Popular Post Canabear 4,538 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 HEAVEN help us if Kyogo Furuhashi had missed. Can you imagine the uproar had the celtic striker blazed his shot over the crossbar at Ibrox last Monday? Drawing 2-2 was bad enough for some Hoops supporters and their media cheerleaders. Had they actually lost to Rangers, we’d be talking about a full-scale meltdown. Ange Postecoglou has even chipped in, claiming everyone would have been up in arms if the spot-kick incident had been at the other end of the pitch. Where has he been this past week, the moon? Because all I’ve heard and listened to is moans and groans about how wronged Celts were. Ange insists he’s only thinking of the teams in danger of being relegated because this could affect them down the line. Sure he is. Let’s get it right. This is just another attempt to keep the celtic supporters riled into believing the world is against them. Let’s conveniently gloss over the fact the rules of the game state the handball incident with Connor Goldson is never a penalty. Honestly, some of the guff that’s been talked about and written this past week, by people who should know better, has been staggering. But that’s where we’re at. It pays some people’s bills to have a pop at Scotland’s top referees. My big pal Chris Sutton is always blaming someone. Remember how he accused Dunfermline’s players of lying down to Gers on the last day of the 2002-03 season? He wasn’t moaning about penalties as celtic lost the title when Alan Thompson got one and booted it over the bar at Kilmarnock. Our referees DO make mistakes. They are only human. And there have been times this season when celtic have been on the wrong end of bad decisions. They were denied a clear penalty against Hearts at Tynecastle for a handball inside the box. But every supporter of every club in the country could point to incidents that have gone against their team. Not every handball is a penalty kick. Not every bit of contact is a foul. But for some, it’s as though it has to be. They say Old Firm whistler John Beaton should have at least gone to the monitor to review the Goldson incident. That the VAR, Willie Collum, should have instructed Beaton to take another look. But that’s not how this piece of technology works. The ref saw the incident in real time and made his decision. VAR is only there to help him if he thinks he’s made a mistake. And going by the rules of the game, which state Goldson is allowed to protect his face when the ball is smashed at him from three yards, it’s NOT a penalty. But then the pundits claiming VAR should have intervened are the same ones who would probably hammer VAR for re-refereeing games and controlling the refs if they stepped in all the time. It’s the outrage that gets me. Andy Walker had an argument with one celtic fan on radio this week which was staggering. To claim our game is corrupt is baffling beyond belief when you think they have been the dominant team in Scotland over the last decade. Some people get it into their heads that our referees have an allegiance to certain clubs. They seem to forget that a huge percentage of the players who play in Scotland support celtic. What do they do when they run out at Parkhead, roll over? Of course not. I’m sick and tired of the conspiracy theories that get bandied about by Hoops fans and former players. Do some people genuinely believe the game is rigged? Maybe we should just let celtic win everything. Our referees would then be able to sleep at night without worrying about some idiot attacking them in the street. Because I genuinely fear that’s where this is all leading. If we’re not careful someone is going to get hurt. Duncn, CXB, bobbyrussell and 52 others 55 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toolongawake 978 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 The last point about the possiblity of a referee being attacked on the street is probably bang on in all honesty, it feels like it is inevitable. scottyscott1963, sRcFoCt, MurrayWilson and 11 others 14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Assegai 5,627 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 I'm glad we have someone like Boyd in the media. Real Ranger, CXB, plymouthranger and 13 others 16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LegendofCoop 16,392 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 Coisty giving it to that Canadian gimp too! stevieblueblood, Bad Robot, HG5 and 17 others 20 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jakes Pal 5,069 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 Eeets an eeenjusteeece..... Not a single person involved in any way with Scottish football will have been surprised at Calimero FC's meltdown over VAR. After all they have been complaining about, and trying to pressurize/influence match officials basically since the very first day that Brother Walfrid had his idea for milking an extra few Bob from his dirt poor parishioners. The reptile that is Tom English got one thing right when he stated that Them do not want the correct decisions in games, they want all of them. If only the SFA would grow a pair and start dealing with unfounded complaints against officials in the same way that they deal with clearly unrealistic appeals against red cards, and start hitting Them (and any other Club guilty of doing so) with disrepute charges with