Imagine some Rangers supporters saying you are not a Rangers supporter because of a Political belief ?

[Drunk and disorderly. 14,321]

Wonder if his real name is Angus. What a cruel thing to name a wain. Drop the letter G mate, it really isn't needed.

No wonder he is on here full of whisky and haggis and stressed out of his nut. 

 

 

 

[KeyserSoze 14,520]

I usually do this:

read and get an understanding of the main runners manifesto’s.  
Then decide what’s good for

1. me and my family 

2. my local community 

3. wider society in Scotland and our relationship with Europe/rest of world 

then I vote  

I never once think what’s best for my Football club - knowing my thoughts on that haven’t changed for 50 years. ie: a half decent manager and players capable of winning things     
 

 

[MacBoyd 5,431]

The Scottish Nationalist Party are an enemy of our club. Their racist anti British campaign has lead to vile attacks on our club. I don't understand how a Rangers fan can see this and vote for them, however in the free nation we currently live, it's upto them.

[The Dude 20,026]

Who are we allowed to vote for? 

[WATP81 89]

6 hours ago, Angus1965 said:

These Dim Wits are living in the past , do these Idiots not realise a large percentage of the Scotland support in the travel club are Rangers .

 

 

The Scum supporters that say if you vote SNP , Labour / Tory Scum. 

 

 

 

FFS I wont vote for anyone , but i dislike some Arse that has never set foot at Ibrox like the OP Swagger .

 

 

 

I guessing the point your tying to make is you support the SNP and Rangers. Saying people are living in the past and should not be calling out other Rangers fans then calling Rangers fans and Tory’s scum is a bit hypocritical. My view and I think the majority on here’s view is that you can be any religion, race or hold any political view and support Rangers but the SNP’s actions are now so blankly anti Rangers that support for both contradicts itself. If you support the SNP your support a party that wants to do our club harm so you can not call yourself a Rangers supporter.

[The Dude 20,026]

Given Paul Sweeneys comments on Rangers and his party's history towards us, we also can't vote Labour? 

[HairyBeary 1,040]

5 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Given Paul Sweeneys comments on Rangers and his party's history towards us, we also can't vote Labour? 

I’d guess there are Rangers leaning labour SMPs that counterbalance Swinney. Not heard of any Rangers leaning SNP ones. 

[graeme_4 34,350]

19 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Who are we allowed to vote for? 

Honestly, no politician deserves our vote any more. All professional liars. Basically voting for who’s the least worst. 

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, graeme_4 said:

Honestly, no politician deserves our vote any more. All professional liars. Basically voting for who’s the least worst. 

Couldn't agree more. 

[WATP81 89]

6 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Given Paul Sweeneys comments on Rangers and his party's history towards us, we also can't vote Labour? 

Don’t think I could vote for him personally but don’t think the Labour Party as a whole have shown the same anti Rangers stance as the SNP, that’s what it comes down to if you vote SNP your voting for a party that is going to try a do our club and fellow supporters damage.

[The Dude 20,026]

Just now, WATP81 said:

Don’t think I could vote for him personally but don’t think the Labour Party as a whole have shown the same anti Rangers stance as the SNP, that’s what it comes down to if you vote SNP your voting for a party that is going to try a do our club and fellow supporters damage.

Unyil probably a decade ago plenty said voting for labour was incompatible with supporting Rangers.

[WATP81 89]

7 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Unyil probably a decade ago plenty said voting for labour was incompatible with supporting Rangers.

Never heard that before, 10 years ago I probably voted labour but in my opinion I’ve never know an other political party to be as anti Rangers and it’s support as the current SNP. It’s very obvious that they are against us

[The Dude 20,026]

2 minutes ago, WATP81 said:

Never heard that before, 10 years ago I probably voted labour but in my opinion I’ve never know an other political party to be as anti Rangers and it’s support as the current SNP. It’s very obvious that they are against us

Much of what is said about the SNP was said about labour - particularly under McConnell as he turned "fighting sectarianism" into vote-winner.

[Dan Deacon 55,127]

Get this abomination into the politics section or deleted

[WATP81 89]

2 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Much of what is said about the SNP was said about labour - particularly under McConnell as he turned "fighting sectarianism" into vote-winner.

Don’t think it was anywhere near to the same degree as what we are seeing now from the SNP and how one sided it is against us.

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the size of the title looks like a Tannerall thread

[Cooperson 799]

6 hours ago, bluenose48 said:

I have been a Rangers supporter for 63 years longer than a lot on here have been alive albeit from the other side of the World for most of it.

I cannot believe some of the vitriol aimed at posters who don't happen to vote for a certain party. These people are Rangers supporters whether you like it or not and yes I read some of the media from Scotland that seek to implicate Rangers in everything evil in the World but I choose to ignore them and get on with it.

