geneva_ger 9,318 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Bad Robot said: You got the links https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/celtcs-racism-problem-and-the-scottish-media-and-political-silence.176192/unread Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneva_ger 9,318 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Bad Robot said: You got the links https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/celtcs-racism-problem-and-the-scottish-media-and-political-silence.176192/unread https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/celtic-fans-violent-racist-sectarian.165006/ Bad Robot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneva_ger 9,318 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Bad Robot said: You got the links https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/celtcs-racism-problem-and-the-scottish-media-and-political-silence.176192/unread https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/celtic-fans-violent-racist-sectarian.165006/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,138 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, geneva_ger said: https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/celtcs-racism-problem-and-the-scottish-media-and-political-silence.176192/unread https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/celtic-fans-violent-racist-sectarian.165006/ Cheers my man 👏🏻👏🏻 geneva_ger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thermopylae 15,286 Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 I'm always surprised how many even consider voting for them. You only have to look at the way that Rangers have been singled with the snp having a majority at holyrood to realise that would happened to the whole Protestant culture in Scotland if the nats ever got the show all to themselves. Bluekev, Paisley Blue Loyal, plumbGER and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 41 minutes ago, tm91 said: You can support independence and be a Rangers fan, we're a broad church of many views (for all that things would be far worse if we were independent right now). You cannot support both Rangers and the SNP. Any Rangers fan who supports the SNP might as well start going to Parkhead. Serious qurstion can you support independence but not support the snp??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brubear 2,905 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 A sign of what we are up against. Had a Facebook exchange today who is a Rangers fan but believes the Union Flag when flown at Ibrox is sectarian. Go into his profile and his two things he follows and support, Rangers and the SNP. No wonder he has a weird view of the Union Flag. SuperAli 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, Brubear said: A sign of what we are up against. Had a Facebook exchange today who is a Rangers fan but believes the Union Flag when flown at Ibrox is sectarian. Go into his profile and his two things he follows and support, Rangers and the SNP. No wonder he has a weird view of the Union Flag. The union flag being sectarian 😂😂😂 scottyscott1963 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,431 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, rabc10000 said: Serious qurstion can you support independence but not support the snp??? You should be able to, not sure many do. rabc10000 and BlueAvenger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 19 hours ago, King Jela said: Politicising the press, politicising the National impartial broadcaster, politicising the police and judiciary. See it yet? five stars, Bad Robot, scottyscott1963 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
writingranger 1,412 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 There's some nasty stuff going about and that is for certain. Racism, sexism, nationalism, exceptionalism, sectarianism, prejudice of every stripe. Maybe we are the ones who should take the lead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 34 minutes ago, rabc10000 said: Serious qurstion can you support independence but not support the snp??? I know x 3 Rangers fans that support independence but don't vote SNP now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brubear 2,905 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 26 minutes ago, TamCoopz said: The union flag being sectarian 😂😂😂 Yes there are a whole host of people say that Rangers allowing the Union Flag to be put across the seats at Ibrox during lockdown games is proof that they have no intention of fighting sectarianism as this is a sign they encourage it as the flag is sectarian. Sadly there are Rangers fans who support the SNP and independence agreeing with this view. TamCoopz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,274 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 ‘Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a god, but never without belief in a devil’. The English (usually concealed under the term ‘Tories’) and Rangers/Unionism are the SNP’s devil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GaryStevens02 148 Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 My late father was a member of the SNP in the 1970s but that was back when they had serious politicians like Gordon Wilson and they could see the potential transformation of Scotland akin to what was happening in Norway with their sovereign fund etc. Back then they were hated by the very same people who now vote for them, they were branded as Tartan Tories and the RC population were advised to vote Labour by their priests (this was confirmed by a neighbour). The ship sailed on independence in the 1970s and 80s and for the last 20 years of his life he certainly came to despise them. The SNP had made a calculated shift to become a very republican type outfit more akin to something like Sinn Fein and it seemed to start with Salmond and co who were at one point expelled from the party over their views. Look at our railway