The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Broxi said: Whether they have or haven't, nobody has came in at valuation for any player at any time in the last 6 years other than Windass going for £2.5m Because we have held firm on our valuation/gambled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Broxi said: Yeah at what has to be assumed would be well below value. Nobody has came in for players for the prices we've wanted and we've not managed to make any significant sales. I don't believe that we haven't wanted to sell Morelos over the years (nothing to do with form or current debates) but because that's our model and he was the player at highest value, who wanted to leave and it was time. But we didn't get the bids good enough We rejected 16.5m for Morelos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,484 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, The Dude said: a handful of times in the entire history of Scottish football. Oh come on you know that's not an even playing field A handful of times in the entire history of Scottish football... all in the last decade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,775 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Yet no one sniffed at our guys by all accounts in the summer when we just won the league Was Aribo not late to arrive to international duty at the end of the window because there were negotiations going on about a potential transfer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Aribo is highly rated in England though. Always has been. A club like Brentford would easily pay 8 million for him IMO. Is he though? How many clubs tried to sign him when we got him for buttons? STEPPS BOY 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,461 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: a handful of times in the entire history of Scottish football. Off the top of my head in the last 5-6 years, they’ve had quite a few in or around that range (Tierney, Dembele, Wanyama, Edouard, VVD, Frimpong all come to mind). I’m probably missing more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetToTheChoppa 6,873 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, The Dude said: Is he though? How many clubs tried to sign him when we got him for buttons? He has reportedly cost £300,000 because of cross-border transfer rules. "There were clubs in for Joe around Europe, in the Premier League and the Championship," manager Gerrard said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,484 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, The Specky Liar said: Because we have held firm on our valuation/gambled. Exactly, nobody has met our valuation 1 minute ago, The Specky Liar said: We rejected 16.5m for Morelos. If we did then it was at a time that we thought he was worth more. I think it's a good thing we've held out, it's not what I'm trying to say. I'm saying nobody else is agreeing with us and they aren't giving us that money we that we need to start getting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, DBBTB said: Was Aribo not late to arrive to international duty at the end of the window because there were negotiations going on about a potential transfer? Nigeria manager claimed three players were late becuase of transfer talks. none of the three he named moved in the summer window. Helluva coincidence that three players for the same international team were all involved in last-minute transfers, delaying their travel to Nigeria, that collapsed before it could be completed. Jimfanciesthedude and STEPPS BOY 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,484 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Is he though? How many clubs tried to sign him when we got him for buttons? Again... we had a cross-border loophole no English club could use You're using far too many misrepresentations of scenarios in half of your posts here Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Dude said: Is he though? How many clubs tried to sign him when we got him for buttons? I'm not a massive fan of him but he now has international recognition, European experience and is a league winner now with probably around another 100 games under his belt BlueSuedeSambas and graeme_4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,775 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: Is he though? How many clubs tried to sign him when we got him for buttons? Nobody can say for sure but he was linked with Southampton, Aston Villa and Man City (mainly because he would fill a homegrown player slot) in the year or so before he joined us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Off the top of my head in the last 5-6 years, they’ve had quite a few in or around that range (Tierney, Dembele, Wanyama, Edouard, VVD, Frimpong all come to mind). I’m probably missing more. Six players over almost a decade. Ajer was being touted as a "40m" player - joined Brentford for anything between 9m and 18m based on reports a few months later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,461 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Six players over almost a decade. Ajer was being touted as a "40m" player - joined Brentford for anything between 9m and 18m based on reports a few months later. That’s pretty good going IMO. Forgot about that big fanny. Media transfer talk in Scotland isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Broxi said: Again... we had a cross-border loophole no English club could use You're using far too many misrepresentations of scenarios in half of your posts here English clubs could have signed aribo for as little as 600k. We paid 350k. The 'loophole' isn't really as much of a loophole as folk think. English clubs could still sign Aribo when his contract ended, the only difference was it would go to a trbunal to arrange a fee using a faily similar formula to the one which saw us pay 350k. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, graeme_4 said: That’s pretty good going IMO. Forgot about that big fanny. Also six players in 130 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: I'm not a massive fan of him but he now has international recognition, European experience and is a league winner now with probably around another 100 games under his belt Playing for Nigeria isn't going to add anything on to his value though - or make him particularly more attractive to clubs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,484 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, The Dude said: Six players over almost a decade. Ajer was being touted as a "40m" player - joined Brentford for anything between 9m and 18m based on reports a few months later. You are STILL using players prices in the last year of their contract despite that not being what's discussed. It actually makes makes your point worse that players in Scotland can go for double figures even in the last year of their contract after having a poor season. 6 players in 8 years where Ajer definitely would have under normal contractual status too. Almost one player a season from the best club in the league at the time. Which is now us. Christie would have too. And there's plenty other players who would if teams went for them too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Nobody can say for sure but he was linked with Southampton, Aston Villa and Man City (mainly because he would fill a homegrown player slot) in the year or so before he joined us. And none of them were so keen to get him they offered terms (and every one of those three could blow us out the water financially) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,465 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, The Dude said: Is he though? How many clubs tried to sign him when we got him for buttons? Wasn't Bowyer wanting him to move to Brentford? So he could get over a million in compensation instead of the buttons we paid for him? Didn't hear any other club linked with him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,461 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: Also six players in 130 years. Context is king. You’re getting silly now. ger4life_1872, Jamie0202 and PGWoodwind 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,484 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: English clubs could have signed aribo for as little as 600k. We paid 350k. The 'loophole' isn't really as much of a loophole as folk think. English clubs could still sign Aribo when his contract ended, the only difference was it would go to a trbunal to arrange a fee using a faily similar formula to the one which saw us pay 350k. I don't remember that being the case at the time. I'm sure it was multi-millions. 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Also six players in 130 years. You're just being ridiculous now PGWoodwind, graeme_4 and Jamie0202 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: There's no way you actually believe that? Okay then, no one sniffed at our guys with a price that we deemed acceptable, now given we are going to show absolutely horrendous accounts, are running at a loss every season without CL income, and have a bloated squad that needa trimmed we either have a board thats way over valued our players, or other clubs simply dont think our players are worth going for Either way until we actually sell anyone, our players values are speculation, people wanted 10mill for goldson last season, he's now looking like leaving on a freebie, so either our board over valued him, or clubs simply didnt believe he was worth paying any sort of money for Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Broxi said: You are STILL using players prices in the last year of their contract despite that not being what's discussed. It actually makes makes your point worse that players in Scotland can go for double figures even in the last year of their contract after having a poor season. 6 players in 8 years where Ajer definitely would have under normal contractual status too. Almost one player a season from the best club in the league at the time. Which is now us. Christie would have too. And there's plenty other players who would if teams went for them too. Can only go with the prices people actually paid in reality rather than hypotheticals based on scenarios that never happened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,530 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Dude said: Also six players in 130 years. Hahahahaha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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