6superbarry6 14,152 Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, psb07158 said: Whilst I agree with the premise of what you are saying here, Aberdeen did not play a low block last night - they were happy to leave space behind their back 4, they were compact however and squeezed higher up the pitch. A 10 last night would have been pointless unless 1) they were willing to run beyond the striker or 2) Roofe/Morelos ran in behind and stretched the Aberdeen defence to create that space for a central 10. Of course, none of the above is possible without a midfielder/defender willing to play a ball in behind which I'm sure everyone is fed up of me going on about on here Yep, teams are feeling more comfortable to push up the park against us due to the chronic lack of pace in our side, when Kent is out we 100% need to play either Wright or Sakala in his place as our current front 3 are ridiculously slow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,771 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, bluenoz said: What I would do to see a Ferguson, Mendes or Tugay grace our midfield again. We need to win the league this year to get that wish. Most of midfielders are defensive minded and similar. Jack, Kamara, Davis, Lundstram. It's tough to watch at times. The problem there is that unless you get incredibly lucky with your scouting then a Ferguson Mendes or Tugay cost you at least 30 million quid these days. The days of ever seeing a player of that quality at Ibrox is over for a long long time. falkirkNS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,886 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: Yep, teams are feeling more comfortable to push up the park against us due to the chronic lack of pace in our side, when Kent is out we 100% need to play either Wright or Sakala in his place as our current front 3 are ridiculously slow. I get the premise but let’s be honest here, Sakala isn’t the answer and Wright can be a nice player but he’s not going to score 15/20 goals or creat 10-15. If it was easy as just having pace then Jordon Jones/ O’Halloran would still be at club. Malkytfp1 and BlueAvenger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,496 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Have a look at the goals of the day video against st mirren 1 over the top, 1 outside the box, 1 short snappy passes into the box with a finish on the turn and 1 run to the byeline with a late runner. This isn’t with sports science and xG scores……it’s not difficult to play this way but Gerrard and the coaches are do damn rigid with the system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThunder 8,453 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: Yep, teams are feeling more comfortable to push up the park against us due to the chronic lack of pace in our side, when Kent is out we 100% need to play either Wright or Sakala in his place as our current front 3 are ridiculously slow. I couldn’t believe we had Alfie, Roofe and Hagi all looking like they were running through treacle at times. I guess the management team think we are going to be camped near their boxes so lack of pace isn’t an issue.l, but it was last night when we tried to play balls though. 6superbarry6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 9,349 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 There will be no real activity in Jan. We haven’t got any money and no one will spend mega bucks on our players. It will be a complete stalemate with the only dealings being we get rid of someone on the fringes and Gerrard brings in someone else we’ve never heard of from the Championship in England. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number5 2,121 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 4 hours ago, 6superbarry6 said: Think Kent being out is a massive factor tbh, our front 3 lacks any sort of pace at the moment which makes presses from the front a lot harder He's the difference no doubt. This season aside. Even when he's been poor the threat alone makes teams double up creating space for others. When he's on it he changes the whole dynamic and pace of a game. Need him to come back firing. 6superbarry6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 58 minutes ago, psb07158 said: Whilst I agree with the premise of what you are saying here, Aberdeen did not play a low block last night - they were happy to leave space behind their back 4, they were compact however and squeezed higher up the pitch. A 10 last night would have been pointless unless 1) they were willing to run beyond the striker or 2) Roofe/Morelos ran in behind and stretched the Aberdeen defence to create that space for a central 10. Of course, none of the above is possible without a midfielder/defender willing to play a ball in behind which I'm sure everyone is fed up of me going on about on here Sheep played a back 3 last night ojo and campbell were wingbacks, hence why space was in behind them When the sheep started the game with that system and went ahead, we needed to go to a 4132, one up front against a sweeper and two centre halves is fucking awful, 2 up front and two of the attacking 3 mids running into the space behind the wingbacks, dragging either centre half out to make it a 1v1 battle in the box between either of our strikers and their defenders, I know our system is built for fullbacks attacking, but we have shown we can change that to good effect, parkhead last october we played against a 352 essentially, tav and barisic were more defensive which drew out the wingbacks, giving us so much space in behind Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,281 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Ideal world we would bring in a CB. One injury away from either Bassey or Simpson starting games and neither are good enough at CB. A creative midfielder who can move the ball around quickly. Supposedly this was Bacuna yet he can't get into the starting 11. Finally another winger like Kent with pace and creativity. If Goldson is showing zero intent to sign a new deal punt him for what we can get. However with our current finances I don't expect much in the window. A loan deal maybe. HG5, BlueAvenger and falkirkNS 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarvelmarvel 796 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 6 hours ago, 6superbarry6 said: How long until he’s out again though i always felt big george edmunson would come good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,152 Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, STEPPS BOY said: I get the premise but let’s be honest here, Sakala isn’t the answer and Wright can be a nice player but he’s not going to score 15/20 goals or creat 10-15. If it was easy as just having pace then Jordon Jones/ O’Halloran would still be at club. There’s not having pace then there is painfully slow which our current first choice forward line is though HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,152 Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, BlueThunder said: I couldn’t believe we had Alfie, Roofe and Hagi all looking like they were running through treacle at times. I guess the management team think we are going to be camped near their boxes so lack of pace isn’t an issue.l, but it was last night when we tried to play balls though. Couple times Hagi looked to be in but couldn’t get there ahead of the defender it really is a shame as he’d be a top talent if he had another yard or two of pace. BlueThunder 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,152 Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Number5 said: He's the difference no doubt. This season aside. Even when he's been poor the threat alone makes teams double up creating space for others. When he's on it he changes the whole dynamic and pace of a game. Need him to come back firing. Our whole season could hinge on a fit Ryan Kent returning to form BlueAvenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,808 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, 6superbarry6 said: Our whole season could hinge on a fit Ryan Kent returning to form and Ryan Jack. 6superbarry6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amokachi 3,005 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: Couple times Hagi looked to be in but couldn’t get there ahead of the defender it really is a shame as he’d be a top talent if he had another yard or two of pace. He isn’t mobile or fast enough to do the role he was put in last night. That’s as much from a defending point of view to an attacking one. 6superbarry6 and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,886 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: There’s not having pace then there is painfully slow which our current first choice forward line is though I get that but Sakala and Wright aren’t the answer. 6superbarry6 and BlueAvenger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,152 Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: I get that but Sakala and Wright aren’t the answer. Not saying they’re the answer long term but surely can stand in for a few games for an injured player(Kent) if we can’t trust them to do this then there’s literally no point in them being in the squad Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 6 hours ago, esquire8 said: Can have all the options in the world. If Helander comes back then its him and Goldson at the back with Balogun on the bench. Bringing Katic back to sit in the stands won't do him any good at all. Katic is finished here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,496 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, 6superbarry6 said: Not saying they’re the answer long term but surely can stand in for a few games for an injured player(Kent) if we can’t trust them to do this then there’s literally no point in them being in the squad I actually think Wright if played on the right as a winger for a good run of games would come good. He’s actually pretty good at beating his marker and getting to the byeline, look at the chance he created for arfield when he hit the bar against st Mirren. He has pace, he’s direct and he doesn’t shy away. Whilst Kent is out he’s the best we have at that type of play. Aribo is great at just ploughing forward and keeping the ball, drawing defenders in but he never knows when to release the ball to someone who can pick another player in the space he has created. I feel we need to start hitting the byeline and fizzing crosses across the face of the goal or cutting back to on rushing midfielders, the let’s all stand on the edge of our opponents box and play it side ways just has all the feelings of when it collapsed with warburton jamess, HG5 and bluenoz 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,808 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Sakala, Bacuna and Wright will never be able to show their true potential (good or bad) by playing the odd 20 minutes. It is too easy to say they are not good enough when playing bit part roles. They need to start for 3 or 4 games in a row and then we can give a proper assessment. To me, they all look like they have potential. Why bother signing them if you are going to remain steadfast to the old core? falkirkNS, NeoGeo7 and HG5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,496 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, bluenoz said: Sakala, Bacuna and Wright will never be able to show their true potential (good or bad) by playing the odd 20 minutes. It is too easy to say they are not good enough when playing bit part roles. They need to start for 3 or 4 games in a row and then we can give a proper assessment. To me, they all look like they have potential. Why bother signing them if you are going to remain steadfast to the old core? Especially when the old core are massively underperforming. bluenoz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,152 Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, NeoGeo7 said: I actually think Wright if played on the right as a winger for a good run of games would come good. He’s actually pretty good at beating his marker and getting to the byeline, look at the chance he created for arfield when he hit the bar against st Mirren. He has pace, he’s direct and he doesn’t shy away. Whilst Kent is out he’s the best we have at that type of play. Aribo is great at just ploughing forward and keeping the ball, drawing defenders in but he never knows when to release the ball to someone who can pick another player in the space he has created. I feel we need to start hitting the byeline and fizzing crosses across the face of the goal or cutting back to on rushing midfielders, the let’s all stand on the edge of our opponents box and play it side ways just has all the feelings of when it collapsed with warburton I agree, when Kent is out we should be starting Wright we are far too slow and predictable currently Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,886 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: Not saying they’re the answer long term but surely can stand in for a few games for an injured player(Kent) if we can’t trust them to do this then there’s literally no point in them being in the squad Sakala is absolutely awful. The Zambian Brandon Barker. BlueAvenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,152 Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Sakala is absolutely awful. The Zambian Brandon Barker. Had more of an impact than Roofe last night tbh, no prepared to write Sakala off totally yet had a decent scoring record in a tougher league than ours last season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Sakala is absolutely awful. The Zambian Brandon Barker. Without him last night there would have been no penalty so no draw his pace and directness along with Wright caused them problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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