Popular Post rabc10000 5,060 Posted September 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, the goal machine said: It’s not a normal situation though. People are entitled to do what they want but there’s going to be consequences whether that’s certain places not letting you in etc. Which for me is all wrong. I mean the vaccine was allegedly brought in to protect the vulnerable so why would a healthy person being vindicated because they feel its best for them that they don't have the vaccine?? After all the experts told us that not having the vaccine reduces your chances of survival as well as passing it on so if anyone wants to play roulette by not taking the vaccine then surely they should be allowed to make that decision themselves??? Think this could easily be the beginning of the end of people's civil liberty as we know it. What comes next?? 6 monthly or 3 monthly vaccines to be allowed to live a normal life?? Perhaps we can exclude non key workers from vaccines so all office workers etc can't work due to giving monthly vaccines to key workers!?? Its a fucking minefield ready to explode Bearsden bear, Willis, crazy bob swollenbaws and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gascoigne8 3,355 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I take it there is still no actual format agreed as to how this is going to work/be policed. Still cannae see it working whatever they do to be honest five stars and Bluekev 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottywellhousetb 50,133 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gascoigne8 said: I take it there is still no actual format agreed as to how this is going to work/be policed. Still cannae see it working whatever they do to be honest Should be a laugh considering the queues at 20 to 3 to get in today, need to leave the pub 3 hours before it opens. Bearsden bear, Leftpegcoopz11 and Gascoigne8 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gascoigne8 3,355 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Just now, Scottywellhousetb said: Should be a laugh considering the queues at 20 to 3 to get in today, need to leave the pub 3 hours before it opens. Nae danger someone on £9 an hour is gonnae risk getting pannelled because they refuse someone entry 😀 Bad Robot, crazy bob swollenbaws and Rambo1872 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco 1,385 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 19 hours ago, rabc10000 said: Imagine not being allowed not to go out to watch the fitba or shopping just because u have a differing opinion to others You're not going to be excluded from the football or shopping centre because you like our third top this year. If you refuse to take a vaccine that helps reduce societal impact of a virus that's shut down the world, don't be surprised when you're denied access to large community events. Sensible public health policy trumps an individual's need for specific forms of recreation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MattyBlue 16,958 Posted September 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2021 59 minutes ago, Marco said: You're not going to be excluded from the football or shopping centre because you like our third top this year. If you refuse to take a vaccine that helps reduce societal impact of a virus that's shut down the world, don't be surprised when you're denied access to large community events. Sensible public health policy trumps an individual's need for specific forms of recreation. You sound a right snotty prick 😂 gazza27, semaj, Gascoigne8 and 4 others 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Gunn 86 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 On 18/09/2021 at 22:56, don logan said: We wouldn't be arguing about this if the vaccination rates weren't so high. Nobody would be at the football if the vaccinated hadn't stepped up to the plate. Yet still the unvaccinated complain. They are letting the majority do the heavy lifting but moan now that they might not be able to come to the party. What part of vaccine doesn't prevent transmission don't you understand? You're only potentially protecting yourself, "heavy lifting" jesus wept. Nelson loyal, Ibroxholm and Gascoigne8 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,260 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Marco said: You're not going to be excluded from the football or shopping centre because you like our third top this year. If you refuse to take a vaccine that helps reduce societal impact of a virus that's shut down the world, don't be surprised when you're denied access to large community events. Sensible public health policy trumps an individual's need for specific forms of recreation. Governments shut down the world which considering how few have died from covid ( distinctly different from those dying within 28 days of a +ve result) is pretty fucking unwarranted. Ibroxholm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,260 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Marco said: You're not going to be excluded from the football or shopping centre because you like our third top this year. If you refuse to take a vaccine that helps reduce societal impact of a virus that's shut down the world, don't be surprised when you're denied access to large community events. Sensible public health policy trumps an individual's need for specific forms of recreation. The statement ‘reducing societal impact’ is doing a lot of heavy lifting in this diatribe. You do know that the manufacturers of these ‘vacs’ have never claimed that they would stop you catching or spreading the virus. And they were right to because they don’t. As a point of further accuracy, the virus did not shutdown the world. The world was shutdown due to the decisions of crazy governments/regimes deciding to copy Communist China and embark on what will likely prove to be the most catastrophic public health policy ever undertaken. Nelson loyal, Willis and Bad Robot 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco 1,385 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 44 minutes ago, Ibroxholm said: The statement ‘reducing societal impact’ is doing a lot of heavy lifting in this diatribe. You do know that the manufacturers of these ‘vacs’ have never claimed that they would stop you catching or spreading the virus. And they were right to because they don’t. As a point of further accuracy, the virus did not shutdown the world. The world was shutdown due to the decisions of crazy governments/regimes deciding to copy Communist China and embark on what will likely prove to be the most catastrophic public health policy ever undertaken. BioNTech/Pfizer and Oxford/AstraZeneca both claimed their vaccines could reduce transmission. We already have a nice collection of data supporting the claim that vaccines reduce transmission though we need more data on the more viral Delta variant. There's also promising research comparing the incubation period of vaccinated vs unvaccinated. And that's before we get to the symptoms leading to hospitalisation part of 'societal impact' which is the important part. Again, you're free to refuse the vaccine. But given how many within the British population have been prepared to get themselves vaccinated, you probably shouldn't expect too much in the way of support for your ability to go the footie vs sensible public health policy. End of the day if a person who has refused the vaccine really wants into Ibrox, then I'm sure they'll get in, but hopefully those still on the fence are persuaded to get themselves vaccinated. Did chuckle at "further accuracy". Cheers for that! docspiderman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,132 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 “Marco Marco, don’t forget to pack your freshly ironed silk Zimmerli underpants from Harrods before you venture out on