Hadron Collider 30,860 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, PM Boab said: He isn't a defensive midfielder But he would’ve shut down Slavia Prague apparently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,524 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Just now, Hadron Collider said: But he would’ve shut down Slavia Prague apparently. He would have certainly helped. Jasper Blues and graeme_4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlueSuedeSambas 53,775 Posted May 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, BridgeIsBlue said: We've managed perfectly fine without him this season, we need an absolute unit to play as a defensive midfielder and we ain't gonna get it with him. Absolute unit defensive midfielders is a bit of an old concept now though. Most of the best defensive midfielders in the world aren’t massive 6’2 6’3 destroyer type units like there were 10-15 years ago. The game has evolved since then and it’s generally a lot more technical now. ForeverAndEver, Ambrogio, 6superbarry6 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,159 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Absolute unit defensive midfielders is a bit of an old concept now though. Most of the best defensive midfielders in the world aren’t massive 6’2 6’3 destroyer type units like there were 10-15 years ago. The game has evolved since then and it’s generally a lot more technical now. Exactly, Ngolo Kante is probably the best at it in the world and he’s tiny, more about reading the game and making interceptions now than crunching tackles (most of which are illegal now anyway) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,230 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Hadron Collider said: That would be perfect if only he was fit. They think they’ve got to the bottom of the problem, so they believe he will be. He’s contributed enough to be given the chance to prove his fitness. 2 hours ago, Hadron Collider said: Who gets dropped to play him? Why are people so obsessed with this? We have a core of 14 players who all play depending on the the opposition. No one in that 14 is “dropped” if they play one week and not the next. OhW 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,860 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 49 minutes ago, SPWF said: They think they’ve got to the bottom of the problem, so they believe he will be. He’s contributed enough to be given the chance to prove his fitness. Why are people so obsessed with this? We have a core of 14 players who all play depending on the the opposition. No one in that 14 is “dropped” if they play one week and not the next. Our players seem to get better when they’re injured. There’s no obsession mate. How good is he? Don’t fucking know because he is always with doctors and physios. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,524 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said: Our players seem to get better when they’re injured. There’s no obsession mate. How good is he? Don’t fucking know because he is always with doctors and physios. If you don't know how good he is after 130 competitive appearances maybe you should take up another sport. glasgow argyle and Jasper Blues 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,860 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Just now, PM Boab said: If you don't know how good he is after 130 competitive appearances maybe you should take up another sport. 😂😂 you should vote for him for POTY. 😂😂 Rangers_no1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,524 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Hadron Collider said: 😂😂 you should vote for him for POTY. 😂😂 He's not nominated ya dafty Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,860 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, PM Boab said: He's not nominated ya dafty And the reason for that is? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,524 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said: And the reason for that is? We've had 4 better players than him over the course of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,860 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, PM Boab said: We've had 4 better players than him over the course of the season. We’ve had more than 4 better players than him over the course of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,524 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 33 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said: We’ve had more than 4 better players than him over the course of the season. Yeah, but that's the reason why he isn't nominated for POTY... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,230 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 5 hours ago, Hadron Collider said: Our players seem to get better when they’re injured. There’s no obsession mate. How good is he? Don’t fucking know because he is always with doctors and physios. I’m talking about the obsession with “dropping” players. We don’t have a settled 11 for players to be dropped. Bar a handful we rotate players based on that particular matches requirements. As for the how good is he statement... He’s played well over a hundred games for us. If you can’t tell how good, or bad even, he is you probably don’t know much about football. Fair enough if you just said you though he was shite, you’d still be wrong, but at least it’s an opinion. But saying he’s been too injured to make an assessment is a bizarre claim tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,455 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, SPWF said: I’m talking about the obsession with “dropping” players. We don’t have a settled 11 for players to be dropped. Bar a handful we rotate players based on that particular matches requirements. We do really. McGregor Tav Goldson Helander Barisic Davis Kamara Kent Morelos all as good as nailed on starters. Only very occasional rotation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 22 hours ago, graeme_4 said: We do really. McGregor Tav Goldson Helander Barisic Davis Kamara Kent Morelos all as good as nailed on starters. Only very occasional rotation. If Joe Aribo is fit, he almost always starts. You'd be surprised just how rarely Aribo is on the bench. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amokachi 3,007 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 46 minutes ago, The Dude said: If Joe Aribo is fit, he almost always starts. You'd be surprised just how rarely Aribo is on the bench. Works for me. Great asset on the pitch for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, Amokachi said: Works for me. Great asset on the pitch for us. Totally agree. It was something I looked at recently in relation to him and Hagi and was surprised at just how much Aribo starts. For me, that's 10 of the 11 nailed on starters each week. Amokachi 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amokachi 3,007 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Sometimes wonder if it’s his subdued & underwhelming personality that goes against him in the popularity stakes. Think he’ll keep improving & go on to be brilliant for us next season. It’s a Go For Joe. The Dude 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,860 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 On 07/05/2021 at 17:03, SPWF said: I’m talking about the obsession with “dropping” players. We don’t have a settled 11 for players to be dropped. Bar a handful we rotate players based on that particular matches requirements. As for the how good is he statement... He’s played well over a hundred games for us. If you can’t tell how good, or bad even, he is you probably don’t know much about football. Fair enough if you just said you though he was shite, you’d still be wrong, but at least it’s an opinion. But saying he’s been too injured to make an assessment is a bizarre claim tbh. On 07/05/2021 at 17:03, SPWF said: I’m talking about the obsession with “dropping” players. We don’t have a settled 11 for players to be dropped. Bar a handful we rotate players based on that particular matches requirements. As for the how good is he statement... He’s played well over a hundred games for us. If you can’t tell how good, or bad even, he is you probably don’t know much about football. Fair enough if you just said you though he was shite, you’d still be wrong, but at least it’s an opinion. But saying he’s been too injured to make an assessment is a bizarre claim tbh. So how good is he? Rate him for me because apparently I don’t know much about football as you say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,741 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 12 hours ago, The Dude said: Totally agree. It was something I looked at recently in relation to him and Hagi and was surprised at just how much Aribo starts. For me, that's 10 of the 11 nailed on starters each week. Aribo should never start in midfield if Jack is fit. The fact that he’s played so many games is a reflection of Jack’s injury (which we hope to have cured now) rather than outstanding performances from Aribo in the middle. No problem offering Aribo an opportunity to challenge Wright, Roofe, Hagi or Itten for the remaining place alongside Kent and Morelos who are certainties. But, in the midfield, if Jack is fit, Jack plays. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights 2,526 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 18 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: Aribo should never start in midfield if Jack is fit. The fact that he’s played so many games is a reflection of Jack’s injury (which we hope to have cured now) rather than outstanding performances from Aribo in the middle. No problem offering Aribo an opportunity to challenge Wright, Roofe, Hagi or Itten for the remaining place alongside Kent and Morelos who are certainties. But, in the midfield, if Jack is fit, Jack plays. I think Gerrard probably hoped that Zungu would offer a bit more than he has done. Aribo is one of the 10s really but had to drop deeper because we’re so light in the middle Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,741 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Just now, NorthernLights said: I think Gerrard probably hoped that Zungu would offer a bit more than he has done. Aribo is one of the 10s really but had to drop deeper because we’re so light in the middle And we got away with it most of the time. falkirkNS and NorthernLights 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,452 Posted May 9, 2021 Author Share Posted May 9, 2021 36 minutes ago, NorthernLights said: I think Gerrard probably hoped that Zungu would offer a bit more than he has done. Aribo is one of the 10s really but had to drop deeper because we’re so light in the middle A bit more? So 1/10 instead of 0/10? Boy was absolutely woeful. Probably more a -5/10 since the only thing he contributed was being the most senior player in that covid shite. Aribo came to us a CM but is clearly a 10 due to his lacking work rate. Colin Traive 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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