I remember when Rangers had a protestant only signing policy, I also remember a certain player of ours being hounded out of the club because his wife was a catholic and don't try and tell me that was not the reason. Twisted and bitter wee men.

This is the 21st century and I'll bet some of you uber protestants have not set foot in a church for many a long year. We now have Catholics, protestants, Moslems, people of different skin colours and all different nationalities they are all Rangers players and as long as they wear that shirt I will support them.

The outrage on this site when Glen Kamara was racially abused by that moron last year was great but yet the same people slagging off people who vote for the SNP.

Rangers as a club promote " everyone anyone" nowhere do I see except if you vote SNP. You all need to have a good look at yourselves, small minded bigots akin to the nazi's of WW2.

Rant over and you can tell me to fuck off if you like. I will still be a Rangers man.

Alex Ferguson got punted because he wasn't very good, he was also told to mark Billy McNeil ( who knew ) which he never did,and he had a bad attitude when he played for us, so decided to use the catholic pish just like you have,

The guy is a bitter clown,

The Snp are Scotland's shame

[Bakbear 3,580]

5 hours ago, bluenose48 said:

I have been a Rangers supporter for 63 years longer than a lot on here have been alive albeit from the other side of the World for most of it.

I cannot believe some of the vitriol aimed at posters who don't happen to vote for a certain party. These people are Rangers supporters whether you like it or not and yes I read some of the media from Scotland that seek to implicate Rangers in everything evil in the World but I choose to ignore them and get on with it.

I remember when Rangers had a protestant only signing policy, I also remember a certain player of ours being hounded out of the club because his wife was a catholic and don't try and tell me that was not the reason. Twisted and bitter wee men.

This is the 21st century and I'll bet some of you uber protestants have not set foot in a church for many a long year. We now have Catholics, protestants, Moslems, people of different skin colours and all different nationalities they are all Rangers players and as long as they wear that shirt I will support them.

The outrage on this site when Glen Kamara was racially abused by that moron last year was great but yet the same people slagging off people who vote for the SNP.

Rangers as a club promote " everyone anyone" nowhere do I see except if you vote SNP. You all need to have a good look at yourselves, small minded bigots akin to the nazi's of WW2.

Rant over and you can tell me to fuck off if you like. I will still be a Rangers man.

Not sure if you are actually interested in discussing this or, like so many in internet land, have already formed a view and will just put it out there to entrench that view and polarise the discussion? 
 

What the internet is very bad for is nuanced discussion. It’s one of the major ails of our society that environments where people could come together and have nuanced discussion and to see the perspective of others are now so rare. Nowadays every minor disagreement on views is a major schism in our society. 
 

I am going to share a dirty little secret, I have absolutely no beef with Catholics and I have no beef with the Irish.  I am no fan of the Catholic church, as it happens probably one of the most brutal of all the cults, but I am atheist and I consider all religions more or less the same. I have some of my best friends from Ireland and aside from the fact they are mostly atheist they are also wonderful people.   
 

The mindset of the old days where we tended not to sign them and tended to frown upon intermarriage was a product of its day. There were reasons for it and reasons that we would struggle to grasp today. This propensity to judge historic behaviours by a yardstick of today’s standards is madness. Nowadays I don’t think many Rangers fans give a flying fuck about religion.
 

But the anti-SNP sentiment from the Rangers support is not about “anti-Catholicism” or “anti-Irish”. That’s a narrative that is trying to be painted by the politicians. If the truth be absolute, it is not entirely about unionism either, although that is a consideration.
 

The anti-SNP sentiment right now among the Rangers support is almost entirely about double standards. Rangers as a club and as a fan base have been targeted for the last 15 years by the government of their own country. Is it a coincidence that the government of this country has been the SNP for those 15 years? 

All sensible Rangers fans support the “everyone anyone” campaign. All sensible Rangers fans have left the sectarianism behind. All supports of all football clubs, just like society, have arseholes in their support. But only one club is being consistently targeted for that element of their support. Only one club is being constantly punished, defamed, denigrated and ostracised. When it was the lunatic fringe they were going after, there was little appetite to defend it, but now they are going after everyone and inventing offence for their own agenda. 
 

All Rangers fans demand is parity and equal treatment. Absence of parity speaks to bias and prejudice. That prejudice is not driven by tolerance and sanity or a desire to eradicate sectarianism. It is being driven for a political agenda perpetuated by the SNP, or perhaps more specifically “Sepetatists”. The Separatists hate Rangers. They hate the quintessential Britishness of the club. They hate the Union Flag. They hate the Queen on our dressing room wall. They hate us singing GSTQ.

If you can’t see that I don’t know what you are looking at. Rangers don’t hate the SNP and Rangers fans obviously vote for them because otherwise they wouldn’t be in power, but make no mistake they hate Rangers and the hate and campaigning is escalating and coming out of the shadows so that it is now overtly ok to hate all things British and actually consider being British as being racist and xenophobic. That’s the narrative being pushed. It won’t be long before the Union Flag is considered a racist symbol.
 

