Jones, this is an almost identical situation & I suspect it'll be a similar 7 game ban for the players involved. (Something I hope we hammer home if they try to add anything extra) 

I get the point, the taigs did get off scot free basically for Dubai however in that instance the SPFL permitted them to go. It's like a murderer blaming the guy who gave him the gun...they were never going to come down hard on the taigs because they know they fucked up themselves even allowing it! 

 

 

I don’t think the spfl  permitted them to go, they were going anyway regardless 

[Robmc1 4,741]

3 minutes ago, Valance1690 said:

The precedent was set with Edmundson/Jones, this is an almost identical situation & I suspect it'll be a similar 7 game ban for the players involved. (Something I hope we hammer home if they try to add anything extra) 

I get the point, the taigs did get off scot free basically for Dubai however in that instance the SPFL permitted them to go. It's like a murderer blaming the guy who gave him the gun...they were never going to come down hard on the taigs because they know they fucked up themselves even allowing it! 

 

 

Sorry mate, having permission to go from the SPFL does not equate to a free pass on the conduct of the club officials and players when they are there. There were a published ‘strict’ set of conduct guidelines for this trip and they were breached (that we know of) on numerous occasions. Shane Duffy also left their bubble, caught at least 1 chartered flight, did whatever he did prior to turning up to play in a match which their club had previously said he was ineligible to turn up for.

If they try to impose bans/ fines outwith any club discipline, they are effectively denying our club a use of resources they did not do to another club who effectively committed the same offence. They are no strangers to hypocrisy however this goes beyond under the table favouritism...

[EverestGers 748]

13 minutes ago, beararse said:

He seems to have went AWOL....

probably just off on another holiday I suppose

Still here pal just njoi’ing the barrage 😉🙀👍

[Bears r us 30,770]

53 minutes ago, Bad Robot said:

We’ve always said they’re the leaders of bs, pr and sweeping 🧹 so hats off to the club on this tact 😁

Indeed. 

[beararse 6,365]

Just now, EverestGers said:

Still here pal just njoi’ing the barrage 😉🙀👍

👍🏻

[Valance1690 3,820]

Just now, Robmc1 said:

Sorry mate, having permission to go from the SPFL does not equate to a free pass on the conduct of the club officials and players when they are there. There were a published ‘strict’ set of conduct guidelines for this trip and they were breached (that we know of) on numerous occasions. Shane Duffy also left their bubble, caught at least 1 chartered flight, did whatever he did prior to turning up to play in a match which their club had previously said he was ineligible to turn up for.

If they try to impose bans/ fines outwith any club discipline, they are effectively denying our club a use of resources they did not do to another club who effectively committed the same offence. They are no strangers to hypocrisy however this goes beyond under the table favouritism...

Aww I agree, they absolutely ran amok when they were over there, making an arse of the people who allowed them to go. That's even more reason as to why they weren't punished, the SPFL would rather it was forgotten about, they got the piss ripped right out them & it was easier to just brush it under the carpet and forget it ever happened.

Their Dubai fiasco is worse than players having a takeaway with their burds in a house, everybody knows that, both are breaking the rules but 1 definitely outweighs the other. The issue we'll have is the fact an almost identical situation already happened. Edmundson/Jones were at a small house party after a match, got caught by the plod/fined but they weren't around the main squad the next day as it was a day off, It's almost like for like what's happened this time!

It's not a fight we're going to win if we go down that road, if we can get away with the players being banned, that's the end of it & we move on then I'll take it in a heartbeat. They were very unlikely to be involved after this anyway, Gerrard wouldn't stand for it.

[dummiesoot 15,990]

Right, fuck reading the get at The Dude pish. The press have been consistent wrt covid, my issue is the sfa and spfl, Jones n edmundson broke the rules got a 7 game ban. Now going by many photos selli broke social distancing rules in dubai. Where are the 7 game bans for those players? Also talk of bans for our players in this latest escapade. 

 

Lack of consistency is a joke.

[the cry was no 3,027]

15 minutes ago, Valance1690 said:

The precedent was set with Edmundson/Jones, this is an almost identical situation & I suspect it'll be a similar 7 game ban for the players involved. (Something I hope we hammer home if they try to add anything extra) 

I get the point, the taigs did get off scot free basically for Dubai however in that instance the SPFL permitted them to go. It's like a murderer blaming the guy who gave him the gun...they were never going to come down hard on the taigs because they know they fucked up themselves even allowing it! 

 

 

Couldn't disagree more sorry Valance.

They were given permission to go, not permission to breech the rules and if anything they should have been above and beyond

They weren't allowed to use the bar area or the pool area (even if they had exclusive use of the facilities) in the same way that Jones and Edmundson weren't allowed to go to a party.

7 game bans v radio silence is inconsistent and wrong.

8-10 of their players have played in matches over the past 5 weeks when they should have been sitting in the stand suspended like Jones and Edmundson were.

Because the authorities gave them permission to go to Dubai doesn't mean they can do what the fuck they want when they're there

[BLUEDIGNITY 33,638]

2 hours ago, Bears r us said:

I have been thinking this morning that maybe you have got this right, the Club have decided to use the 'tarrier system' of putting out an initial short statement saying an investigation is being held and leave it at that, because it seems that is all you need to do and it is never mentioned again. Simples. 

Yup the old ‘ra or system and now adopted by the snp on a regular basis.

[Valance1690 3,820]

Just now, the cry was no said:

Couldn't disagree more sorry Valance.

They were given permission to go, not permission to breech the rules and if anything they should have been above and beyond

They weren't allowed to use the bar area or the pool area (even if they had exclusive use of the facilities) in the same way that Jones and Edmundson weren't allowed to go to a party.

7 game bans v radio silence is inconsistent and wrong.

8-10 of their players have played in matches over the past 5 weeks when they should have been sitting in the stand suspended like Jones and Edmundson were.

Because the authorities gave them permission to go to Dubai doesn't mean they can do what the fuck they want when they're there

Nobody is disputing that mate & they should've been punished in a similar way

The reason they weren't is its a PR nightmare for the SPFL to deal with after giving them permission to go. Not saying it's right but it's easier for them to let the media/government etc rip the taigs to shreds & keep themselves out of it instead of going in and banning half their squad for taking the piss on a trip they authorised!

This time, like Edmundson/Jones, its far far easier to show their 'authority' by banning a few players who have already been done by the police/suspended by the club. Us fighting it is going to do absolutely nothing except keep this going & cause a distraction when we have important games coming up. 

The fact we've not said anything since Sunday night makes me think even more that's the route the club will take, hammer the players involved & make sure the rest know the consequences. Forget about them & what they have/haven't done, only we can fuck things for ourselves now, regardless of what they do. 

[Bears r us 30,770]

14 minutes ago, BLUEDIGNITY said:

Yup the old ‘ra or system and now adopted by the snp on a regular basis.

The SNP are expects now that is for sure.