SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: We spent £7 million on a loan signing that never even won the league or actually even looked as close to being as good as Jota was for them last season, nobody/barely nobody on here or within the support was saying that was us standing still. Its not about how succesful they were or how poor our signings were. To keep two of their apparent star performers from last season they've had to now pay 10m plus. So for the same team including those two, they're 10m lighter in the pocket. How is that not them standing still (ie same players) for a 10m additional cost this season? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fin8577 402 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 So far this window has been underwhelming but I hope the guys we have brought in show up and contribute and make me eat my words. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, fin8577 said: So far this window has been underwhelming but I hope the guys we have brought in show up and contribute and make me eat my words. Genuine question. What were you expecting from the transfer window to date? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,831 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 With the addition of Lawrence, could we maybe move Kent to the right side? I know he switches occasionally during games, but not often. After all, he is right-footed and good with both feet. Just trying to get the starting 11 in my head, especially if we get Fulgini. The team is looking strong. The main issue is these nagging injuries to the usual suspects. OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 2,734 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 The problem is the status quo doesn’t work for us and is fine for them. They won the league by 4 points and finished stronger. I think our best starting eleven is better. But their bench quality when somebody gets injured is far closer to their first team. They aren’t bringing on Davis and Arfield that’s for sure. We suffered so badly with injuries last season. So the onus is on us to improve and get 5-10 points more. We have to gamble on a few signings that can potentially be first team quality (even if they are free or lower cost). Rather than settle on Davis, Arfield and McGregor which we all know at their ages aren’t. They just aren’t 93+ points a season spl players anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,459 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 39 minutes ago, OrangeRab said: The problem is the status quo doesn’t work for us and is fine for them. They won the league by 4 points and finished stronger. I think our best starting eleven is better. But their bench quality when somebody gets injured is far closer to their first team. They aren’t bringing on Davis and Arfield that’s for sure. We suffered so badly with injuries last season. So the onus is on us to improve and get 5-10 points more. We have to gamble on a few signings that can potentially be first team quality (even if they are free or lower cost). Rather than settle on Davis, Arfield and McGregor which we all know at their ages aren’t. They just aren’t 93+ points a season spl players anymore. I think we’ll finish on more points than we did last season. Had a howling period under Gerrard and then under Gio after the break. Points dropped at Ibrox were bordering on ridiculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, OrangeRab said: Baffling that we’ve decided to prioritise Davis, Arfield and McGregor. We have so much squad filler as it is. Lowry and McCann should have been able to step up and fill the bench role. If we can’t give them that shot when Davis is going to be 38 then when. Arguably none of those 3 should have been retained. Rather than saying we prioritised those three, I would tend to look at it more from the angle that they were a lot easier to negotiate with, I would imagine all three would have seen their wages trimmed, clearly all three have been happy to accept, on the other hand Alfie & Kent are assests and obviously are looking for more money, maybe more than we can afford at this stage, if we can free up some deadwood wages, it surely isn't inconceivable that their is scope to throw 6 or 7k a week extra into their new deals Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,467 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 3 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Its not about how succesful they were or how poor our signings were. To keep two of their apparent star performers from last season they've had to now pay 10m plus. So for the same team including those two, they're 10m lighter in the pocket. How is that not them standing still (ie same players) for a 10m additional cost this season? I’m not saying they’re not standing still, I just find it funny after we waited months to do the same thing and nobody was caring about us standing still. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: I’m not saying they’re not standing still, I just find it funny after we waited months to do the same thing and nobody was caring about us standing still. We were caring, we were delighted on the whole to get the deal done. We also knew it took the biggest wedge we'd been able to pay for a player in donks, it was hugely important. I guess we saw it as an investment given how little spare cash we had. But to know you're getting 40m from CL and spend around a third of that on 2 players you had on loan the previous season is great for them. And for us. I'm delighted they've had to spend that money on the pair of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 2,734 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, hammer93 said: Rather than saying we prioritised those three, I would tend to look at it more from the angle that they were a lot easier to negotiate with, I would imagine all three would have seen their wages trimmed, clearly all three have been happy to accept, on the other hand Alfie & Kent are assests and obviously are looking for more money, maybe more than we can afford at this stage, if we can free up some deadwood wages, it surely isn't inconceivable that their is scope to throw 6 or 7k a week extra into their new deals Yeh I agree they’re going to be on reduced wages. But just from a squad numbers view. We now have Sands, Hagi, Lowry, Mcann, Wright, Sakala as bench cover. So add in Davis and Arfield. There’s no room to sign anyone on loan or take a punt. Would we be better off having gambled on 3 new free/loans/cheap deals and potentially getting a midfielder who can improve us and get us a few wins. Rather than just adding to the multitude of average squad players we have. graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboBear 162 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 I think we've done enough to get through the CL qualifier. How we perform in that will give an indication of how the play off round will go. Also by that time the players whose future is currently unknown should be settled. Time will tell, and things might change, but as it stands I think we might come up short in the CL play offs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,824 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 08/07/2022 at 20:15, ForeverAndEver said: We spent £7 million on a loan signing that never even won the league or actually even looked as close to being as good as Jota was for them last season, nobody/barely nobody on here or within the support was saying that was us standing still. If you are talking about Ramsey then we paid a loan fee of £2 million. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,467 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said: If you are talking about Ramsey then we paid a loan fee of £2 million. I’m talking about Kent Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10pshortof17pound 2,492 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said: If you are talking about Ramsey then we paid a loan fee of £2 million. That is pish and you’re perpetuating a myth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,824 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: I’m talking about Kent Fair enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,824 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, 10pshortof17pound said: That is pish and you’re perpetuating a myth. Explain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10pshortof17pound 2,492 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said: Explain. We did not pay a loan fee of £2m. Show me different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,824 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, 10pshortof17pound said: We did not pay a loan fee of £2m. Show me different. I will post you links later. What do you think we paid? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,824 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 4 hours ago, 10pshortof17pound said: We did not pay a loan fee of £2m. Show me different. https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/rangers-fc-news/aaron-ramsey-loan-fee-revealed/ https://www.ibroxnews.com/2022/01/31/rangers-paying-2m-to-loan-aaron-ramsey-have-buy-clause-report/ https://www.givemesport.com/1831191-rangers-transfer-news-key-update-reveals-aaron-ramsey-fee-paid-to-juventus https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/17493973/rangers-aaron-ramsey-transfer-juventus-arsenal/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 We all a bit more relaxed about recruitment yet? 👍 BigBearButt, Bears r us and kelvd1873 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBearButt 3,627 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: We all a bit more relaxed about recruitment yet? 👍 Yes. Would still like another striker added (and roofe binned) real boydie9 and SeparateEntityMyArse 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,831 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Tony Weston has joined Partick on loan. We seem to have a good connection with Thistle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,078 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 32 minutes ago, bluenoz said: Tony Weston has joined Partick on loan. We seem to have a good connection with Thistle. With Ian McCall, think McKinnon is away there too. bluenoz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,594 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 45 minutes ago, BigBearButt said: Yes. Would still like another striker added (and roofe binned) Nobody would take Roofe with his injuries. We would struggle to make our money back Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 9,349 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Last 3rd needing strengthened, players brought in to play in final 3rd; time will tell if they are quality but improvement on the position this time last week. Step in the right direction. Time to tie up contracts for Morelos and Kent or they need moved on this summer and replaced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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