BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: I actually have a lot of faith in Goldson mate. He does however have that 2020 Goldson in him which is a concern. He's not good enough for European football. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 26,148 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Some absolutely wild takes being posted in this thread Never change, RM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Finished 1-1 in Greece. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,110 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1-0 down at half time, plenty of time to turn this one around. Early goal will do the trick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 We were worse in Russia than we were tonight We definitely weren't good but barring a mental 60 seconds we were the better team over 90 minutes Massive overreaction Billy1984 and J-Maestro 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just now, The Specky Liar said: We were worse in Russia than we were tonight We definitely weren't good but barring a mental 60 seconds we were the better team over 90 minutes Massive overreaction Wouldn't say we were the better side over the 90,last 20 minutes we started to come into it more. That midfield was chronic. OrangeRab and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,248 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: He's not good enough for European football. He would cost £10m, you expect to get two for that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: Yup If he's really over his injury problems he will be a starter in every big game Our strongest midfield is still Jack,Davis,Kamara. stuart1994 and OrangeRab 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Wouldn't say we were the better side over the 90,last 20 minutes we started to come into it more. That midfield was chronic. Over the course of the game I think we were easily the better team Lundstram was poor, Arfield got into a lot of good areas but end product was poor and Davis was fine lerxst 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearInTheToon 1,577 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Win the league this season and I'd go out and spend £10m on two centre backs to take us to the level we want to be at. I don’t actually think it’s the CBs that we need to replace (yes, I know Goldson wasn’t at his best tonight). It’s midfield and I think part of the CBs issue tonight was the midfield we’re all over the place - esp Lundstram. Their touch, control and calmness was seriously lacking. That’s where I’d be spending the big money. Think we need a proper enforcer and someone with a wider range of passing (which even Kamara is really weak on, too). lerxst 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: It's the manner of how we concede too. Tonight was completely avoidable and was mostly down to us not coming out the traps. We didn't start he second half at all. We actually we're in control first half and looked defensively stable. Our defending at cross balls is terrible. Amateurish even. BridgeIsBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 minute ago, STEPPS BOY said: Our strongest midfield is still Jack,Davis,Kamara. In games like tonight 100% When everyone's fit we have options to mix it up depending on opponents. I know he wasn't at his best tonight but for games against the shite at Ibrox I'd have Arfield in if we're going play with a midfield 3. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just now, BearInTheToon said: I don’t actually think it’s the CBs that we need to replace (yes, I know Goldson wasn’t at his best tonight). It’s midfield and I think part of the CBs issue tonight was the midfield we’re all over the place - esp Lundstram. Their touch, control and calmness was seriously lacking. That’s where I’d be spending the big money. Think we need a proper enforcer and someone with a wider range of passing (which even Kamara is really weak on, too). As @STEPPS BOY said, we've conceded 2 goals a game In Europe on too many occasions, the system we play with roaming fullbacks is absolutely fine for domestic level but on the continent against better sides we get cut open far too easily and concede poor goals. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 minute ago, The Specky Liar said: In games like tonight 100% When everyone's fit we have options to mix it up depending on opponents. I know he wasn't at his best tonight but for games against the shite at Ibrox I'd have Arfield in if we're going play with a midfield 3. I’m a firm believer in Horses for courses but that’s the 3 for European games. I’ve said before too, even games like Saturday against Livi is there really a need for Davis and Kamara together. BridgeIsBlue and The Specky Forum Organiser 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearInTheToon 1,577 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: As @STEPPS BOY said, we've conceded 2 goals a game In Europe on too many occasions, the system we play with roaming fullbacks is absolutely fine for domestic level but on the continent against better sides we get cut open far too easily and concede poor goals. Yeah, but mate, both of our CBs ARE £10m rated defenders. That’s what £10m would essentially get you. Plus, defenders aren’t automatically the ones at fault when goals are conceded. Think about Benfica: Arfield gives the ball away and then they cut through our midfield with a pass because Davis is out of position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,211 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 31 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: It’s not an individual thing it’s as a team. We miss a fully fit Ryan Jack massively. There is no-one who properly covers Jack's absence. I thought Lundstrum might but he offers nowhere near the level of defensive intensity that Jack does. Without that the midfield isn't truly balanced. I hope when he's back that he stays fit. jintybear, Bears r us and HG5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThunder 8,453 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Check these BBC stats - someone has just looked at the score and put stuff up based on that! 😝 No corners, no fouls lmao HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsey 1,540 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 We were poor but Malmo weren't any good. It reminded me a bit of the Scum's matches against the Danes. No much quality on show at all. I think we were fairly comfortable without playing well and that mental 2 minutes was horrendous but we still never gave up and got something out of it at least. Get an early goal in the return and I think it'll be comfortable but expect Malmo to defend deep. I expected it a bit but I wish they had VAR in these rounds and that it could stop half these diving cunts. Any touch and they are down like they've been shot moaning at the ref for bookings. I thought Itten did well but he could have done Sakala up there with him tonight. He was holding the ball well and creating space, I just think Sakala could have had a field day in behind. Barisic, Lundstram, Goldson, Arfield (Kent and Tav at times) looked miles off it as well. falkirkNS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Beast said: There is no-one who properly covers Jack's absence. I thought Lundstrum might but he offers nowhere near the level of defensive intensity that Jack does. Without that the midfield isn't truly balanced. I hope when he's back that he stays fit. Tbf to Lundstram he’s probably having to learn the role as mibbe more used to being a box to box midfielder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisWATP 297 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Simply don’t think we looked match sharp at all, but I’m confident we can do the job on Tuesday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart1994 4,302 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Agree with how much we miss Jack in these games, that’s the last five in Europe he’s missed and he’s a massive miss. BlueAvenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,832 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 The problem for me wasn't so much that Lundstram & Arfield (ran his balls off) were poor but I thought before we kicked a ball that a trio of Lundstram/Davis/Arfield was wrong. I know we had no other choice but there is not enough forward passing from those three. I don't think Malmo are getting enough credit. I've never seen us so ineffective against the press, especially in the second-half. They found ways to separate Goldson/Helander and when Tav is under pressure, he is never at his best. If they play like that again, they may score but I think they will set up more defensively which plays into our hand. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superallysbears 7,580 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Fucking hell, the two at the back picked some game to have a stinker in, been along time since we were this bad at the back, thank fuck for the goal, hopefully back at Ibrox we can do ourselves justice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,211 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Tbf to Lundstram he’s probably having to learn the role as mibbe more used to being a box to box midfielder. True and it's early to make judgements but based on the evidence so far I'd want Jack back in the team over Lundstram. lerxst 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,211 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 minute ago, superallysbears said: Fucking hell, the two at the back picked some game to have a stinker in, been along time since we were this bad at the back, thank fuck for the goal, hopefully back at Ibrox we can do ourselves justice. Tbf on Helander I don't think he was all that bad. Not great but probably the best of the back four. Tav and Goldson had shockers, right back to the error ridden performances of 2 and 3 seasons ago. As for Barasic, for all his crossing and overlaps, I can't remember the last time he put in a top class defensive performance. HG5, Drunk and disorderly., GA1972 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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