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Making a 400m loss should result in penalties not an invite to a lucrative new league. 

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10 minutes ago, stuart1994 said:

UEFA are not blameless in this but there the lesser of the two evils. 

Yeah end of they day they are still giving 3 free champions league spaces to english sides for no reason other than they finished 2nd, 3rd and 4th. Meanwhile celtic who won the league 9 times in a row had to go through qualifiers to get to the group stages. Something we need to do as well.

They have a big part in this and a reform of the champions league is needed. (Im aware of the 36 teams thing now) where free hand outs to incredible amounts of money is fair

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1 minute ago, stuart1994 said:

Probably City or Chelsea. Man United, Arsenal and Liverpool American owned so it would be right up there street and Daniel Levy would sell his gran for a cash grab. 

Could see it being City. Not as if they need the money 

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1 minute ago, stuart1994 said:

Probably City or Chelsea. Man United, Arsenal and Liverpool American owned so it would be right up there street and Daniel Levy would sell his gran for a cash grab. 

Yeah I think there's a good chance both those teams will pull out.

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9 minutes ago, stuart1994 said:

UEFA are not blameless in this but there the lesser of the two evils. 

They certainly arent blameless. For years they pandered to these cunts, giving them a bigger and bigger slice of the pie with more places for the "big 5  leagues" and allowed them to think that they were all  that mattered. Now the monster that they  have helped create has turned round to bite them and they are shitting it. Fuck them and fuck the ESL equally.

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36 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said:

The thing that's kinda churning my stomach just now is the "good guys". Uefa, Sky, presidents and former presidents who up until 2 days ago only cared about capital gain and couldn't give a fuck about Rangers now name checking us and all of a sudden concerned about the financial state of football and wages etc.

Jamie Carragher was refreshingly honest last night about the EPL breakaway and Sky being integral to it. For fans, it meant football went from terrestrial TV to pay to view. Sky's statement last night was noble on the surface but I think they also know their pockets aren't deep enough to win TV rights for the proposed ESL.

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I'm not really pissed at at all at Sky or even the EPL and where it now is. 

That is an organically grown league for the most part, English football have done well to monetize it's self around the world and the clubs (most of the larger clubs) had a pretty big global following for a long time, Man U and Liverpool for instance were pretty big before all this.

It also a league fundamentally built on the core and history of English football, the money stays within their system and any team could feasibly win their league - I would apply that to some extent to the CL as well.

This proposed breakaway is going to hawk a competition built on what  club like even Rangers have helped build and fundamentally stealing a competition we have helped build for their own wealth.

An Americanization of a football competition would never, ever work either - the notion this could be a league like the NBA or NFL is fucking daft, it would be Real Madrid, City, Barca and Man U as a pretty settled top 4 within a few years if they sides were well managed on the park 

 

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40 minutes ago, stuart1994 said:

Probably City or Chelsea. Man United, Arsenal and Liverpool American owned so it would be right up there street and Daniel Levy would sell his gran for a cash grab. 

Guy talking about it on sky sports news yesterday said it was city most likely to pull out. 

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7 minutes ago, Prso's headband said:

Hope teams across Europe boycott these cunts when they come to play. 
 

Be quite something if the whole football community pulled together and just stopped going to these clubs grounds

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Is that not the point? There is no chance of teams meeting them in Europe, we wont be playing in the same comp as them. We are beneath them in their opinion.

Regardless, even if we did play them and the fans boycotted, I dont think they would even notice never mind care.

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Have no idea how anybody could not have a dislike towards Sky or the EPL considering them and clubs like United whoring themselves out to glory hunters in Asia, Africa, America etc is the reason why Scottish football is where it is and the gap and standard between Scotland and England is as big as ever. TV money has been monopolised by Sky and has had a knock on affect with UEFA doing similar for greed and it just continues to make the big clubs richer and massive clubs like ourselves, Ajax etc get shafted whilst no hoppers like Sheffield United can spend hundreds of millions each.

 

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2 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said:

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Is that not the point? There is no chance of teams meeting them in Europe, we wont be playing in the same comp as them. We are beneath them in their opinion.

Regardless, even if we did play them and the fans boycotted, I dont think they would even notice never mind care.

I meant if it crumbles which is looking likely cause their might be a pull out from City or Chelsea 

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1 hour ago, Malkytfp1 said:

The thing that's kinda churning my stomach just now is the "good guys". Uefa, Sky, presidents and former presidents who up until 2 days ago only cared about capital gain and couldn't give a fuck about Rangers now name checking us and all of a sudden concerned about the financial state of football and wages etc.

Then again us and other clubs should be using it to make changes, it's swinging one way for too long.

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7 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said:

Have no idea how anybody could not have a dislike towards Sky or the EPL considering them and clubs like United whoring themselves out to glory hunters in Asia, Africa, America etc is the reason why Scottish football is where it is and the gap and standard between Scotland and England is as big as ever. TV money has been monopolised by Sky and has had a knock on affect with UEFA doing similar for greed and it just continues to make the big clubs richer and richer and massive clubs like ourselves, Ajax etc get shafted whilst no hoppers like Sheffield United can spend hundreds of millions each.

 

We were extremely instrumental through Murray and Ogilvie in starting this ball rolling back in the early 90s though alongside clubs like AC Milan.

Much of Murray's early reign we were actively investigating things like a Super League. We did things like complain about the three foreigner rule and the fact we had to qualify from Round 1 for the 93/94 league when we had done so well the year before. We actively sought out things like using a seeding system to qualify automatically for the group stages. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said:

We were extremely instrumental through Murray and Ogilvie in starting this ball rolling back in the early 90s though alongside clubs like AC Milan.

Much of Murray's early reign we were actively investigating things like a Super League. We did things like complain about the three foreigner rule and the fact we had to qualify from Round 1 for the 93/94 league when we had done so well the year before. We actively sought out things like using a seeding system to qualify automatically for the group stages. 

 

 

Did we ever push for a league with no relegation and handpicked clubs? I'm honestly still furious about it, I'd happily watch all these clubs kicked out of every competition.

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20 minutes ago, Prso's headband said:

Hope teams across Europe boycott these cunts when they come to play.

That's a really good idea.  If every team, at every level of football, signed on and announced that they would refuse to play them in future.  If you end up with hundreds of teams telling them to get to fuck, it kind of brings into focus who has the better game.  And all of those teams win solidarity with their own fans.

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3 minutes ago, blaudrup said:

That's a really good idea.  If every team, at every level of football, signed on and announced that they would refuse to play them in future.  If you end up with hundreds of teams telling them to get to fuck, it kind of brings into focus who has the better game.  And all of those teams win solidarity with their own fans.

Be even better if it all crumbles and every other team in their domestic leagues just boycotts the games against them. Fans, directors, chairmen etc. Just let them turn up to a soulless stadium like they wished for anyway 

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1 hour ago, Brackley said:

Hypocrit.

Didn't hear him spout that view when the "big" leagues got 4 teams automatically into the group stages when genuine champions of other leagues have to go through three or four qualifying rounds.

Do four automatically go in now?

I remember it was three and the fourth place team had to qualify....if so when did it change mate?

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