Calling Decisions Out

[OrangeRab 3,399]

It gets worse when you watch it again in real time. Has 0 effect on the goal. Doesn’t really affect Hart at all either. He’s already flapping forward and getting nowhere near the ball.

 

[Unbearable 13]

I honestly don't think there's anything to go on about today. I'd have wanted it cancelled at the other end too.

If anyone wants to go on about something? Not today. How about the FACT that we have been degraded and conspired against for decades now. They want to break us. Today was nothing. Nothing. Everything else is where the shit lies.

[chris182 6,531]

Just now, Unbearable said:

I honestly don't think there's anything to go on about today. I'd have wanted it cancelled at the other end too.

If anyone wants to go on about something? Not today. How about the FACT that we have been degraded and conspired against for decades now. They want to break us. Today was nothing. Nothing. Everything else is where the shit lies.

Jesus. What chance we got.

[SuperLeeMcCulloch 2,496]

First image Walsh sees is a still of Raskin with his hands on Harts back, this is part of the problem with VAR, the full sequence is never shown so that first still of Raskin touching Hart is the one he remembers most.

[SkylineBlue 25,754]

12 minutes ago, Inigo said:

Yip, the problem with that is it'll have been judged to have had little impact. Loads of pulls aren't being given because of that atm.

Well, if we're judging impact then surely we need to also judge the impact that Raskin's hands on Hart makes, which is not very much?

The behind the whistle guys are saying impact isn't judged. As soon as your hands are on they'll give it. If that is the instruction our referees have then its a big fucking problem.

[bluenoz 32,505]

Rodger's called out Beaton and look what happens? A VAR decision in their favour.

Meanwhile, we show dignity and continue to take it up the arse.

It wasn't a big call Phil, it was the wrong call. Tell it how it is and take a suspension in support of the players ffs!

[Inigo 33,338]

2 minutes ago, SkylineBlue said:

Well, if we're judging impact then surely we need to also judge the impact that Raskin's hands on Hart makes, which is not very much?

The behind the whistle guys are saying impact isn't judged. As soon as your hands are on they'll give it. If that is the instruction our referees have then its a big fucking problem.

Yeah, but contact with the goalie, especially in the 6 yard box,  has been judged to a different standard for quite a long time. In normal circumstances that would be enough for a foul.

It clearly is judged. Otherwise all pulls would be a foul, and they aren't.

[BlueJacketRFC 7,630]

14 minutes ago, Unbearable said:

I honestly don't think there's anything to go on about today. I'd have wanted it cancelled at the other end too.

If anyone wants to go on about something? Not today. How about the FACT that we have been degraded and conspired against for decades now. They want to break us. Today was nothing. Nothing. Everything else is where the shit lies.

[magic8ball 27,904]

15 minutes ago, SuperLeeMcCulloch said:

First image Walsh sees is a still of Raskin with his hands on Harts back, this is part of the problem with VAR, the full sequence is never shown so that first still of Raskin touching Hart is the one he remembers most.

Not 100 of sure when they are using VAR .Are they only checking for infringement from one side .If that ball doesn’t go in the net it’s a penalty do the foul on Raskin first 

[Hilly86 722]

16 minutes ago, OrangeRab said:

Clement somewhat calls it out in the press conference. Wish he’d gone further.

Nobody at the club can ever quite seem to bring himself to comment on dubious or blatantly wrong decisions, without then going on to excuse the same errors of officials as honest mistakes. Giving decisions against Rangers in these games is  instinctive and without consequence or discomfort.

Stop making opponents and incompetents' jobs easier and your own might just be a whole lot more successful.

[MurrayWilson 3,720]

Actually thought the worst decision today was the booking for sterling. The chopped off goal was an easy get out for them. Their was a push from Raskin and VAR will always see that. The sterling booking was an absolute joke. Shocking from walsh. Not even a foul. Imagine he got another then was sent off ? You cant even appeal a yellow either. In cases like this thats simply not good enough. 