escalating sanctions up to and including points deductions. Will not be holding my breath waiting for that to happen mind you. Bears r us, Bobby Hume, VERITAS VOS LIBREBETS and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scottyscott1963 17,219 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 7 hours ago, Canabear said: If we’re not careful someone is going to get hurt. Hugh Dallas agrees with this. He's been assaulted on the park and had his windows put in at his home. Bears r us, BlueAvenger, Bobby Hume and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWilson 3,015 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Kris is spot on. We have actually got to the point where we have media pundits, players and managers advocating just ignoring the rules. Just cos. Where would that end? Danger goalkeepers? Next goals the winner? Bears r us and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CXB 3,652 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Assegai said: I'm glad we have someone like Boyd in the media. We need him, Rangers are not going to say anything ! scottyscott1963, Assegai, Bobby Hume and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ted E Bayer 432 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 9 minutes ago, CXB said: We need him, Rangers are not going to say anything ! Agreed. It's unfortunate as it feels like it's: Kris Boyd v celtic Kris Boyd v the celtic manager Kris Boyd v the BBC Kris Boyd v John Hartson Kris Boyd v Chris Sutton Kris Boyd v Andy Walker Kris Boyd v Michael Stewart Kris Boyd v Hugh Keevins I'm sure there are a handful of others I've missed but either way I'm not sure that it's a war one of our ex players can win on his own, unfortunately. Bears r us, dougie76, JimmyCR1 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffbear 4,082 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 There's something no right about them HG5, Bears r us, scottyscott1963 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post the cry was no 2,961 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 6 minutes ago, MurrayWilson said: Kris is spot on. We have actually got to the point where we have media pundits, players and managers advocating just ignoring the rules. Just cos. Where would that end? Danger goalkeepers? Next goals the winner? Auld Rolf said yesterday that if there was a simple explanation someone would have given it. Several qualified people have explained it simply quoting the IFAB rules. Rolf (who never questions the officials btw) calls this "mental gymnastics" and 5 days after the event 90% of the moon howlers are still banging on about the "penalty" not being awarded THIS IS 100% ABOUT THE FUTURE AND CONTINUING TO PUT MAXIMUM PRESSURE ON OFFICIALS There is very little between us and them and he knows it, they've had more favourable decisions last season and this than unfavourable. They are nett beneficiaries from refereeing decisions since Rolf arrived but still play the victim. The 9 point lead flatters them even at a time when we have been way below par. Rolf knows this Players are coming back, we will add some new blood, we have a more aggressive style of play and we are re-establishing an identity on the pitch that is a million miles away from what Gio subjected us to. Rolf knows this We will get fitter and stronger, we will drop points along the way and the 9 points will probably be too much to claw back but we can match and and pass them again and need to re-set and consolidate this season. Rolf knows this They've done well but have had a decent share of decisions and fortune. Rolf knows this Rolf doesn't like pressure............... importantly Beale knows this and is clever enough to subtly apply pressure MurrayWilson, bobbyrussell, Blue Rino and 6 others 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jakes Pal 5,069 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 55 minutes ago, scottyscott1963 said: Hugh Dallas agrees with this. He's been assaulted on the park and had his windows put in at his home. From A Herald article 2000. Rows over referees and their decisions have bedevilled Scottish football for as long as I have been watching the game. The current furore over the man who is recognised as the country's top official, Hugh Dallas, is therefore nothing new, except for the weekend revelations that celtic have had his actions during last season's Premier League decider examined - along with the rest of the match - by a top behavioural psychologist. From same article. Hence celtic supporters hiring private investigators to follow referee Jim McCluskey some years ago because a rumour had been started saying McCluskey was a member of the Orange Lodge. The fact that no such evidence was found did not deter some supporters from remaining convinced that the allegations were correct. As far as Them and their supporters directly affecting individual referees lives, that particular boat sailed a long time ago. Bobby Hume, HG5, scottyscott1963 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItaliaSyksey 36 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Big Boydy nailing it again. The pro celtic meltdowns which are engineered and carried forward by various media outlets, pundits and even their own staff is an absolute disgrace. Every time they don't win. It's a real shame we don't have more Kris Boyds in the media. Contrast