AGM_72 3,633 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Inigo said: Think we need better quality in midfield to partner Kamara. He's the one that steps it up at this level and looks better than the rest. When he doesn't look better than the rest of the midfield in these games, we'll be ready to compete at CL level. Similar up front. In too many of the EL games our number 10s have gone missing. Don't necessarily agree on the number 10s part of your post, but Kamara is generally the man who stands out in our midfield at this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRB_72 4,000 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Helander has played more CL games than anybody else in this squad apart from McGregor and Davis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanksRFC 3,869 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 If Kamara has a good Euros he will be offski which could be the main problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik2402 1,319 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 24 minutes ago, GOAT said: He’s not, far too slow for CL football. Myth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDB14 2,760 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Inigo said: Think we need better quality in midfield to partner Kamara. He's the one that steps it up at this level and looks better than the rest. When he doesn't look better than the rest of the midfield in these games, we'll be ready to compete at CL level. Similar up front. In too many of the EL games our number 10s have gone missing. Kent has been the difference in many of our Europa League games..... I think we need to temper our expectations. The reality is that we aren't going to win the CL. Getting to the groups is our goal and once we are there then we need a good draw, a bit of luck and to play to our maximum. If we do that then we can finish 2nd or 3rd. No point stressing too much about what happens when we get there. Just win the league and get there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, AGM_72 said: Don't necessarily agree on the number 10s part of your post, but Kamara is generally the man who stands out in our midfield at this level. Numerous games this season, especially away from home, Liege was one of them, I've been watching perplexed thinking 'we're winning this and our front 3 are shite'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMc 2,394 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I think this squad can get into the CL if fully fit and stays intact. If we want to actually compete in the CL and by that I mean pick up wins in the group stages then we arguably need to improve on most positions and not just CB. It's a totally different level which is hard to appreciate when we all know how big a club we are but it's the reality of modern football. I really think it's important to not forget what we've done with this group of players and it's dangerous to think one or two enhancements make us a CL quality side overnight. That's a dangerous position to put this squad in and sets them up for failure. Let's not forget where Gerrard has taken us from and then to with this group of players so for that reason I'm going to enjoy the moment then worry about the next stage of our progress in the months ahead. 55 and WATP! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, RDB14 said: Kent has been the difference in many of our Europa League games..... I think we need to temper our expectations. The reality is that we aren't going to win the CL. Getting to the groups is our goal and once we are there then we need a good draw, a bit of luck and to play to our maximum. If we do that then we can finish 2nd or 3rd. No point stressing too much about what happens when we get there. Just win the league and get there. I don't have massive expectations. I don't expect that we'll be able to find or afford many Kamaras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,208 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 31 minutes ago, Jeffrey said: We have a quality defender to partner Goldson but we dropped him tonight See as much as I agree with this, I don’t think that’s the point GOAT is making A different type of centre half beside Goldson who can ping the ball about and push on Bougherra style would do us wonders ...maybe not like Big Madjid actually, my heart would keel over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gascoigne8 3,378 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Need two centre halfs, Goldson is a disaster waiting to happen. Fuckin nowhere for the first goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,439 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Gascoigne8 said: Need two centre halfs, Goldson is a disaster waiting to happen. Fuckin nowhere for the first goal Holy jamolie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDB14 2,760 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Inigo said: I don't have massive expectations. I don't expect that we'll be able to find or afford many Kamaras. We have him tied down for 2 more years yet. Hopefully he signs an extension in the Summer, one of my favourite players for us. However, if he wont sign a new contract then we should consider offloading him in the Summer if there is interest, whilst he has 2 years left and we can get good value. He is a good player but midfielders are much more plentiful on the market than the Morelos / Kent's of the world which would be much harder to replace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,284 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 We have come some way and we are a good European side who can hold our own. At this point now it's just the need for extra bits of quailty that can take us up another level. Full confidence the structure we have in place will find these players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,894 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Inigo said: Think we need better quality in midfield to partner Kamara. He's the one that steps it up at this level and looks better than the rest. When he doesn't look better than the rest of the midfield in these games, we'll be ready to compete at CL level. Similar up front. In too many of the EL games our number 10s have gone missing. Kamara is head and shoulders above anyone else in squad at this level bar peak Morelos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDB14 2,760 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gascoigne8 said: Need two centre halfs, Goldson is a disaster waiting to happen. Fuckin nowhere for the first goal Nah. Good striker play running across the front, Goldson is arguably our most consistent player and we have conceded fuck all in the league. Patterson was caught in no mans land. Marking space. Should have been racing out to the man as soon as he got the ball to help out Arfield. If he couldn't do that then move back a bit so he can influence the cross. He was just left in a place he couldn't influence anything unless the cross was shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDB14 2,760 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Essandoh said: See as much as I agree with this, I don’t think that’s the point GOAT is making A different type of centre half beside Goldson who can ping the ball about and push on Bougherra style would do us wonders ...maybe not like Big Madjid actually, my heart would keel over We all want a Bougherra style centre back until he actually starts running out from the defence... then we are all swearing at the telly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,208 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, RDB14 said: We all want a Bougherra style centre back until he actually starts running out from the defence... then we are all swearing at the telly WHERE ARE YOU GAWN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,894 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, AGM_72 said: Don't necessarily agree on the number 10s part of your post, but Kamara is generally the man who stands out in our midfield at this level. In Prague, the 3 attacking players (Kent, Aribo and Hagi) were absolutely woeful. Tonight Kent was excellent in first half but Aribo and Arfield were non existent. We’re not good enough yet, at this level to be carrying 2/3 players. That’s why we went out. We lack quality in midfield and attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA1972 9,555 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 If we want to play CL football we need to do whatever it takes to keep Kamara and get someone of similar quality to play on the right side of the 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,594 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, Gascoigne8 said: Need two centre halfs, Goldson is a disaster waiting to happen. Fuckin nowhere for the first goal That's mental. Truly mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanVeenRangers 2,535 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Helander is good enough. He's never conceded a goal in the league ever 😄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanVeenRangers 2,535 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, Malkytfp1 said: That's mental. Truly mental. It is mate. The best defensive performance any of us will see in 1 season and some nutcase wants the POTY contender chucked out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the old guard 2,323 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 On tonight's evidence, and the considerable jump in class, none of our central defenders are good enough for the champions league, lack of pace is clear for all to see, distribution and composure not at that level either, stroll it domestically though, and this year that's all that matters imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThunder 8,453 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 45 minutes ago, GOAT said: He’s not, far too slow for CL football. Fast enough for Sweden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGM_72 3,633 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Inigo said: Numerous games this season, especially away from home, Liege was one of them, I've been watching perplexed thinking 'we're winning this and our front 3 are shite'. Tbf, I missed that one haha, but I'd have said Willem II away, Benfica away, Poznan away (even with rested players) and Antwerp away the front 3 or Morelos and one of/if not both of the 10s have been pretty effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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