mitre_mouldmaster 21,508 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 We lost one game. It was 2-1, a pretty even game with us coming within the width of a post of equalising and various other chances. Its was a hard fought game that could have went either way. It was the first loss of Beale's tenure. He has spent fuck all so far to bring in Raskin and Cantwell, meanwhile across the city, they have spent about £50m on players under their manger. People need to calm it with the doom and gloom, with ridiculous claims like people wanting Beale removed etc. Losing always hurts, especially with that lot, but holy fuck, calm down with the hysteria. Laudrupsleftfoot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaudrup 4,538 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Reported. WeeJacksonRFC and gmcf 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ForeverAndEver 68,975 Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 Christ almighty. We lost one game, biggest game of the season, in a game that the manager made one right decision, and even that came too late. We were never winning that game. We never spent fuck all bringing them in. Swagger, 2nd Flute, STEPPS BOY and 26 others 29 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post G.E.C. 17,904 Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 At first I thought this was going to be a “remember where we were in 2012” like thread. WeeJacksonRFC, Bydo, CR3 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 7,785 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: We lost one game. It was 2-1, a pretty even game with us coming within the width of a post of equalising and various other chances. Its was a hard fought game that could have went either way. It was the first loss of Beale's tenure. He has spent fuck all so far to bring in Raskin and Cantwell, meanwhile across the city, they have spent about £50m on players under their manger. People need to calm it with the doom and gloom, with ridiculous claims like people wanting Beale removed etc. Losing always hurts, especially with that lot, but holy fuck, calm down with the hysteria. Fuck off WeeJacksonRFC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prso's headband 34,024 Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 Ah that old chestnut. Looking forward to a similar thread when we’re the second most successful team in football this time next year. But perspective mearns loyal, DW1872, BlueKnight87 and 6 others 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Somemightsay7 1,914 Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 25% less Possession. 21% less Shots. 60% less Shot on Target. 50% less Goals. But yes, an even game. The No.9, Zappa6995, The Beast and 10 others 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluebells 6,898 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 What exactly are the positives? For me one of the points that makes yesterday worse is believing maybe Beale would try something new but instead went with the same game plan that has seen them walk all over us so many times before. There’s fuck all to be positive about with Rangers just now, hopefully he learns from it and I can look back on this as being wrong but honestly see no positives at all. Juniorsparkie, HG5, WeeJacksonRFC and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guest Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: Ah that old chestnut. Looking forward to a similar thread when we’re the second most successful team in football this time next year. But perspective Aye, the perspective is that we've been absolutely fucking dominated for years, they're lightyears ahead of us on and off the park with numerous high-value assets and we have a board in place who are happy with it because we won 55. Tinpot as fuck Jelavic191, Weegeorge8, AGM_72 and 28 others 31 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prso's headband 34,024 Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, psb07158 said: Aye, the perspective is that we've been absolutely fucking dominated for years, they're lightyears ahead of us on and off the park with numerous high-value assets and we have a board in place who are happy with it because we won 55. Tinpot as fuck Probably 5 trebles under the board’s guidance. Going full circle from being dominated to winning a single title back to happy with the crumbs from their table in the space of 2 years is mind numbing. Paisley Blue Loyal, WeeJacksonRFC, MacBoyd and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wafflesniffer 399 Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 18 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: People need to calm it with the doom and gloom The doom and gloom is completely and utterly justified. The executive board only care about themselves and vanity projects like NEH. From the outside there is no coherent plan to overhaul the tarriers; if anything there's clearly an acceptance of being second best providing we qualify for Europe and tick off a few commercial objectives. The team is stagnant and the recruitment department responsible for resolving that, is incompetent. Many of the players have been here for too long and have chucked it and/or do not have the mentality to be champions. We have no real, sellable assets - certainly on current form, anyway. Beale was getting the benefit of the doubt given results but a blind man can see we've been riding our luck in terms of performances and yesterday was absolutely the worst day to commit his first managerial mistakes. His chat re. "buying starters" but then giving "this team" a chance doesn't help. Perhaps the result is still raw but I all I can see is us now going through the motions to the end of the season, no doubt bottling the Scottish Cup, hearing the same platitudes etc. RangersMedia, gmcf, HG5 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Bear 529 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 There for the taking, gutless from top to bottom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,508 Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 21 minutes ago, psb07158 said: Aye, the perspective is that we've been absolutely fucking dominated for years, they're lightyears ahead of us on and off the park with numerous high-value assets and we have a board in place who