[bluenoz 32,505]

If the goal stands, we don't make those substitutions and the chances of winning 1-0 were probable. If anything, we bring on Jack or Lundstram before Wright or Matondo to shore things up.

[SkylineBlue 25,754]

2 minutes ago, Hilly86 said:

Nobody at the club can ever quite seem to bring himself to comment on dubious or blatantly wrong decisions, without then going on to excuse the same errors of officials as honest mistakes. Giving decisions against Rangers in these games is  instinctive and without consequence or discomfort.

Stop making opponents and incompetents' jobs easier and your own might just be a whole lot more successful.

This is a problem, even if I'm not convinced about this particular incident. 

They cunts had no problem naming John Beaton and painting a target on his back when things weren't going their way. The SFA gave Rodgers a slap on the wrist and that was it.

We don't seem to be willing to call out bad decisions with our whole chest and thats why they put pressure on officials and we don't.

[five stars 1,767]

Is that 3 goals we've had disallowed by Var against them this season?

[AGM_72 4,065]

Look I am fundamentally uninterested in conspiracies etc. But the decision to rule out our goal is a full on scandal. 

[BlueAvenger 10,756]

2 minutes ago, MurrayWilson said:

Actually thought the worst decision today was the booking for sterling. The chopped off goal was an easy get out for them. Their was a push from Raskin and VAR will always see that. The sterling booking was an absolute joke. Shocking from walsh. Not even a foul. Imagine he got another then was sent off ? You cant even appeal a yellow either. In cases like this thats simply not good enough. 

I thought the ref was fuckin awful today.

[OrangeRab 3,399]

2 minutes ago, five stars said:

Is that 3 goals we've had disallowed by Var against them this season?

5

[shaka 1,839]

It was corruption today.  Nothing but straight up corruption.  When we scored I just knew they would find something, anything to disallow it.  They were constantly fouling and having snide pushes and kicks at our players but nothing was looked at.  Things won't change until we fight back.

[Gaffbear 4,174]

[five stars 1,767]

There's now the independent review of VAR decisions.

If it continually goes more in there favour then we have evidence of potential bias.

 

[Colin Traive 23,877]

32 minutes ago, SkylineBlue said:

Well, if we're judging impact then surely we need to also judge the impact that Raskin's hands on Hart makes, which is not very much?

The behind the whistle guys are saying impact isn't judged. As soon as your hands are on they'll give it. If that is the instruction our referees have then its a big fucking problem.

If you give penalties or free kicks every time a player pushes an opponent (to whatever degree) as the ball comes into the box, games will end up 14-11.

[OrangeRab 3,399]

1 minute ago, five stars said:

There's now the independent review of VAR decisions.

If it continually goes more in there favour then we have evidence of potential bias.

 

We’ve had that already. 2 independent rounds of reviews have showed we’ve been on the wrong side of more decisions.

Its changed nothing.

The bigger problem is that there are a multitude of fouls that can “technically” be given in any game. Our problem is the ones against us are continually ignored.

And any ones that can be given, under the slightest umbrella that’s it’s a foul under the rules, are given.

So any shirt pulls or pushes are ignored against us. And vice versa. An independent panel can’t bring that up.

[SkylineBlue 25,754]

3 minutes ago, Colin Traive said:

If you give penalties or free kicks every time a player pushes an opponent (to whatever degree) as the ball comes into the box, games will end up 14-11.

I dont think it should have been a foul. I've never argued that.

[Nk89 1,440]

50 minutes ago, Negri's lovechild said:

Absolutely mental when you see it laid out like that. It isn't just inept officiating. 

Add in Var penalty for Oreilly not overturned, and the amount of times a ref has stuck with their decision after being sent to the monitor. When if they are sent to monitor it's usually inevitable that they are going to change their decision 

[Leftpegcoopz11 5,168]

12 minutes ago, Gaffbear said:

Here's how it all went. Just watched it back. Taylor fouls Raskin even before he grabs him.