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The Newcastle thing is such a fucktards conclusion to come to I think, I said earlier he could easily go there and do well, but it was just to show his talent in reality he isn't going to go there. 

That is a casual observer of football looking at it and thinking they are a step in a managers career, anyone looking at in depth will see there is little CV growth in most EPL sides irrespective of how well you do, you sort of just get on the ride of average managers spinning around and around.

Seeing more and more of clubs at the top end wanting to be coached by people who have been around the top end of football and playing at elite levels, if it isn't Liverpool, I could only seeing Gerrard going to a side like a Roma or Dortmund for instance, top end stuff, dealing with pressure of winning leagues, think that was part of the appeal of his coming to us**

** I caveat those names by saying his progress keeps on the same trajectory, I do think he will be in the conversation of possible for some pretty high end teams in Europe now. 

 

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Stevie G is contracted to 2024. He has the champions  leauge and we have doubles and even trebles to look forward to. Our man loves a challenge.

Gerrard is a man of his word and sees things out. His playing career is testament to that.

Anyhow, let's  win 55, keep on thriving in Europe and win the Scottish cup and give Stevie some serious dosh to make an impact in the Champions Leauge. Exciting years ahead.

In summary.... Stevie is going nowhere!

 

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Let’s cut to the chase and sum up the broad reaction in England when Steven Gerrard lifts his first title, possibly as early as this weekend.

“It’s only Scotland.”

That’s the disrespectful tone celtic and Rangers managers have had to deal with for over 30 years.

Many outside the Glasgow bubble fail to grasp the stature of those clubs, how demanding and suffocating the pressure can be, and how challenging it is going head-to-head with your neighbours every year. The media coverage and scrutiny is intense. Unlike England - where there are several clubs sharing the limelight and a general acceptance you can have a good season without winning the title - for the Old Firm it’s all-or-nothing; win or bust.

Even those coaches who have been serial winners in Scotland have had to fight for credibility down south.

This is not just the tainted view of English supporters.

Collecting league titles in Scotland is no guarantee of securing one of our biggest jobs. Brendan Rodgers was given a brilliant opportunity at Leicester City, but he was still headhunted by a team seeking to get into the Champions League rather than established in it.

Martin O’Neill took on a comparable position when his next role after leaving celtic in 2005 was Aston Villa. But when Gordon Strachan and Neil Lennon left Scotland they joined Middlesbrough and Bolton Wanderers, both in the Championship at the time.

If Gerrard continues to win big in Scotland, it is sure to land him many Premier League job offers, with the implication that managing a mid-table team in England is more attractive than being Rangers or celtic coach.

I am not convinced that applies in Gerrard’s case.

There was a time when I might have gone along with the idea that Rangers is a good first stepping stone for my former Liverpool teammate, and he should have his eye on a swift Premier League return in readiness for an inevitable Anfield reunion later in his career.

Having seen what he is building at Rangers, I do not believe he has to leave Ibrox and prove himself anywhere else. Certainly not yet.

He has obviously fallen in love with the club and the city of Glasgow and looks to be settling in for the long haul.

Anyone who knows Stevie well need only look at his reaction against Livingston at half-time on Wednesday evening, when he was sent off for being livid at the decision not to award Alberto Morelos a penalty. (EDIT: For god sake Telegraph)

That’s how he is when dedicated to a cause. Fully committed. All in. Despite the title being done and dusted for weeks, every point matters. He has caught the Rangers bug, immersed in the club.

What's so impressive about Gerrard’s success is the circumstances and manner in which he has achieved it.

When he made the move to Scotland, it took guts. Whoever took on the Rangers job two-and-a-half years ago had to focus on an immediate objective of preventing celtic winning 10 titles in a row. Gerrard was going to be judged on that, not as a novice coach making his way.

With celtic settled under Rodgers at that time, and Rangers recovering from a prolonged era of instability, that was a massive ask for someone in their first major management job.

While Gerrard’s reputation was a help in securing the position - Rangers hired him because his name and global status add clout to wherever he works - it also increased the expectation and pressure upon him to instantly deliver. Sadly, in the cut-throat world of football, there are many waiting or even hoping you fall on your backside, resentful that such an esteemed position is given to a high-profile personality based on their playing career rather than coaching experience. There are many top-class players of Gerrard’s generation who have tried and struggled as a coach who will tell you that.

Gerrard had to overcome that cynicism, and although it is his domestic dominance which will bring the reward of his first silverware as a coach (still unbeaten in the league this season) his work in Europe will have caught the attention of those who were wondering what kind of manager he will become.

