MarzM 1,248 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Between 216,000 and 330,000 kids. Fucking hell that is awful. :( jintybear and Paisley Blue Loyal 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Will Follow Rangers 12,921 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 One paedophile ring since 1888. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,835 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Having class actions introduced into Scots Law last year could be very damaging. There is power in numbers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,835 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Having class actions introduced into Scots Law last year could be very damaging. There is power in numbers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy 1,308 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Hopefully all the tainted gains of the "banter years" will be heading towards their victims. Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don1972 491 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Should bull dose that shit hole down with them inside it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, GersInCanada said: The French story is a slap in the face to the nat's who insisted that football clubs and religious organisations were exempt from their 'enquiry'. Did they actually do that? What next? They hold an enquiry into drugs deaths in scotland, but exclude smack? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Did they actually do that? What next? They hold an enquiry into drugs deaths in scotland, but exclude smack? Yes they did. But I feel that you already knew that and were just going with a rhetorical question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluenoz 30,835 Posted October 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2021 There are two separate crimes here imo. The victims must be compensated financially for the horrific abuse they suffered with a public apology and the club must receive sanctions for trying to hide the crimes for over 40 years. I won't hold my breath on the latter. WilliamMunny, Straight-Edge-Loyal, markem and 8 others 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bears r us 30,794 Posted October 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Paisley Blue Loyal said: Whilst I agree with every word of that sadly I take nothing for granted given what a fucked up little backwater of a country we currently live in . I have very little faith, if any, in our Justice System now, especially when it comes to organisations or people who could be SNP supporters/voters. I hope for the people involved I am wrong. Time will tell. jintybear, SteveEarle, Bluekev and 6 others 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy 1,308 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Strange, I cannot see a thread on this important matter on Kerryfail! Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, Shuggy said: Strange, I cannot see a thread on this important matter on Kerryfail! Â What about other Scottish Club forums? scottyscott1963 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ayrshire Blue 2,053 Posted October 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2021 First and foremost there has to be justice for the survivors and their families of cfc & their boy’s club. lf the case is won, then there is a question of Sporting Integrity to be answered. 1 As a football club, they have too be punished, as well as a business. 2 If proven, and to have gone back 50 years, would sponsoring companies in that period been likely to be associated with the toxic club? 3 If proven, and to have gone back 50 years, would players recruited in that period have signed for the toxic club? By sweeping 50 years of child abuse under their carpet, they gave themselves a sporting advantage. J-Maestro, Hadron Collider, Paisley Blue Loyal and 7 others 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin 13,613 Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 9 paedophiles with 55 convictions between them Employing convicted abusers Attempting to re-employ known abusers Failure to notify anyone of abuse  StoatTheBaw FC  A club like no other indeed Fred H Crawford, Straight-Edge-Loyal and ronniescu 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Another celtic thread with @GersInCanadaright in aboot it RFC55 and TamCoopz 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, plumbGER said: Another celtic thread with @GersInCanadaright in aboot it Mate, this is getting really boring now, we get it, time to move on don't you think? blaudrup and kelvd1873 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Just now, slimjim1690 said: Mate, this is getting really boring now, we get it, time to move on don't you think? Are you his boyfriend? RFC55 and TamCoopz 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,868 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Just saw it come across the ticker on SkySports. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Will Follow Rangers 12,921 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Whistleblower accuses Celtic of failing sex abuse victims Gerry McSherry first raised concerns about young players being targeted in the mid 90s. By STV News Published 19 Dec 2018. By Russell Findlay A whistleblower who exposed sexual abuse at Celtic Boys Club more than 20 years ago has accused Celtic FC of failing the victims. Gerry McSherry first raised concerns about paedophiles targeting young footballers in the mid 1990s. Now - following the convictions of three men - McSherry has called on Celtic chiefs to take responsibility. The club maintains it was an "entirely separate organisation" from the boys club despite evidence of close connections between them. McSherry, 66, said: "Celtic's position today is appalling. They should act in the moral sense. "Forget the legal niceties - act morally and do justice for the weans that grew up and played for them. "Celtic was founded on charity and they say 'oh it's nothing to do with us, two separate entities' ... my backside. "They are avoiding their responsibilities here at the expense of the victims. It's the victims who matter." Celtic fan McSherry first learned of the abuse from the club's official photographer Hugh Birt. Birt quit as chairman of the boys' club in the mid 1980s and