GetToTheChoppa 6,873 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Why is the club suspending our own players ? Granted,I am hammered,but what do we gain from this? Surely fine them,let them know they fucked up, and have them available now they have supposidly tested negative ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, GetToTheChoppa said: Why is the club suspending our own players ? Granted,I am hammered,but what do we gain from this? Surely fine them,let them know they fucked up, and have them available now they have supposidly tested negative ? Don’t think you can let them away with it when they will have been clearly warned after the Jones/edmundson saga. Tbf still don’t really know what’s happened so fuck knows mate 😂 GetToTheChoppa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,110 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, KingKirk said: The manager can sit there and point to the Griffiths House party that no one gave a fuck about at the time. Or Scotlands celebrations after qualifying Fuck the press don't give a fuck what they think. Hypocrites to a man Fucking he’ll mate 0-100mph! You’ve gone from questioning whether we should anything at all to that! No, just an in between will do and hypocrites or not they set the tone, can pressure governments - the last thing we need is them on our backs. TamCoopz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,110 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, bluenoz said: See this is where I disagree. Today, SSB made an apology (a feeble one) online about a complaint our board made to them. We could have went public and made a statement but we made a private complaint and kept it professional. It was SSB who went public with the apology. No one knows why the club remain silent (they will have a reason) on this but they were very adamant in the brief statement put out that there would be no further comment. The least statements the better imo. A statement is coming tomorrow whether we like it our not - whether that’s our manager having to deal with it in his press conference or we control it by releasing something beforehand for him to point to is yet to be known. As someone who works with the media, I’d say the second option far outweighs the first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Colin Traive said: The problem with getting the wrong end of the stick is that you feel obliged to stick with it even if it’s jaggy and a bit shitty. Pretty sure I never used my job as well to stick the boot into the club to anyone who will listen at any opportunity. What have I missed in the last 8 hours or so stuck at the hospital today?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,832 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Leeds_Bear said: A statement is coming tomorrow whether we like it our not - whether that’s our manager having to deal with it in his press conference or we control it by releasing something beforehand for him to point to is yet to be known. As someone who works with the media, I’d say the second option far outweighs the first. Gerrard is employed by the board. He is certainly not going to forward information against their wishes. The board said there will be no further comment. I take their word on that. Bad Robot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,461 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 So is Paterson not involved? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Just now, graeme_4 said: So is Paterson not involved? Nah I think he is still involved, I’m sure @eskbankloyalsaid this about maybe 15/20 mins ago, murzo, Bad Robot and graeme_4 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,633 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, TamCoopz said: What does it explain? That absolutely fuck all else will be said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,465 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: So is Paterson not involved? Pretty much the 5 posted about before are the 5. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco 1,439 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Gerrard will take one question about the subject and shut it down so bad that the journos will say no more. One of the things Gerrard is really good at is the press management. Those above him are fucking horrific though. he's been dealing with the English press for years - especially on international duty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,465 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Marco said: he's been dealing with the English press for years - especially on international duty. Remember his first few months in charge how many times he cringed at the questions put his way. Sure a few journos were replaced at our pressers for being so bad. Even today they are still asking the ridiculous. Tomorrow presser will be a one shot shutdown. Marco and scottyscott1963 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,148 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, bluenoz said: Gerrard is employed by the board. He is certainly not going to forward information against their wishes. The board said there will be no further comment. I take their word on that. I’m with you, say nothing to the press but just as long as they’re working behind the scene. Next press conference if asked say football only questions and dismiss and move to a different reporter if they ask bluenoz, Hadron Collider and scottyscott1963 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie1963 2,352 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Watch Gerrard presser every week. The standard of questioning is poor to desperate. It sounds like trainees in front of lecturers in a mock exam where they are nervous as hell. graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murzo 7,446 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, rabc10000 said: Pretty sure I never used my job as well to stick the boot into the club to anyone who will listen at