Since 2018 he has won 23 European games - one more than the legendary Walter Smith who was one win away from the Champions League final in 1993 and led Rangers to the Uefa Cup final in 2008. He is five short of a club record, reaping financial rewards from two campaigns in which Rangers qualified through the Europa League group stages, and with a good chance of beating Slavia Prague for a place in the quarter-final.

The European campaigns have been the bedrock of his reign, enabling him to fine-tune a style which takes plenty from what he learned under Rodgers and his brief time as youth coach under Jurgen Klopp - pressing high, keeping possession, always on the front foot. Europe has also raised much-needed cash to keep building the squad.

Rangers have given him the ideal platform to develop the winning habit as a manager, and can give him Champions League experience which will be invaluable for his long-term coaching career. Who else can offer him that at the moment? Certainly not with the full and vibrant support he will have when Champions League nights return to Ibrox next season, providing he can get through those notoriously tricky qualifying rounds.

The passion of the Rangers fans is a factor which cannot be ignored in keeping Gerrard in Scotland for a long time. As with Klopp’s relationship with The Kop, emotion in a stadium and affection from the supporters is a drug for a coach. Like Liverpool last season, something is missing when you win a title in lockdown. The chance to do it again when stadiums are full will drive Gerrard on next season because he knows what the atmosphere will be like when spectators return to acclaim a title-winning team.

When you have that level of trust, loyalty and adulation, it is not easily sacrificed for a club in the bottom half of the Premier League, where the ambition of mid-table safety would not put the same fire in his belly. A character like Gerrard will always live for trophies, and to feel he is somewhere where his highest ambitions are matched and can be realistically satisfied.

That’s good news for Rangers if they keep backing their man, and worrying for celtic. Gerrard is not the kind of character to rest on his laurels after this title. He will want to dominate Scottish football for several years and build a side capable of making headlines in the Champions League, which for obvious reasons is one of his biggest loves.

When Rangers were searching for the right man in 2018, they needed a personality with the clout, self-confidence and skill to take on a formidable opponent in Rodgers’ celtic. They needed someone who was prepared to work under the shadow of the 10-in-a-row obsession on the minds of both Glasgow clubs.

Gerrard has relished and overcome that challenge.

The biggest tribute you can pay him is it is now celtic who need to find someone of the required ilk to take on Gerrard.

Best of luck with that. There's a new king of Scottish football and he looks ready to reign for a while.

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5 minutes ago, its_an_extender said:

Let’s cut to the chase and sum up the broad reaction in England when Steven Gerrard lifts his first title, possibly as early as this weekend.

“It’s only Scotland.”

That’s the disrespectful tone celtic and Rangers managers have had to deal with for over 30 years.

Many outside the Glasgow bubble fail to grasp the stature of those clubs, how demanding and suffocating the pressure can be, and how challenging it is going head-to-head with your neighbours every year. The media coverage and scrutiny is intense. Unlike England - where there are several clubs sharing the limelight and a general acceptance you can have a good season without winning the title - for the Old Firm it’s all-or-nothing; win or bust.

Even those coaches who have been serial winners in Scotland have had to fight for credibility down south.

This is not just the tainted view of English supporters.

Collecting league titles in Scotland is no guarantee of securing one of our biggest jobs. Brendan Rodgers was given a brilliant opportunity at Leicester City, but he was still headhunted by a team seeking to get into the Champions League rather than established in it.

Martin O’Neill took on a comparable position when his next role after leaving celtic in 2005 was Aston Villa. But when Gordon Strachan and Neil Lennon left Scotland they joined Middlesbrough and Bolton Wanderers, both in the Championship at the time.

If Gerrard continues to win big in Scotland, it is sure to land him many Premier League job offers, with the implication that managing a mid-table team in England is more attractive than being Rangers or celtic coach.

I am not convinced that applies in Gerrard’s case.

There was a time when I might have gone along with the idea that Rangers is a good first stepping stone for my former Liverpool teammate, and he should have his eye on a swift Premier League return in readiness for an inevitable Anfield reunion later in his career.

Having seen what he is building at Rangers, I do not believe he has to leave Ibrox and prove himself anywhere else. Certainly not yet.

He has obviously fallen in love with the club and the city of Glasgow and looks to be settling in for the long haul.

Anyone who knows Stevie well need only look at his reaction against Livingston at half-time on Wednesday evening, when he was sent off for being livid at the decision not to award Alberto Morelos a penalty. (EDIT: For god sake Telegraph)

That’s how he is when dedicated to a cause. Fully committed. All in. Despite the title being done and dusted for weeks, every point matters. He has caught the Rangers bug, immersed in the club.