gave evidence in the first trial of its manager P1 in 1998. P1 was jailed for 30 months. Up until his death in 2013, Birt remained bitter at how the abuse was "covered up". Last week, boys' club coach P2, 82, was found guilty of ten abuse charges at Hamilton Sheriff Court - having been cleared of other charges in 1998. It follows the second conviction of Torbett, 71, in November, resulting in a six-year prison sentence. And former boys' club chairman and school teacher P3, 65, will be sentenced in January after being found guilty of abusing boys and girls who he taught. McSherry said: "Celtic Football Club should be ashamed of themselves for the way they treated the victims of P2, P1 and P3. "But they should also be ashamed of the way they treated Hughie Birt. They isolated Hughie, ostracised him. "He was treated terribly by Celtic." A relative of Birt told STV News: "It is absolutely correct to say that Hugh felt let down and betrayed." When McSherry learned of the boys' club abuse, he personally confronted P1, P3 and P2 and passed information to the police and media. He admits to throwing bricks through the windows of P1 former business premises. And he was fined £100 in 1997 for making menacing phone calls to P2 and turning up at his home. He attempts to justify his law-breaking on the grounds that the criminal justice system failed in the 1990s. McSherry, of Cathkin, Glasgow, said: "The police never took it seriously until I started papping bricks through windows. "I can't arrest or charge them, put them on trial, get the verdict and jail them. I can't do that. "All I can do is to get the attention of the police to take it up seriously so that they can nail and jail the beasts." Police Scotland launched a full-scale investigation last year after the emergence of widespread historic sexual abuse of young footballers across the UK. McSherry believes that P2 and P3 should have been brought to justice years earlier - and warned that others have still not been caught. He said: "I gave the police the names. 14 names, not two names. "I gave them the names in 1995 and 1996. They only arrested P1 and P2 at the time. "Clearly, serious questions need to be asked of the police." He believes that both he and Birt were smeared for speaking out and admits that doing so took a huge toll on his personal life and "still does". He added: "Hughie was totally discredited. So was I. I'm just a daft b******. 'Oh him, he's just a headcase'. "That's what was going about. Does it bother me? Not in the slightest. "It's not about me or Hughie being vindicated. It's about the weans, about them being vindicated. "These beasts stole their childhood. And it takes them 20, 30 years before they say, 'wait a minute, it wasn't my fault'. "But that's what they do, put the blame on the weans and they then live with that. "Your football career is at an end if you talk about what happened. If you mention anything to do with this, your career is finished. "Telling that to a ten-year-old, terrifies them into submission so they've got total control over that wean's childhood." Police Scotland say their investigation identified 153 victims of child sexual abuse in Scottish football, resulting in 13 arrests. Detective Chief Inspector Sarah Taylor said: "Most of the individuals arrested and charged for abuse as a result of that investigation, including P2, have now been convicted and sentenced. "P2 was a predator who carried out his abuse over decades, using his position of power to target his victims and to ensure that they kept quiet. "Although reports were previously investigated by legacy forces, our proactive investigation revealed the extent of his abuse and gave a voice to his victims. "He is now facing the consequences of his actions and I hope his victims will finally feel vindicated. "We appreciate how difficult it can be to report abuse. We want to thank everyone who came forward and reported, we understand the courage it took and how difficult this must have been. "Our assurance to anyone who has not felt able to report during this time, is that if they wish to report in the future - we will listen; we will investigate regardless of where or when the abuse occurred, and we will take prompt action to ensure that no-one else is at risk of harm.‎" A spokesman for Celtic FC declined to comment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKai 439 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Wonder if this is why their new CEO left. Wouldnt surprise me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 12,905 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 15 hours ago, mrmojorisin said: Well Done to the Spotlight team for their sterling work in pursuing this Keep the comments civil lads   Has the record got new owners or is this a result of lawwell relinquishing power. Blueshoff and Bears 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin 13,613 Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 No offence @We Will Follow Rangers but can you edit your post mate and remove names of P#1 & P#2:as there are live cases against them at present. All should be aware naming names may jeopardise up coming live cases.  Thanks MrMojo     Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,062 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dickie said: Has the record got new owners or is this a result of lawwell relinquishing power. They really couldn't avoid running with it as Thompsons placed a full page advert, inviting more victim's to come forward, in the Record. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blueshoff 11,799 Posted October 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2021 If they 'knew' and the boys club was a separate entity why didn't they whistleblow? Bears, kelvd1873, Paisley Blue Loyal and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Will Follow Rangers 12,921 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Just now, mrmojorisin said: No offence @We Will Follow Rangers but can you edit your post mate and remove names of P#1 & P#2:as there are live cases against them at present. All should be aware naming names may jeopardise up coming live cases.  Thanks MrMojo     Will do mate, but its all already in the public domain, and both have already been convicted. Bluekev 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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