Jamie0202 13,093 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 49 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Who was on VAR when the Roofe goal got chopped off? It was Alan Muir but let's not forget that Don Robertson ultimately made the call as he had final say once called to the monitor. Collum should have given Walsh the same opportunity. kelvd1873 and scottyscott1963 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Bear 971 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Watch the full game again mate I know it will hurt. I did sober yesterday. The whole game, outcome lies and coverup along behaviour from our Association since is a crime. Bad Robot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SkylineBlue 25,752 Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 Btw, if we're going after them, we should also be asking why our goal in the first old firm was ruled out for a foul, but Dessers wasn't given a penalty when Johnson committed the exact same foul on Saturday. We should be demanding an explanation of what the difference between the two incidents is. SeparateEntityMyArse, kelvd1873, scottyscott1963 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Bear 971 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 12 minutes ago, B1872 said: Said before we should be going for Walsh as well Collum after that performance. Absolutely disgusting! Not 100% for me Prove it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post B1872 21,931 Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 We need to see this through and see people lose their jobs. The fact that Clancy still referees us and them after his performance in the New Year old firm back in 2019 shows that we seem to be fobbed off quite easily or just give up. If the likes of Walsh and Collum are sacked then the likes of Robertson, Clancy, Mulvaney and Connor will think twice about cheating in future. graeme_4, Blacky Bear, Bobby Hume and 10 others 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Bear 971 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, SkylineBlue said: Btw, if we're going after them, we should also be asking why our goal in the first old firm was ruled out for a foul, but Dessers wasn't given a penalty when Johnson committed the exact same foul on Saturday. We should be demanding an explanation of what the difference between the two incidents is. There is a fucking difference It's us and them, they have infiltrated all walks of our Society Fucking hate these cunts with a passion and more. Hadron Collider, alibali59 and Bad Robot 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post the cry was no 3,072 Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 8 minutes ago, rossco87 said: Glad someone else brought this one up as I have been amazed there hasn’t been more discussion over this. From the replays I saw it was clear there was contact on Dessers before the tackle was then made. Moreso when you consider the pedantics and minute details coupled with an obscure rule that was used to chalk off Roofe's opener at Ibrox Johnson hits Dessers at least twice and is nowhere near the ball. Penalty and second yellow. Chance to go 1-1 v 10 men with an hour to play Maeda wiped Cantwell out at Ibrox too and was nowhere near the ball Both were stonewall penalties that were rapidly dismissed as opposed to the forensic inspection of Roofe's goal These decisions are worth 10s of millions of pounds (as Clancy confirmed last season "we know what's at stake") If Roofe's goal stood and we went on to win and Desser gats the pen and a red and we go on to win we would currently be 2 ahead with 2 games in hand, Even 2 draws would mean 2 behind with 2 in hand The margins are fine but the consequences are enormous and they have benefitted consistently for a few seasons now Bobby Hume, five stars, AGC123 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,901 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Loyal72 said: To me Taylor plays on Sima. This is the correct still, not the one that was given to Sky with the lines drawn on it when the ball was already in play. So all the footage and audio needs to be reviewed imo. We could've had two penalties, celtic should've had nine men. Collum has previous of absolutely abysmal performances, but there's no way he can look at the handball that comes next and just write it off. He should never referee or be in charge of video refereeing technology ever again. The audio will show he simply waved it off as not handball. Hope we keep the pressure on, fling it all out there. Finish this cheating rat. Thats not the correct still, the ball is up at the celtic player’s knee (see arrow) Lundstram hits the ball early, so much so the ball is almost behind his body when he strikes it/digs it up. TheKingObv 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post the cry was no 3,072 Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 It appears the SPFL/SFA aren't at all keen to release the audio, which really should be very simple and straightforward these days Would anyone be surprise if something snide or unprofessional was said by Collum? These cunts think they're untouchable and unaccountable these days, sometimes it's the arrogance or complacency that starts the downfall. I'd be demanding the full 90 minutes of audio, particularly anything related to the "arrangement" with Sky to introduce the offside narrative a significant time after the event This stinks Leighton loyal, PromDeAnglais, scottyscott1963 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BlueSherbert90 19,654 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, the cry was no said: It appears the SPFL/SFA aren't at all keen to release the audio, which really should be very simple and straightforward these days Would anyone be surprise if something snide or unprofessional was said by Collum? These cunts think they're untouchable and unaccountable these days, sometimes it's the arrogance or complacency that starts the downfall. I'd be demanding the full 90 minutes of audio, particularly anything related to the "arrangement" with Sky to introduce the offside narrative a significant time after the event This stinks Appear to be hiding something or it wouldn't be an issue...they'll probably need to edit it before releasing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PromDeAnglais 6,765 Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 It's a fucking red neck to Sky as well. Never seen a game in the EPL or Champions Legaue where the half time panel are genuinely baffled and all in agreement and can't understand what has happened. Usually there is some sort of counter balance (even if incorrect) but even Lennon admitted if that had happened to him he would have lost the plot. Just cries amateur hour all round. Another embarrassing moment in the wasteland that is Scottish football. SANDYGER, scottyscott1963, Amokachi and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Colin Traive 23,862 Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, SkylineBlue said: Btw, if we're going after them, we should also be asking why our goal in the first old firm was ruled out for a foul, but Dessers wasn't given a penalty when Johnson committed the exact same foul on Saturday. We should be demanding an explanation of what the difference between the two incidents is. Would also like the corner that led to the first goal reviewed properly too. Said at the time the ball went out first before swinging back in and every replay I’ve seen only confirms this. Don't know who the linesman was but he was negligent at best. To be honest, the whole handling from start to finish needs independent review, the stench is overwhelming. Hadron Collider, Loyal72, Bears and 7 others 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,407 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 40 minutes ago, the cry was no said: It appears the SPFL/SFA aren't at all keen to release the audio, which really should be very simple and straightforward these days Would anyone be surprise if something snide or unprofessional was said by Collum? These cunts think they're untouchable and unaccountable these days, sometimes it's the arrogance or complacency that starts the downfall. I'd be demanding the full 90 minutes of audio, particularly anything related to the "arrangement" with Sky to introduce the offside narrative a significant time after the event This stinks More about what wasn’t said I’d say. Absence of any mention about offside then they are proven to have lied about why the penalty wasn’t given At that positions are untenable. Bad Robot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amokachi 3,422 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 26 minutes ago, PromDeAnglais said: It's a fucking red neck to Sky as well. Never seen a game in the EPL or Champions Legaue where the half time panel are genuinely baffled and all in agreement and can't understand what has happened. Usually there is some sort of counter balance (even if incorrect) but even Lennon admitted if that had happened to him he would have lost the plot. Just cries amateur hour all round. Another embarrassing moment in the wasteland that is Scottish football. The Sky panel look to have been given the go ahead by their producers prior to halftime to highlight & focus on the incident. Get the impression Sky at odds with the communications between VAR team and themselves as they pay a decent wedge to be fully, promptly & accurately informed of any noteable incidents. Obviously a lot more to come on this one. PromDeAnglais and crazy bob swollenbaws 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulboy 2,526 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, markem said: More about what wasn’t said I’d say. Absence of any mention about offside then they are proven to have lied about why the penalty wasn’t given At that positions are untenable. There obviously wasn't any mention of offside or a goal kick wouldn't have been given markem 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rossco87 796 Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 The more I think about everything that surrounded this game the angrier I am getting. Why was nothing made of the challenge on Dessers? Was there any VAR check carried out to confirm the ball hadn’t left play for their goal? Why was O’Rielly allowed to reenter / remain on the pitch when he was still bleeding following the first injury? Why was O’Reilly allowed to reenter / remain on the pitch with blood on his shirt after receiving treatment for the second impact? Also throw into the mix why isn’t the book being thrown at them for refusing to give us any tickets when they had been taken tribunal