NorthernLights 2,526 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 hours ago, They Gnu said: We are crying out for a midfield enforcer, someone who can tackle. That would be useful in Europe but against domestic teams we don’t really struggle getting the ball back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,775 Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 hours ago, McEwan's Lager said: A Barry Ferguson type player who can run box to box, be a playmaker and score a few goals a season doesn't even exist anymore. That British type player has been dead for a long time. Yeah pretty much. Since a midfield three became the go to system in the middle of the park the all round midfielder has gradually died out and what you tend to get now is midfield threes which contains one of each style of player - one who can hold, one who can run and one who is more attack minded - rather than the all rounders you got 15-20 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhrfc 2,242 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Fortunately SG is managing. A box to box midfielder who can do the lot. He knows more than any of us what is needed and if he can bring in a couple of midfielders with similar attributes to himself we will be doing just fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 8 hours ago, DBBTB said: Yeah pretty much. Since a midfield three became the go to system in the middle of the park the all round midfielder has gradually died out and what you tend to get now is midfield threes which contains one of each style of player - one who can hold, one who can run and one who is more attack minded - rather than the all rounders you got 15-20 years ago. Yeah the “all action” box-to-box player was so much more valuable when you had two in midfield because you could pair him with anyone depending on the opponent. With a three-man midfield playing like that would almost be a negative because you wouldn’t “specialise” in one of the three roles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRed 209 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 14 hours ago, McEwan's Lager said: A Barry Ferguson type player who can run box to box, be a playmaker and score a few goals a season doesn't even exist anymore. That British type player has been dead for a long time. It’s depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 3,680 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 A think kamara and Morelos will be sold so we will need a walk in replacement for both Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 If Jack is out for season then either Arfield or Zungu need to be playing from now on. The nonsense of Aribo and Hagi playing together in tougher matches needs to stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,141 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: If Jack is out for season then either Arfield or Zungu need to be playing from now on. The nonsense of Aribo and Hagi playing together in tougher matches needs to stop. Arfield. Zungu is not good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I see a lot of goodwill ebbing away from players in here already, the squad as a whole have given us great journey this season, whilst it is always important to strengthen when on top some of the flak directed is going slightly over the top....because we were below par yesterday their seems to be a couple of players getting it in the neck more than others Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 25 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: Arfield. Zungu is not good If it’s Arfield so be it but we need to play him in hope that he can get back to form. Can’t keep playing with just two midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,436 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, hammer93 said: I see a lot of goodwill ebbing away from players in here already, the squad as a whole have given us great journey this season, whilst it is always important to strengthen when on top some of the flak directed is going slightly over the top....because we were below par yesterday their seems to be a couple of players getting it in the neck more than others I don’t think it’s goodwill ebbing away. Everyone in this squad gets a form of legendary status forever after delivering 55. It is recognised that we need to strengthen though. We’ve been a bit run over the top in midfield in the last 2 OFs against a pretty poor celtic team, and similarly with Slavia. Jack is too injury prone, Davis and Arfield can’t go forever and Kamara is likely to move on. Add to that Aribo still hasn’t shown what he really can do in a big game at CM as yet. Best to build from a position of strength. Two CMs and an RAF of starting 11 quality required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,141 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: If it’s Arfield so be it but we need to play him in hope that he can get back to form. Can’t keep playing with just two midfielders. Should play Balogun in midfield to see if he’s good there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,820 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 36 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: If Jack is out for season then either Arfield or Zungu need to be playing from now on. The nonsense of Aribo and Hagi playing together in tougher matches needs to stop. You are sounding like a broken record. Whether you like it or not, Aribo & Hagi are better players than Arfield & Zungu all day long. Sure, Aribo hasn't been good lately but nowhere near as bad as you go on about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: I don’t think it’s goodwill ebbing away. Everyone in this squad gets a form of legendary status forever after delivering 55. It is recognised that we need to strengthen though. We’ve been a bit run over the top in midfield in the last 2 OFs against a pretty poor celtic team, and similarly with Slavia. Jack is too injury prone, Davis and Arfield can’t go forever and Kamara is likely to move on. Add to that Aribo still hasn’t shown what he really can do in a big game at CM as yet. Best to build from a position of strength. Two CMs and an RAF of starting 11 quality required. I think that's my point...the whole midfield is more or less getting written off I take your point but in the same token the team is still 33 unbeaten in the league and eventually lost the first game in 13 in Europe....it seriously can't be all bad going into next season, depending on who stays but for now i think we definitely need a creative centre midfielder and if Kamara goes another of his ilk....I've enjoyed Kamara running further up the pitch this season....those runs will be missed if he were to leave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoastbear 1,639 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Does the formation we play suit either Aribo or Hagi. Would they not be better playing in that no mans land in behind a front two and in between the opposition defence and midfield? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,820 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, southcoastbear said: Does the formation we play suit either Aribo or Hagi. Would they not be better playing in that no mans land in behind a front two and in between the opposition defence and midfield? This. If you are not going to utilize Aribo & Hagi in the right position, it will continue to be a problem. A Pedro Mendes type is needed. We need to splurge big at this position imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoastbear 1,639 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 48 minutes ago, bluenoz said: This. If you are not going to utilize Aribo & Hagi in the right position, it will continue to be a problem. A Pedro Mendes type is needed. We need to splurge big at this position imo. More like an Ian Ferguson for me and a striker but that's for another thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, bluenoz said: You are sounding like a broken record. Whether you like it or not, Aribo & Hagi are better players than Arfield & Zungu all day long. Sure, Aribo hasn't been good lately but nowhere near as bad as you go on about him. Hagi plays a different position to Arfield and Zungu so no idea what you’re on about. Aribo is fucking woeful in midfield.That’s two Old firm games he’s played in midfield and two of the most insipid performances you’re ever likely to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRed 209 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Do we have a shortlist of potential midfielders signings Steven Gerrard is looking at ? Realistically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,820 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 43 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Hagi plays a different position to Arfield and Zungu so no idea what you’re on about. Aribo is fucking woeful in midfield.That’s two Old firm games he’s played in midfield and two of the most insipid performances you’re ever likely to see. Without sounding like a broken record myself mate, neither Aribo or Hagi are played in the correct position imo. I have found myself disagreeing with Gerrard a lot lately. For me, either Roofe or Wright are the two right-hand forward options. Shoehorning a player just because he has talent doesn't work. But who am I to question team selections in an undefeated league campaign, huh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds 1,329 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Having seen the change in development in Jack since the coaching team arrived, when Jack was 26, I am pretty confident they can still find a few more levels in players like Aribo at 25 and Hagi 23, the ages they will reach over the course of next season. I would only expect us to make massive changes in midfield if Kamara leaves, wouldn't be shocked if Zungu has already been replaced with the addition of Ofoborh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefootwillie 1,518 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Ofoborh will not be a first team starter. He will be a work in progress. Just look at the number of games he has started and not at a high level. He must have been identified as having potential but definitely not a starter next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boybluesy 3,708 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 7 hours ago, STEPPS BOY said: If Jack is out for season then either Arfield or Zungu need to be playing from now on. The nonsense of Aribo and Hagi playing together in tougher matches needs to stop. Zungu’s pish though. Agree with Aribo and Hagi....both waste of a jersey yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,820 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, onefootwillie said: Ofoborh will not be a first team starter. He will be a work in progress. Just look at the number of games he has started and not at a high level. He must have been identified as having potential but definitely not a starter next season. Never seen him play but he can't get a game on loan at Wycombe the last I checked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues 375 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Give Zungu a chance now for a couple of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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