No one can tell another person who to vote for. That’s a personal decision. Football and politics SHOULD be different but it’s not Rangers fans who are bringing the politics into football. 
 

You need to consider what’s important to you and evaluate what kind of society you want to live in, and vote for those that most closely match your values.
 

However, I can completely understand the confusion of many people who see the disparity of treatment of the football club they love by this government, and question how others can reconcile that treatment with their own values. You have to remember that even if people are no longer religious, or even care about religion, they still have many of the values instilled in them from those times. Honesty, integrity, hard work, loyalty, fairness. 

All that being considered, is it beyond comprehension that Rangers Fans, who make Rangers an enormous part of their life, can reach a position where they are unable to reconcile voting for a party that is so determined to tear down that club? 
 

 

 

 

 

[Tiger Shaw 30,342]

Some utter shite posted in here funnily enough by people who have not stayed in the county for decades and have no real understanding of the nonsense and shambles this country’ has became under nationalist rule 

And fuck knows why religion, Alex Ferguson’s wife and Glen Kamara where brought into it 🤣

Auld senile bastards imo

[j1mgg 3,766]

There is a clear agenda within the ranks of the SNP to try and destroy the name of one football club, while trying to do everything it can to bend over backwards for another football.

 

I suppose it comes down to what you put first, your political party, or your football team.

[gmcf 34,090]

8 hours ago, Angus1965 said:

These Dim Wits are living in the past , do these Idiots not realise a large percentage of the Scotland support in the travel club are Rangers .

 

 

The Scum supporters that say if you vote SNP , Labour / Tory Scum. 

 

 

 

FFS I wont vote for anyone , but i dislike some Arse that has never set foot at Ibrox like the OP Swagger .

 

 

 

And this is why I stick to the music thread on a Friday night / Saturday morning

 

[Bakbear 3,580]

16 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said:

Some utter shite posted in here funnily enough by people who have not stayed in the county for decades and have no real understanding of the nonsense and shambles this country’ has became under nationalist rule 

And fuck knows why religion, Alex Ferguson’s wife and Glen Kamara where brought into it 🤣

Auld senile bastards imo

Because the attack vector is religion and anti-Irish ness.  There is not really a discussion to be had without addressing Catholics and those of Irish descent. SNP lickspittles are trying to use that to tear down the British Institution that is Rangers. 
 

 

[Tiger Shaw 30,342]

6 hours ago, Bakbear said:

Because the attack vector is religion and anti-Irish ness.  There is not really a discussion to be had without addressing Catholics and those of Irish descent. SNP lickspittles are trying to use that to tear down the British Institution that is Rangers. 
 

 

Nah religion Alex Fergusons wife and Glen Kamara where bizarrely brought into it by posters to defend SNP supporting scum 

[The Beast 9,182]

7 hours ago, bluenose48 said:

I have been a Rangers supporter for 63 years longer than a lot on here have been alive albeit from the other side of the World for most of it.

I cannot believe some of the vitriol aimed at posters who don't happen to vote for a certain party. These people are Rangers supporters whether you like it or not and yes I read some of the media from Scotland that seek to implicate Rangers in everything evil in the World but I choose to ignore them and get on with it.

I remember when Rangers had a protestant only signing policy, I also remember a certain player of ours being hounded out of the club because his wife was a catholic and don't try and tell me that was not the reason. Twisted and bitter wee men.

This is the 21st century and I'll bet some of you uber protestants have not set foot in a church for many a long year. We now have Catholics, protestants, Moslems, people of different skin colours and all different nationalities they are all Rangers players and as long as they wear that shirt I will support them.

The outrage on this site when Glen Kamara was racially abused by that moron last year was great but yet the same people slagging off people who vote for the SNP.

Rangers as a club promote " everyone anyone" nowhere do I see except if you vote SNP. You all need to have a good look at yourselves, small minded bigots akin to the nazi's of WW2.

Rant over and you can tell me to fuck off if you like. I will still be a Rangers man.

This is feck all to do with catholics or race or where you fall on the political spectrum from far left to far right.

This is a about individuals and institutions that are vigorously pursuing an agenda to denigrate and destroy our fanbase and club. This is about standing up to defend ourselves and most definitely not supporting those who wish us harm.

The SNP and certain parts of the MSM  most definitely fall into that category. 

We are not being treated equally or fairly. 

We are under attack right now in the present day. If you can't see or understand that, then by all means keep on blethering on about injustices from decades ago but don't expect many to agree with you.

[Brubear 2,905]

7 hours ago, TamCoopz said:

Red team on bargain hunt statistically do well so i always back them pal 

I've lobbied the BBC for a green team and a yellow team. The way it is set up is discrimination against the Irish.