and told they had to? Whole thing stinks and is a direct result of years of getting their narrative out and people in positions to push their side. If the handball incident is the one we can “get” them on it needs to be pursued as aggressively as possible as a first step to ensuring there balance going forward. Bears r us, bluedart1952, SANDYGER and 7 others 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Bear 971 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, rossco87 said: The more I think about everything that surrounded this game the angrier I am getting. Why was nothing made of the challenge on Dessers? Was there any VAR check carried out to confirm the ball hadn’t left play for their goal? Why was O’Rielly allowed to reenter / remain on the pitch when he was still bleeding following the first injury? Why was O’Reilly allowed to reenter / remain on the pitch with blood on his shirt after receiving treatment for the second impact? Also throw into the mix why isn’t the book being thrown at them for refusing to give us any tickets when they had been taken tribunal and told they had to? Whole thing stinks and is a direct result of years of getting their narrative out and people in positions to push their side. If the handball incident is the one we can “get” them on it needs to be pursued as aggressively as possible as a first step to ensuring there balance going forward. Exactly here here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,390 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Collum showing as refereeing the Dundee v St Johnstone game tomorrow. You'd think if the SFA were in any way going to investigate our complaint about his involvement yesterday they'd remove him from tomorrow. They won't. crazy bob swollenbaws, Negri's lovechild and scottyscott1963 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 31,347 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 30 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Collum showing as refereeing the Dundee v St Johnstone game tomorrow. You'd think if the SFA were in any way going to investigate our complaint about his involvement yesterday they'd remove him from tomorrow. They won't. The football in Scotland is as corrupt as the bastards who are in charge in Holyrood, so we should not be surprised at anything mate. SeparateEntityMyArse, scottyscott1963 and TEFTONG 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 13,754 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 With how much shit was either not noticed, or officiated wrongly. We'd be as well having independent referees from another FA just reviewing the game in full. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 5,073 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 25 minutes ago, Bears r us said: The football in Scotland is as corrupt as the bastards who are in charge in Holyrood, so we should not be surprised at anything mate. It’s like the SNP. They are used to not being challenged and think if they just keep quiet it will go away. We need to start building a siege mentality at the club and take these people on. chris182, Bears r us and B1872 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 31,347 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 8 minutes ago, DrLaudrup said: It’s like the SNP. They are used to not being challenged and think if they just keep quiet it will go away. We need to start building a siege mentality at the club and take these people on. Spot on and I agree we need to take them on at every chance. scottyscott1963 and DrLaudrup 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERCOOPER 117 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Get the lawyers involved because either: 1) there is corruption 2) there is imcompetence either/or these officials should never be involved in a Rangers game ever again scottyscott1963, Bears r us, Bad Robot and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BlueSherbert90 19,654 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Collum showing as refereeing the Dundee v St Johnstone game tomorrow. You'd think if the SFA were in any way going to investigate our complaint about his involvement yesterday they'd remove him from tomorrow. They won't. We know fine nothing will get done until it is properly and continually exposed as well as challenged against these back pocket wankers. There will always be people who think he just simply "made a mistake" or every other excuse will be made instead. Bears r us and scottyscott1963 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 21,433 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 hours ago, the cry was no said: It appears the SPFL/SFA aren't at all keen to release the audio, which really should be very simple and straightforward these days Would anyone be surprise if something snide or unprofessional was said by Collum? These cunts think they're untouchable and unaccountable these days, sometimes it's the arrogance or complacency that starts the downfall. I'd be demanding the full 90 minutes of audio, particularly anything related to the "arrangement" with Sky to introduce the offside narrative a significant time after the event This stinks What have they got to hide Bears r us, Negri's lovechild, Redmond7 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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