any opportunity. What have I missed in the last 8 hours or so stuck at the hospital today?? How’s the wee yin doing? Bad Robot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhrfc 2,242 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, GetToTheChoppa said: Why is the club suspending our own players ? Granted,I am hammered,but what do we gain from this? Surely fine them,let them know they fucked up, and have them available now they have supposidly tested negative ? Because regardless of anyone’s views on punishment the silly cunts could infect the squad and compromise our push to 55 as well as Europe and The Cup. Imagine they returned to training having picked up COVID and infected the whole team. Valance1690 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dickie1963 said: Watch Gerrard presser every week. The standard of questioning is poor to desperate. It sounds like trainees in front of lecturers in a mock exam where they are nervous as hell. They are paint-by-numbers bullshit. Dickie1963 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,461 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: They are paint-by-numbers bullshit. Really is dug shit. Only decent football write up and analysis is through the Athletic. Standard of mainstream journalism is really bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueFrewExile 171 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, Leeds_Bear said: A statement is coming tomorrow whether we like it our not - whether that’s our manager having to deal with it in his press conference or we control it by releasing something beforehand for him to point to is yet to be known. And we say. The employees involved will isolate for 10 days, will be fined and strongly reminded of their responsibilities. We would expect the football authorities to also take action as they did with Jones and Edmundson. However subsequent Covid breaches have been ignored, so it isn't clear what the current situation is. Paisley Blue Loyal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Just now, graeme_4 said: Really is dug shit. Only decent football write up and analysis is through the Athletic. Standard of mainstream journalism is really bad. Clubs have as big a part to play in it tbh. Some clubs micro-manage pressers and insists only certain topics are covered and some managers don't like talking about anything other than the game. There's also certain questions that generally need to be hit in every presser like team news etc. With Rangers in particular it's become really hard to get any real substance to answers as David Graham limits who can ask Qs and how many and will try to move things on if he doesn't want someone asking a q. A lot of the best stuff comes when you can follow-up on initial questions and get some more depth to it. Athletic is somewhat of an unfair comparion to most MSM as they aren't having to produce 15+ pieces of content each day. I'd LOVE to be able to spend my week working on four or five pieces but a reliance on ad revenue means they need to hit a balance between clicks and quality/depth on content (I'll put out at least 10 articles five days a week, plus YouTube content) Having a paid subscriber base (much of which is us-based and couldn't give a shit less about SPFL) eases that considerably. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserJon 12,393 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, eskbankloyal said: Yes he was there Idiot, the player not you, to be clear 👍 1 hour ago, The Dude said: Cant wait to see staunchy try mute someone on Zoom for asking about it only for the next question to be about it. You really don't like him and this is before this situation 😄 Bad Robot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluenoz 30,832 Posted February 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, graeme_4 said: Really is dug shit. Only decent football write up and analysis is through the Athletic. Standard of mainstream journalism is really bad. Sports journalism in Scotland is at an all-time low. Leckie pens himself as a journalist yet writes to the equivalent of a seven year old. Jackson & Spiers are agitators in order to gain attention which makes them irrelevant. I could go on... A journalist is a reporter which means they garner information through at least two sources then write based on the information given. Writers have become far too lazy these days to investigate and would rather gain attention through controversial or sensational tweets. graeme_4, cstamomusa, Stoorie and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Just now, badjon said: Idiot, the player not you, to be clear 👍 You really don't like him and this is before this situation 😄 I wish I could say I was exaggerating when I say I hear something every single week that leaves me with my head in my hands. There are League One sides with volunteers running their PR/comms who do a better job. esquire8 and eskbankloyal 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, bluenoz said: Sports journalism in Scotland is at an all-time low. Leckie pens himself as a journalist yet writes to the equivalent of a seven year old. Jackson & Spiers are agitators in order to gain attention which makes them irrelevant. I could go on... A journalist is a reporter which means they garner information through at least two sources then write based on the information given. Writers have become far to lazy these days to investigate and would rather gain attention through controversial or sensational tweets. Two of the three are largely only columnists now. Their entire schtick is based around their opinion rather than reporting news. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,832 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: Two of the three are largely only columnists now. Their entire schtick is based around their opinion rather than reporting news. A columnist is a journalist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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