Heshootshescores 1,904 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 hour ago, maverick1200 said: Is anyone surprised? Although his raise through the ranks is suspect,nothing can be done until he fails a test. A lot of sports can't. It seems the cheats are way in front of testing at the moment. At least with cycling they have passports so abnormal levels show. There's strong arguments for keeping samples for major event winners for 20 years or so to give science a chance to catch up with the cheats. It would also lend validation to truly exceptional performances, which pretty much everyone assumes must be down to drugs these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclovin9091 1,388 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 30 minutes ago, Heshootshescores said: There's strong arguments for keeping samples for major event winners for 20 years or so to give science a chance to catch up with the cheats. It would also lend validation to truly exceptional performances, which pretty much everyone assumes must be down to drugs these days. Not so sure that would be fair and accurate. Take the Froome salbutamol (asthma meds) case. 20 years ago it may not have been able to be 100% confirmed that if you don't have asthma, then taking salbutamol will not give you any performance gain. Resulting in him being kicked off the tour for "cheating" When in reality if you don't have asthma and use salbutamol it's effectively just a placebo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,860 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 2 hours ago, TheKingObv said: As suspicious as that link may seem, nothing will happen until he fails a drug test. And I'm fairly sure he won't (not saying he isn't juicing, but he probs won't get caught if he is). Fair point mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,860 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 6 hours ago, J-Maestro said: Wasn't he barely in the top 40 runners last year now running away with Olympic Gold too? I believe that is correct. 🤔 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick1200 2,828 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Heshootshescores said: There's strong arguments for keeping samples for major event winners for 20 years or so to give science a chance to catch up with the cheats. It would also lend validation to truly exceptional performances, which pretty much everyone assumes must be down to drugs these days. I thought they do for the medalists in the Olympics. I'm sure some athletes have already been caught years after. My memory could be playing tricks on me though. I'd be testing Carl Lewis samples, he was definitely on something. Heshootshescores 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick1200 2,828 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 38 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said: I believe that is correct. 🤔 Yeah it's true, the turnaround is because now he is solely focusing on the 100m. Could be true, could be bollocks. Its sad that every good sporting achievement is questioned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willis 20,919 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Anyone see the horse refusing to jump and the lassie having a wee tantrum? Apologies for the link to the bullshit vegan channel but I couldn't find a better video Also apparently her coach got kicked out cause he punched the horse after Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,639 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 07/08/2021 at 11:07, maverick1200 said: Yeah it's true, the turnaround is because now he is solely focusing on the 100m. Could be true, could be bollocks. Its sad that every good sporting achievement is questioned. Ultimately this. As a long jumper he was probably doing sprint training 2x a week max. Now obviously as a sprinter this is now 4 or 5 times a week. Big difference. Impossible to say whether it's legit but on the balance of probability there's a good chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,820 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 ayrshireranger, BlueAvenger and Hadron Collider 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,140 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 On 07/08/2021 at 11:04, maverick1200 said: I thought they do for the medalists in the Olympics. I'm sure some athletes have already been caught years after. My memory could be playing tricks on me though. I'd be testing Carl Lewis samples, he was definitely on something. I think only 2 of the 1988 100m final weren’t at it - Smith and da Silva. ayrshireranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrshireranger 8,053 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 On 07/08/2021 at 11:04, maverick1200 said: I thought they do for the medalists in the Olympics. I'm sure some athletes have already been caught years after. My memory could be playing tricks on me though. I'd be testing Carl Lewis samples, he was definitely on something. Lewis's samples went missing 'back in the day', how strange........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick1200 2,828 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, ayrshireranger said: Lewis's samples went missing 'back in the day', how strange........... Did they? Cheating bastards and the US complained about Russia's doping. They are just pissed off they got away with it for so long. ayrshireranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,148 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Did krankie ever congratulate TeamGB on their medals haul? ayrshireranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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