are happy with it because we won 55. Tinpot as fuck Everyone before yesterdays final was on a high. People utterly convinced we were going to give them a doing. Everyone banging on with posts about how we had actually won so many of the last Old Firm games with far fewer defeats etc. Didnt hear many people talking about them dominating us and expecting us to get thrashed 2 days ago. Yes they are richer than us at the minute. Yes they have went out and spent £50m+ on players in the last few seasons and we have not. This gives them an advantage. Yes the board have made mistakes, but for the number of people to be coming out and claiming Beale is a dud and we should get rid of him is utterly fucking mental. Like it or not, but we dont have the money that that mob have. They used the 10 years we were away (Or rebuilding) to cement themselves financially. Like it or not, but this means we go in every season as underdogs until we change it. That will require probably a combination of us getting things right, as we appear to have done with Beale on current showing, and also them to fuck things up a bit. If their board and football department do things right, and our board and football department do things right, then they are still favourites and will likely win. We have to cease the opportunity at the point they make a mistake to make it count. Yesterday was not the gulf that many are making it seem. They did not give us a battering like we seen under GVB. We did not see two teams £50m apart. This season is about building a platform for next season. Next season is about building a platform for the one after. It will likely take them getting a bit stale, or the manager leaving for another post, and at that point, we have to be ready to take advantage of the turmoil and hope they dont get lucky with whatever solution they find. That is the reality of where we are. We cant just sack the board, bring in a Billionaire fan to take over and fuck off Uefa FFP rules and spend £50m. Get real people. Master_Betty and CharlieT 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SeparateEntityMyArse 52,049 Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 That mob turn up in almost every game domestically. They rarely drop points.However their system is flawed when playing against better teams with good players. That should be us, has been us, could be us again. But for it to happen against them we need our best available players playing from the start, every player up for it and at least matching their direct opponents energy / runs / fight etc. We need to cut out slackness that leads to goals against and take our chances when they come. We're failing badly with form despite 12/13 wins, we need to get tempo and quality to really hurt teams and get our confidence back and teams fearing us. Performing well in 2 halves of any games would be a great start tbh. Genuine perspective is we could beat them but are failing to get close to hitting our own heights and unless we address this we'll lose more than we win against that mob, whichll continue to cost us titles and cups. Board, Beale and players all culpable. Bad Robot, crazy bob swollenbaws, Ayrshire Blue and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somemightsay7 1,914 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 10 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Everyone before yesterdays final was on a high. People utterly convinced we were going to give them a doing. Everyone banging on with posts about how we had actually won so many of the last Old Firm games with far fewer defeats etc. Didnt hear many people talking about them dominating us and expecting us to get thrashed 2 days ago. Yes they are richer than us at the minute. Yes they have went out and spent £50m+ on players in the last few seasons and we have not. This gives them an advantage. Yes the board have made mistakes, but for the number of people to be coming out and claiming Beale is a dud and we should get rid of him is utterly fucking mental. Like it or not, but we dont have the money that that mob have. They used the 10 years we were away to cement themselves financially. Like it or not, but this means we go in every season as underdogs until we change it. That will require probably a combination of us getting things right, as we appear to have done with Beale on current showing, and also them to fuck things up a bit. If their board and football department do things right, and our board and football department do things right, then they are still favourites and will likely win. We have to cease the opportunity at that point to make it count. Yesterday was not the gulf that many are making it seem. They did not give us a battering like we seen under GVB. We did not see two teams £50m apart. This season is about building a platform for next season. Next season is about building a platform for the one after. It will likely take them getting a bit stale, or the manager leaving for another post, and at that point, we have to be ready to take advantage of the turmoil and hope they dont get lucky with whatever solution they find. That is the reality of where we are. We cant just sack the board, bring in a Billionaire fan to take over and fuck off Uefa FFP rules and spend £50m. Get real people. Your first post was all about how it was just one close loss, not to overreact and calm it with the doom and gloom, but now you're making a huge post about how far behind we are, that we can't compete with them and even if our board do things right we'll still lose to them. Make your mind up. The person overreacting most here is you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 8,836 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 We have a complete rebuild job needed in the summer, we don’t have the financial backing to do this so I feel we’re in for some tough viewing across a few seasons now where they will surpass our total trophy haul and 55. Our board plan for being second best and that’s what we get, that’s the perspective to focus on. Our whole approach to managing players contracts, purchases, etc is so flawed it’s absolutely reeking with pish. From Matondo to Ridvan to the potential £££s for Tillman and compare that with what them across the city paid for their midfielders that dominated the game tells you everything you need to know about our approach