your wonderful journey and stay at Gordonstouns” CoatbridgeBear, MattyBlue and Leftpegcoopz11 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 23 hours ago, Gascoigne8 said: I take it there is still no actual format agreed as to how this is going to work/be policed. Still cannae see it working whatever they do to be honest Guy a couple in front of me yesterday was struggling to scan a code from his phone. After only about 60 secs people were getting restless, i think due to flag day. Imagine getting close to kick off with massive queues and any kind of hold ups with things not scanning etc It will be effing bedlam - i cant see it working unless its a quick visual and only checking 1 in 100 or so Gascoigne8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,023 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Billy Gunn said: What part of vaccine doesn't prevent transmission don't you understand? You're only potentially protecting yourself, "heavy lifting" jesus wept. Just get the vaccine Billy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Gunn 86 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Just now, don logan said: Just get the vaccine Billy. No surrender Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftpegcoopz11 4,582 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Marco said: BioNTech/Pfizer and Oxford/AstraZeneca both claimed their vaccines could reduce transmission. We already have a nice collection of data supporting the claim that vaccines reduce transmission though we need more data on the more viral Delta variant. There's also promising research comparing the incubation period of vaccinated vs unvaccinated. And that's before we get to the symptoms leading to hospitalisation part of 'societal impact' which is the important part. Again, you're free to refuse the vaccine. But given how many within the British population have been prepared to get themselves vaccinated, you probably shouldn't expect too much in the way of support for your ability to go the footie vs sensible public health policy. End of the day if a person who has refused the vaccine really wants into Ibrox, then I'm sure they'll get in, but hopefully those still on the fence are persuaded to get themselves vaccinated. Did chuckle at "further accuracy". Cheers for that! I've been double jabbed. Don't think it will make much difference to me whether someone else has or hasn't, thems takes their chances, thems deal with it. One of my mates refuses to get any. His choice, and I'm not going to lecture the cunt either. Whether I disagree or not. The NHS was fucked long before this pandemic. And who was health minister before she was FM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted September 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, Billy Gunn said: No surrender Its your choice mate and it should be respected. Getting board with this now. The vax doesnt prevent someone from being infected and passing to others. A piece of paper or an app will do nothing to reduce case numbers on that basis. This method in demanding vax ports is coercive and verging on the downright sinister. Jagging kids now ffs! Time we called a halt to this farce. WilliamMunny, fuckthespl, Billy Gunn and 4 others 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 12,905 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 If the recent celtic game with a full house,no masks and every cunt jumping on top of each other didn’t cause the end of the world then I don’t know what will and I imagine there were unvaccinated folk surrounding most of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dickie said: If the recent celtic game with a full house,no masks and every cunt jumping on top of each other didn’t cause the end of the world then I don’t know what will and I imagine there were unvaccinated folk surrounding most of us. To be fair, we were listed as the covid hotspot of europe then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 12,905 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: To be fair, we were listed as the covid hotspot of europe then. So should there not have been a massive jump ten days or whatever the time scale is later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco 1,385 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Tiger Shaw said: “Marco Marco, don’t forget to pack your freshly ironed silk Zimmerli underpants from Harrods before you venture out on your wonderful journey and stay at Gordonstouns” I'll tell the staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco 1,385 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Leftpegcoopz11 said: I've been double jabbed. Don't think it will make much difference to me whether someone else has or hasn't, thems takes their chances, thems deal with it. One of my mates refuses to get any. His choice, and I'm not going to lecture the cunt either. Whether I disagree or not. The NHS was fucked long before this pandemic. And who was health minister before she was FM? Pretty much. Not going to rage at or mock folks who decide against getting vaccinated, but I'm not particularly bothered if they find it a bit harder to go to the football either. Does seem there's various issues besides COVID conspiring to make this winter extremely rough on the NHS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftpegcoopz11 4,582 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 52 minutes ago, Marco said: Does seem there's various issues besides COVID conspiring to make this winter extremely rough on the NHS. Yip, my last paragraph in what you've quoted being the main one! Marco 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tiger Shaw 30,132 Posted September 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2021 Worst thing about this whole thing is that there is Rangers supporters happy to see good Bears, some who have followed for decades and paid thousands of pounds in effect being banned from entering the stadium all because they decide for whatever personal reason to not get double vaccinated, backing the sinister controlling SNPs stand. Who needs enemy’s eh shame on you cunts semaj, Bearsden bear, Billy Gunn and 11 others 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semaj 1,637 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Tiger Shaw said: Worst thing about this whole thing is that there is Rangers supporters happy to see good Bears, some who have followed for decades and paid thousands of pounds in effect been banned from entering the stadium all because they decide for whatever personal reason to not get double vaccinated, backing the sinister controlling SNPs stand. Who needs enemy’s eh shame on you cunts spot on mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bears r us 30,561 Posted September 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Tiger Shaw said: Worst thing about this whole thing is that there is Rangers supporters happy to see good Bears, some who have followed for decades and paid thousands of pounds in effect been banned from entering the stadium all because they decide for whatever personal reason to not get double vaccinated, backing the sinister controlling SNPs stand. Who needs enemy’s eh shame on you cunts I have had both jags because I felt that in my late sixties it was the best thing to do, but I also agree with you that this scheme is wrong. The SNP just love being different from WM and that is their reasoning behind it nothing else, the same with travel rules which they are keeping and the Scottish travel/holiday industry are being put at a huge disadvantage. Scottish people are already booking to fly from England rather than Glasgow or Edinburgh Airports but they do not care what they destroy next. 😠 crazy bob swollenbaws, Bluekev, markem and 6 others 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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