Fergie_6 1,078 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 13 hours ago, bluenoz said: I have seen so many amateurs from my own playing days to Rangers prospects who had so much potential but can't make it to the next stage. Gerrard will have seen him in training everyday and has come to this conclusion. Sad to see but it is the harsh reality of the trade. At least Jamie Barjonas got to live all of our dreams. Good luck to him. In today's game, you must be totally committed. Players like Gerg Docherty have to work so hard to make it and from all reports, Stephen Kelly is very dedicated. And then this morning I saw the Jason Cummings video. So much wasted talent and finished at 25. Hes hardly finished 🙈😂😂. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Nothing against the boy but not seeing where people are getting he's a good player from? Showed nothing any time he played for us bar a goal in a friendly. McEwan's Lager 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,225 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, plymouthranger said: I think that’s part of the problem, in hindsight it would have been better for him to go out and get game time for the last 2 years, but he was needed as back up for the back ups. That’s probably hindered his progress He has been on loan at Raith, Partick, and Ayr without making much impression so maybe lower Scottish Championship or League 1 could be his level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRFC96 75 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 I Never seen anything special about the boy. Happens unfortunately but good luck to him, hope he finds a decent club soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Brother 1,115 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 5 hours ago, RFC55 said: Some people are fucking idiots He didn’t give it his best shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,775 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Blues Brother said: He didn’t give it his best shot. How do you know that? You can get your hardest, but hard work will only take you so far in a game that also requires talent. If you aren’t good enough then you aren’t good enough. It doesn’t mean you haven’t given it your best shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds 1,329 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Barjonas, Beerman, Bates all from that weirdo period when Pedro decided he would try and fob people off for a few weeks by claiming to be a manager who gives youth a chance, despite all evidence suggesting the players he was playing weren't very good. Weird, weird times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 19 minutes ago, Blues Brother said: He didn’t give it his best shot. Based on...? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,522 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 53 minutes ago, DBBTB said: How do you know that? You can get your hardest, but hard work will only take you so far in a game that also requires talent. If you aren’t good enough then you aren’t good enough. It doesn’t mean you haven’t given it your best shot. He may be talking about Cummings rather than Barjonas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,775 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 29 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said: He may be talking about Cummings rather than Barjonas? Even then did he really not try his best? He had a decent loan spell with us in a stinking team, under a stinking manager and was never brought back. Personally speaking, I think if Cummings has stayed under Gerrard he would have ended up being incredible for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,522 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, DBBTB said: Even then did he really not try his best? He had a decent loan spell with us in a stinking team, under a stinking manager and was never brought back. Personally speaking, I think if Cummings has stayed under Gerrard he would have ended up being incredible for us. There was some chat at the time that his attitude was poor. Jimmy Nicholl gave an interview on Rock Sport about a player that he had a run in with over application in training who he felt was wasting his ability. Was highly speculated on at the time he was referring to Cummings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights 2,526 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Not that much of a surprise. 22 and on loan at Ayr. If he keeps his head down he could definitely find himself back in the top division but been clear for a while he wasn’t going to make it with us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatasauce 1,253 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 8 hours ago, .Williamson. said: Patterson already is good enough to play for us. If he keeps developing at the rate he is he will be moving to a much better league in no time Listen mate he looks an outstanding prospect and I’ve yet to see him have a bad game, but it happens to them all, and couple of bad games as a young boy and you can find yourself back to square 1. put it this way if he stops developing he WONT make it at us, if he keeps developing, of course he could move to a better league but it won’t be for a long time yet IMO so plenty of time to see if he comes to fruition and if he outgrows the league (big statement to make) then he goes an we get a big fee, win win for everybody Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoastbear 1,639 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Hope the lad can develop at another club with some 1st team game time. He needs to be careful what decision he makes for his next move and make sure there is some decent coaching for him to progress. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,177 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 57 minutes ago, Tomatasauce said: Listen mate he looks an outstanding prospect and I’ve yet to see him have a bad game, but it happens to them all, and couple of bad games as a young boy and you can find yourself back to square 1. put it this way if he stops developing he WONT make it at us, if he keeps developing, of course he could move to a better league but it won’t be for a long time yet IMO so plenty of time to see if he comes to fruition and if he outgrows the league (big statement to make) then he goes an we get a big fee, win win for everybody What are you talking about? We have already reached a stage in his development where he can easily step in for Tav. People were literally debating what we do next season when both are fit because Patterson is too good to sit on the bench. TamCoopz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Tomatasauce said: Listen mate he looks an outstanding prospect and I’ve yet to see him have a bad game, but it happens to them all, and couple of bad games as a young boy and you can find yourself back to square 1. put it this way if he stops developing he WONT make it at us, if he keeps developing, of course he could move to a better league but it won’t be for a long time yet IMO so plenty of time to see if he comes to fruition and if he outgrows the league (big statement to make) then he goes an we get a big fee, win win for everybody Patterson is already at a decent level and will improve so not sure why he’s being discussed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatasauce 1,253 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: What are you talking about? We have already reached a stage in his development where he can easily step in for Tav. People were literally debating what we do next season when both are fit because Patterson is too good to sit on the bench. He’s played a handful of games, and not had a bad one yet, we agree on that, but trust me, gerrard isn’t planning to sell tav anytime soon because we have Patterson It’s not Patterson is too good for the bench mate have a word with yourself ffs, but it could stifle his development, if he is kept on the bench next year, there’s a difference We have the best right back in the league and it’s not Patterson, I wouldn’t even mind the statement we have the best young rb in the league to cover for the main man but if he goes anywhere we won’t have that, it’s a hard one with Patterson due to his level of promise but I’d rather he was playing second fiddle to tav just so we have him if we need him Drunk and disorderly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatasauce 1,253 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, TamCoopz said: Patterson is already at a decent level and will improve so not sure why he’s being discussed That’s not the issue mate the tread kinda went off topic, I compared the difference to the obvious talent between someone like barjonas compared to a more noticeable talent like Patterson TamCoopz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,418 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, Tomatasauce said: He’s played a handful of games, and not had a bad one yet, we agree on that, but trust me, gerrard isn’t planning to sell tav anytime soon because we have Patterson It’s not Patterson is too good for the bench mate have a word with yourself ffs, but it could stifle his development, if he is kept on the bench next year, there’s a difference We have the best right back in the league and it’s not Patterson, I wouldn’t even mind the statement we have the best young rb in the league to cover for the main man but if he goes anywhere we won’t have that, it’s a hard one with Patterson due to his level of promise but I’d rather he was playing second fiddle to tav just so we have him if we need him Some were saying Patterson was better than Tavs last season. Crazy talk. He is a great back up though. He will get game time through squad rotation playing for Scotland and in the cups. We need at least two players for every position. Loaning Patterson out to get him game time would be an act of extreme folly. Tomatasauce 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,842 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Drunk and disorderly. said: Some were saying Patterson was better than Tavs last season. Crazy talk. He is a great back up though. He will get game time through squad rotation playing for Scotland and in the cups. We need at least two players for every position. Loaning Patterson out to get him game time would be an act of extreme folly. Wee man will end up a star but he's not at tavs level now. Mind mate cunts had gasporroto at elite level on here esquire8 and Drunk and disorderly. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,465 Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, RFC55 said: Wee man will end up a star but he's not at tavs level now. Mind mate cunts had gasporroto at elite level on here Fucking dark days them. Crazy to think he is retired at the old age of 25. Drunk and disorderly. and RFC55 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetToTheChoppa 6,873 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Signed for Kelty Hearts. NorthernLights and esquire8 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,465 Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, GetToTheChoppa said: Signed for Kelty Hearts. Good luck to him. Thomson is a good coach that I expect will have a good managerial career. Ayrshire Blue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,842 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 He will be away from.them in 6months to a year. Far too good for that level ayrshireranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raligt 2,541 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Kelty will win that league at a canter imo GetToTheChoppa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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