to that wee prick Barry Ferguson and it's night and day. We don't want favouritism, they do, we don't want favours, they do, we don't want treated differently, they do, we don't want drama and controversy, they do. If f it's not Tom Boyd on CTV or Sutton on BT it's Hartson or one of their celebrity fans or worse still, an actual player and manager. Their inferiority complex is an illness and it's high time it was called out. Everywhere. It's a cancer. Johnston and AP should be hammered by our governing body but then we know they won't. Because celtic have them running scared as well. bobbyrussell, HG5, Helicopter Sundae and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights 2,526 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Us and them will get more favourable calls than other teams because it’s a bigger deal if the refs make mistakes against us. We’ll also get more penalties because we attack more and more fouls because we have the ball more. It’s the same in every league in the world HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 24,888 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 3 hours ago, toolongawake said: The last point about the possiblity of a referee being attacked on the street is probably bang on in all honesty, it feels like it is inevitable. Beaton would've needed 24hrs security of the cunts had lost again. Whilst the meltdown is funny the serious side is if someone gets badly injured or even killed as a result of this outrage those flaming it will be quick to distance themselves. I don't care what side the4 are on the truth is they should no better and stop trying to whip everyone up the minute they don't beat us HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA1972 8,213 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Well said Boyd, the kind of thing we need more of. Stop letting them control the narrative How long until Barry Fergusons out saying it was a pen and scum were robbed HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 12,510 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 7 minutes ago, GA1972 said: Well said Boyd, the kind of thing we need more of. Stop letting them control the narrative How long until Barry Fergusons out saying it was a pen and scum were robbed Think he came out with that the day after 🤣 Bears r us, HG5 and scottyscott1963 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 69,013 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 9 minutes ago, GA1972 said: Well said Boyd, the kind of thing we need more of. Stop letting them control the narrative How long until Barry Fergusons out saying it was a pen and scum were robbed He’s right here, but the spastic came out and said it’s a penalty for them and that ours wasn’t. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 16,900 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Boyd nails it. The usual pish this week when the scumbags don't get what they want. Looking to increase pressure so officials think twice about going against them. Always cheated never defeated. HG5, scottyscott1963 and Bears r us 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post esquire8 39,576 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 2 hours ago, Gaffbear said: There's something no right about them Yeah, they're tarriers. About as wrong as you get. dougie76, Bears r us, Gaffbear and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 59,399 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Don’t know how Boyd doesn’t see ours as a penalty though. Theirs and ours were both 100% correct decisions. Bobby Hume and ForeverAndEver 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canabear 4,538 Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 5 hours ago, toolongawake said: The last point about the possiblity of a referee being attacked on the street is probably bang on in all honesty, it feels like it is inevitable. You mean something like this? scottyscott1963 and Bears 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Inigo 31,776 Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 Every single time there's a collective national handwringing about some element of refereeing it begins with a sellic supposedly being hard done by moment, normally when they haven't actually been hard done by. It's usually a week long pouring over a decision v Celtic. Every fucking time. Anyone else and it's for a day at best, that's if you hear about it at all. The complete phantom complaints on this occasion are arguably the most ridiculous so far. HG5, SeparateEntityMyArse, Bears r us and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the cry was no 2,961 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 28 minutes ago, Inigo said: Every single time there's a collective national handwringing about some element of refereeing it begins with a sellic supposedly being hard done by moment, normally when they haven't actually been hard done by. It's usually a week long pouring over a decision v celtic. Every fucking time. Anyone else and it's for a day at best, that's if you hear about it at all. The complete phantom complaints on this occasion are arguably the most ridiculous so far. Their grievance train is a very well oiled machine HG5, scottyscott1963 and dougie76 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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