What's so impressive about Gerrard’s success is the circumstances and manner in which he has achieved it.

When he made the move to Scotland, it took guts. Whoever took on the Rangers job two-and-a-half years ago had to focus on an immediate objective of preventing celtic winning 10 titles in a row. Gerrard was going to be judged on that, not as a novice coach making his way.

With celtic settled under Rodgers at that time, and Rangers recovering from a prolonged era of instability, that was a massive ask for someone in their first major management job.

While Gerrard’s reputation was a help in securing the position - Rangers hired him because his name and global status add clout to wherever he works - it also increased the expectation and pressure upon him to instantly deliver. Sadly, in the cut-throat world of football, there are many waiting or even hoping you fall on your backside, resentful that such an esteemed position is given to a high-profile personality based on their playing career rather than coaching experience. There are many top-class players of Gerrard’s generation who have tried and struggled as a coach who will tell you that.

Gerrard had to overcome that cynicism, and although it is his domestic dominance which will bring the reward of his first silverware as a coach (still unbeaten in the league this season) his work in Europe will have caught the attention of those who were wondering what kind of manager he will become.

Since 2018 he has won 23 European games - one more than the legendary Walter Smith who was one win away from the Champions League final in 1993 and led Rangers to the Uefa Cup final in 2008. He is five short of a club record, reaping financial rewards from two campaigns in which Rangers qualified through the Europa League group stages, and with a good chance of beating Slavia Prague for a place in the quarter-final.

The European campaigns have been the bedrock of his reign, enabling him to fine-tune a style which takes plenty from what he learned under Rodgers and his brief time as youth coach under Jurgen Klopp - pressing high, keeping possession, always on the front foot. Europe has also raised much-needed cash to keep building the squad.

Rangers have given him the ideal platform to develop the winning habit as a manager, and can give him Champions League experience which will be invaluable for his long-term coaching career. Who else can offer him that at the moment? Certainly not with the full and vibrant support he will have when Champions League nights return to Ibrox next season, providing he can get through those notoriously tricky qualifying rounds.

The passion of the Rangers fans is a factor which cannot be ignored in keeping Gerrard in Scotland for a long time. As with Klopp’s relationship with The Kop, emotion in a stadium and affection from the supporters is a drug for a coach. Like Liverpool last season, something is missing when you win a title in lockdown. The chance to do it again when stadiums are full will drive Gerrard on next season because he knows what the atmosphere will be like when spectators return to acclaim a title-winning team.

When you have that level of trust, loyalty and adulation, it is not easily sacrificed for a club in the bottom half of the Premier League, where the ambition of mid-table safety would not put the same fire in his belly. A character like Gerrard will always live for trophies, and to feel he is somewhere where his highest ambitions are matched and can be realistically satisfied.

That’s good news for Rangers if they keep backing their man, and worrying for celtic. Gerrard is not the kind of character to rest on his laurels after this title. He will want to dominate Scottish football for several years and build a side capable of making headlines in the Champions League, which for obvious reasons is one of his biggest loves.

When Rangers were searching for the right man in 2018, they needed a personality with the clout, self-confidence and skill to take on a formidable opponent in Rodgers’ celtic. They needed someone who was prepared to work under the shadow of the 10-in-a-row obsession on the minds of both Glasgow clubs.

Gerrard has relished and overcome that challenge.

The biggest tribute you can pay him is it is now celtic who need to find someone of the required ilk to take on Gerrard.

Best of luck with that. There's a new king of Scottish football and he looks ready to reign for a while.

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55 minutes ago, Dennis Reynolds said:

The Newcastle thing is such a fucktards conclusion to come to I think, I said earlier he could easily go there and do well, but it was just to show his talent in reality he isn't going to go there. 

That is a casual observer of football looking at it and thinking they are a step in a managers career, anyone looking at in depth will see there is little CV growth in most EPL sides irrespective of how well you do, you sort of just get on the ride of average managers spinning around and around.

Seeing more and more of clubs at the top end wanting to be coached by people who have been around the top end of football and playing at elite levels, if it isn't Liverpool, I could only seeing Gerrard going to a side like a Roma or Dortmund for instance, top end stuff, dealing with pressure of winning leagues, think that was part of the appeal of his coming to us**

** I caveat those names by saying his progress keeps on the same trajectory, I do think he will be in the conversation of possible for some pretty high end teams in Europe now. 

 

Roma - top end, winning leagues.

Funniest thing I’ve ever read on this forum.

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