stations and road sign posts. Gaelic was never a predominant language in Scotland, ever, and real speakers of the language do not retrospectively invent words , they use the English word for anything remotely modern yet the government is hell bent on reinforcing the propaganda that we are separate and different and not the same as other UK citizens as part of their narrative and Rangers are very much in their sights as the antithesis of what they stand for. The only people I now know for sure that vote SNP are, let’s say, not from a non denominational background. Bad Robot, gmcf, scottyscott1963 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DMax399 3,685 Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 38 minutes ago, Brubear said: A sign of what we are up against. Had a Facebook exchange today who is a Rangers fan but believes the Union Flag when flown at Ibrox is sectarian. Go into his profile and his two things he follows and support, Rangers and the SNP. No wonder he has a weird view of the Union Flag. Anyone who believes that the Union flag is sectarian needs to have a word with themselves. Rowley Birkin, Bad Robot, TamCoopz and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,274 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, GaryStevens02 said: My late father was a member of the SNP in the 1970s but that was back when they had serious politicians like Gordon Wilson and they could see the potential transformation of Scotland akin to what was happening in Norway with their sovereign fund etc. Back then they were hated by the very same people who now vote for them, they were branded as Tartan Tories and the RC population were advised to vote Labour by their priests (this was confirmed by a neighbour). The ship sailed on independence in the 1970s and 80s and for the last 20 years of his life he certainly came to despise them. The SNP had made a calculated shift to become a very republican type outfit more akin to something like Sinn Fein and it seemed to start with Salmond and co who were at one point expelled from the party over their views. Look at our railway stations and road sign posts. Gaelic was never a predominant language in Scotland, ever, and real speakers of the language do not retrospectively invent words , they use the English word for anything remotely modern yet the government is hell bent on reinforcing the propaganda that we are separate and different and not the same as other UK citizens as part of their narrative and Rangers are very much in their sights as the antithesis of what they stand for. The only people I now know for sure that vote SNP are, let’s say, not from a non denominational background. You’re correct. When I was a student in the 70’s had several Catholic friends and all were vehemently opposed to independence and the SNP. Remember one occasion, going into a pub and the DJ put on ‘Flower ofScotland’ only for them to loudly whistle and jeer and get it taken off. Over the last twenty years, there has been a dramatic swing of the Catholic block vote to the SNP enticed no doubt by their anti English / Unionist rhetoric. Bad Robot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,146 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, Brubear said: Yes there are a whole host of people say that Rangers allowing the Union Flag to be put across the seats at Ibrox during lockdown games is proof that they have no intention of fighting sectarianism as this is a sign they encourage it as the flag is sectarian. Sadly there are Rangers fans who support the SNP and independence agreeing with this view. They aren’t Rangers fans scottyscott1963 and Brubear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyscott1963 18,208 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, GaryStevens02 said: Look at our railway stations and road sign posts. The people responsible for these signs cannot speak gaelic,and neither can 98.5% of the people they are aimed at. Ibrox holds more than the total of people who can speak gaelic in scotland. Kilwinning Railway Staiton pronounced is 'kill the fenian' or 'cill d'fhinnein' TamCoopz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyscott1963 18,208 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: They aren’t Rangers fans IF they are....by fuck life must be a struggle. 6superbarry6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, Inigo said: I know x 3 Rangers fans that support independence but don't vote SNP now. This is what confuses me totally, I mean only the snp are going for independence if can work things out?? Surely both go hand in hand together. Also surely if we accept one we as a fan base must accept the other as well??, scottyscott1963 and Brubear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,712 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, rabc10000 said: This is what confuses me totally, I mean only the snp are going for independence if can work things out?? Surely both go hand in hand together. Also surely if we accept one we as a fan base must accept the other as well??, There's the alba party rabc10000 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, born a blue nose said: There's the alba party U making up groups now for independence 🤔🤔 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, rabc10000 said: This is what confuses me totally, I mean only the snp are going for independence if can work things out?? Surely both go hand in hand together. Also surely if we accept one we as a fan base must accept the other as well??, Nope. The folk I mention want independence, but are not willing to vote for the SNP the way they currently behave to get it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,712 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, rabc10000 said: U making up groups now for independence 🤔🤔 Naw mate it's an independence party formed by salmond. rabc10000 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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