Willis 20,919 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Iakona said: Most of the fans who turn up on semi-final day aren't actually supporters of the club who are playing. It's a family day out/piss up for their local community, even for non football fans. Then you've got the gloryhunters who will tell you they are either Rangers or celtic fans on the other 364 days a year. Yet have a soft spot for their local team when it suits. I live in the Highlands now and the amount of people who claim to support Rangers and Inverness or celtic and Inverness is weird. (same with County) Aye Largs Thistle got to some final a few years back and it was played at Ibrox, most of the folk there had never been to a largs thisle game in their life Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nameless Ghoul 5,967 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Canabear said: My late Father said to me years ago , back in the 70's , that TV was ruining Football and the Football that was on TV then was nothing compared to what is on view now. I argued with him at the time as at that time games could be live on TV and the grounds were , for the most part , full. Different times now with far more revenue involved due to advertising , something that was taboo at that particular time re shirt sponsors and track side advertising being relatively new , and at the end of the day where does it end as all this is about is the Americanization of World Football due to plain Corporate greed. We are lucky as a club. Our fans will fill stadiums wherever we go. Other plastic clubs will basically look like they do now with tarp across the seats Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
East London Loyal 420 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Maybe a complete amalgamation of the English and Scottish leagues. That way Scottish football continues on and Rangers shackles are off. The lower the league, the more regional it becomes e.g., Conference north and south. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,136 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 6 hours ago, BillyG91 said: if those "big 6" english teams are kicked out the EPL then i wouldn't mind if a UK league was set up. scottish, english, welsh, and northern ireland teams. not us moving into the EPL. Perhaps would consist of: Rangers celtic Leceister Everton Southampton Newcastle Sheffield Linfield Coleraine and/or Glentoran The New Saints What a pile of shite that would be fs Iakona and JM1872 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 8 hours ago, The Dude said: That's not what their proposal is though. If six teams DO leave the PL, they'll look to promote six clubs from within. They won’t, they will need to change the product to attract relevant tv money Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights 2,526 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 The main problem with Scottish football is the lack of money in the domestic game. The league is just as competitive as the French and German leagues normally are but if you’re getting two million for winning it compared to 50 million (just throwing out numbers) then it becomes much more difficult to attract players who can compete in Europe Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryStevens02 148 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 I don’t see a U.K. League . My prediction is that even if this ESL does go ahead, the EPL or a hastily constructed replacement version of it, will go on as normal and include the six teams. Too many teams in the EPL which are, lets face it, non entities with small fanbases, are built on the TV money alone and they aren’t going to get that without games against those 6 teams. NorthernLights and Blue Avenger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,842 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 20 hours ago, Monkey Butler said: The clubs aren't physically moving anywhere and they can still go and support their team, it's just the opposition that's changing. That’s actually bollocks, this franchise style set up is geared up to let clubs move their sides. This is based on the NFL/NBA structure. Sides regularly get relocated to cities with bigger fan bases when it suits the owners. Somone like Man City, who are ultimately a club built on Middle Eastern Money, could very easily end up being based in UAE if that’s where their “future fans” stem from. Plus you’ve got the games played abroad e.g. NFL in London. Basically, the brand of these clubs becomes more important than the location, stadium, fans, history combined Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,359 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 16 hours ago, AlCapone said: They won’t, they will need to change the product to attract relevant tv money They couldnt revamp it anywhere near enough to cover the loss of tv revenue from the big 6, asian and yankee markets are where sky etc make their big bucks from these teams, we are massive but not a global scale like United, Liverpool etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,359 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, plymouthranger said: That’s actually bollocks, this franchise style set up is geared up to let clubs move their sides. This is based on the NFL/NBA structure. Sides regularly get relocated to cities with bigger fan bases when it suits the owners. Somone like Man City, who are ultimately a club built on Middle Eastern Money, could very easily end up being based in UAE if that’s where their “future fans” stem from. Plus you’ve got the games played abroad e.g. NFL in London. Basically, the brand of these clubs becomes more important than the location, stadium, fans, history combined They couldnt base them in the UAE, the logistics of flying to and from games weekly would take too much of a toll, they would ultimately stay in their cities but long gone would the days be of passionate away fans making the atmosphere in grounds, as flying away to foreign countries weekly or fortnightly would cripple most fans (not that the owners would care tbh) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said: They couldnt revamp it anywhere near enough to cover the loss of tv revenue from the big 6, asian and yankee markets are where sky etc make their big bucks from these teams, we are massive but not a global scale like United, Liverpool etc Never said they would revamp it to get back the lost revenue, they will need to revamp it to recover lost revenue Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said: They couldnt base them in the UAE, the logistics of flying to and from games weekly would take too much of a toll, they would ultimately stay in their cities but long gone would the days be of passionate away fans making the atmosphere in grounds, as flying away to foreign countries weekly or fortnightly would cripple most fans (not that the owners would care tbh) Nearly 6 hours to fly Boston to LA, just under 7 from the U.K. to the UAE, less from europe so no real difference Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,031 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 close thread 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanMK 4,616 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Don't like the idea of a British league. A British cup competition would be good though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 On 19/04/2021 at 15:45, Monkey Butler said: The clubs aren't physically moving anywhere and they can still go and support their team, it's just the opposition that's changing. In the short term yes, like the US though franchises will move around Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 On 20/04/2021 at 20:12, Bad Robot said: close thread 😂 Why? Do you Seriously think this is finished? Its only just begun, they will be back Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 22 hours ago, DeanMK said: Don't like the idea of a British league. A British cup competition would be good though. So currently the English teams don’t take their cups seriously and play weakened teams, are you saying Man U will change that due to the possibility of a home tie with Hearst or Falkirk? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,308 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, AlCapone said: So currently the English teams don’t take their cups seriously and play weakened teams, are you saying Man U will change that due to the possibility of a home tie with Hearst or Falkirk? They don't take it seriously but over the last decade the vast majority of semi and finals have been played out by the top 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelydan1690 20,228 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: They don't take it seriously but over the last decade the vast majority of semi and finals have been played out by the top 6 Can u post every game plus squads from last 10 years need proof ?there b teams are stronger than most teams ger4life_1872 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,031 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 2 hours ago, AlCapone said: Why? Do you Seriously think this is finished? Its only just begun, they will be back https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/sport/19250974.celtic-rangers-wanted-new-british-super-league-following-european-breakaway-collapse/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,610 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Two chances of this happening and both of them are fuck awe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoastbear 1,639 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Should get rid of the league cup and revamp it as a British cup and see how that's received. let's face it the premiership teams play second string teams until it's clear they are in with a good chance of winning it. I think top teams in England regard it more as an inconvenience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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