under Wilson. Not one of our board will be concerned about my first paragraph above. Swagger and BlueAvenger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,508 Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 10 minutes ago, Wafflesniffer said: The doom and gloom is completely and utterly justified. The executive board only care about themselves and vanity projects like NEH. From the outside there is no coherent plan to overhaul the tarriers; if anything there's clearly an acceptance of being second best providing we qualify for Europe and tick off a few commercial objectives. The team is stagnant and the recruitment department responsible for resolving that, is incompetent. Many of the players have been here for too long and have chucked it and/or do not have the mentality to be champions. We have no real, sellable assets - certainly on current form, anyway. Beale was getting the benefit of the doubt given results but a blind man can see we've been riding our luck in terms of performances and yesterday was absolutely the worst day to commit his first managerial mistakes. His chat re. "buying starters" but then giving "this team" a chance doesn't help. Perhaps the result is still raw but I all I can see is us now going through the motions to the end of the season, no doubt bottling the Scottish Cup, hearing the same platitudes etc. Things like NEH are absolutely vital for us to increase our annual turnover going forward which allows us more spend in line with Uefa FFP. It would be absolute negligence if the board were not looking at ways to grow us off the park. Ladytonbear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger 7,012 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Perspective ? Fashion Sakala is now a first pick. It wasn’t an even game. They cut through us easily. They have another league in the bag and Champions league money on the way and are heading towards another treble. If we can’t sort our squad in the summer there’s a good chance they’ll canter to the title next season too. So many in our squad are not good enough. Most of them could go and wouldn’t be missed. BlueAvenger, Drunk and disorderly. and plymouthranger 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post graeme_4 31,482 Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 What yesterday told me is that they aren’t that good, but that we’re even worse. As a minimum their players always burst a gut, while ours either can’t or won’t match it. And our manager has fucked it twice against them in the space of 2 months, making it a very miserable run in to the end of the season. JCDBigBear, Monty Zoomer, Bad Robot and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,508 Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, Somemightsay7 said: Your first post was all about how it was just one close loss, not to overreact and calm it with the doom and gloom, but now you're making a huge post about how far behind we are, that we can't compete with them and even if our board do things right we'll still lose to them. Make your mind up. The person overreacting most here is you. I suppose it would be if you completely ignored these lines :- "Yesterday was not the gulf that many are making it seem. They did not give us a battering like we seen under GVB. We did not see two teams £50m apart. This season is about building a platform for next season. Next season is about building a platform for the one after. It will likely take them getting a bit stale, or the manager leaving for another post, and at that point, we have to be ready to take advantage of the turmoil and hope they dont get lucky with whatever solution they find." There is nothing over the top about this. There is no dramatic calls from me to sack the manager for his FIRST loss. Its just a factual look at whats going on. Right now they are richer than us and have a manager who is matching our results against everyone else in Scotland and the old firms are very close. We have drawn one and lost one since Beale came in. We are doing well, they are just doing better at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 20,703 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Ah well everything’s fine then, can only get better …because? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Ranger 3,116 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 49 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: We lost one game. It was 2-1, a pretty even game with us coming within the width of a post of equalising and various other chances. Its was a hard fought game that could have went either way. It was the first loss of Beale's tenure. He has spent fuck all so far to bring in Raskin and Cantwell, meanwhile across the city, they have spent about £50m on players under their manger. People need to calm it with the doom and gloom, with ridiculous claims like people wanting Beale removed etc. Losing always hurts, especially with that lot, but holy fuck, calm down with the hysteria. Well said. 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven33jackie 1,797 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I didn't see any positives yesterday. We have a young manager who to a certain extent should be fearless. But he opted for the tried and tested and almost copied Gios previous tactics of containment and hope for a counter attack. We only played without fear and pushed forward when we were two down. Far to many of them have this one paced one dimensional game plan as the go to option every time they cross that line. Just over a week ago we were struggling against Partick for the same reasons. Yesterday was crying out for more mobility in midfield but he didn't make changes until it was too late. Bad Robot, Boybluesy and JCDBigBear 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluenoz 29,276 Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 The perspective is in the heading of another thread. - "two trophies in seven years" GWR1979, YankeeGer, Bears r us and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SkylineBlue 20,316 Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 Fucking hell. Some of our fans are really becoming accustomed to mediocrity. theclothmonster, Essandoh, JackAlex93 and 9 others 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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