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HE’S been accused of asset stripping, of leading Rangers down the rocky road to ruin.

But Sir David Murray isn’t about to apologise for his actions — even if that makes him more of a hate figure amongst furious fans who have called for his head.

With Gers out of Europe and five points adrift of bitter rivals Celtic, the final straw for many fans came last week when Murray admitted Rangers will be forced to sell at least one star player this month in a bid to balance the books.

Disgruntled supporters yesterday launched a stinging attack on Murray and the board — calling for an urgent change of direction at the crisis-torn club.

The ‘We Deserve Better’ campaign cranked up the pressure on Murray just 24 hours after fans had unfurled a ‘David Murray Must Go’ banner before the Scottish Cup clash at St Johnstone.

But after one of the most difficult days in his 20 years in office, Rangers chairman Murray is more determined and focused than ever.

And he maintains the measures he has taken are essential to safeguard the future of the club.

He told SunSport: “This is about the longevity of this football club. not the short-term. I’ll take the flak for it, I refuse to apologise for this course of action.

“It is business reality and people need to recognise that. I would take the arguments on board were this a normal climate but it is not.

“I am running this club differently now. I was criticised for spending to chase success in Europe now I am criticised for attempting to be prudent.

“Right now this is the way it has to be and I think the reasonable supporters out there realise that.”

Yet clearly there are some who don’t. The launch of the Rangers Supporters’ Trust-backed ‘We Deserve Better Campaign’ yesterday comes in the wake of a month of chaos and financial uncertainty at Ibrox.

And just 24 hours after Murray was taunted with a medley of cash-related hits including Money For Nothing and Money’s Too Tight To Mention at McDiarmid Park on Tuesday night.

Yesterday’s attack focused on the club’s relative lack of success on and off the field in the past decade.

And it called for a change of leadership at the top.

The statement read: “We deserve better.

“We have always been the club who set the standards for others to follow.

“It was Rangers who led the way in stadium redevelopment, it was Rangers who dragged Scottish football forward by signing big name English and European players. Other teams trailed in our wake.

“There is so much to be grateful for that we are Rangers fans.

“Right now, however, our current regime is not even ASPIRING to the standards set by their predecessors.

“We now issue a public challenge to the board of the club to take steps which will improve our situation immediately, to state what they plan to do and to work with the support.

“Rangers fans understand that the current situation will take time and a workable strategy to escape from.

“But the club must make the major changes necessary, rather than conduct transfer window fire-sales and lurch from crisis to crisis with no discernible game plan.

“While we will continue to back the team 100 per cent, as is the way of Rangers fans, the people at the top of the club must realise that we will no longer accept the avoidable situation we currently find ourselves in.

“It’s time for the club board to recognise this and strive to achieve it.”

Livid Murray hit back: “The Supporters’ Trust have to be very careful here.

“They feel they have a better handle on how to run Rangers as a business than I have, they obviously believe they know their tactics better than Walter Smith.

“All they are doing with moves like this is undermining this football club as we face up to a hugely testing economic climate.

“The Trust is a very small band of people, but they are now specialising in mischief-making at a time when this club needs it least.”

Meanwhile, The Rangers Supporters’ Assembly have distanced themselves from the statement. Ross Blyth, vice-president of the Assembly, said: “Rangers supporters around the world are concerned when they read that star players could be sold.

“No one wants to see that happen but real fans know that no club is immune from the harsh economic climate we are now in.

“But this is not a time for division between fans and the club or between fans groups.

SIR DAVID MURRAY insisted last night he’s the ONLY man to take Rangers forward as furious fans called for his immediate resignation.

In a day of yet more Ibrox drama, disgruntled Gers fans launched a stinging attack on Murray and his board — demanding an urgent change of direction at the crisis-torn club.

Backed by the board of the Rangers Supporters Trust, the ‘We Deserve Better’ campaign comes in the wake of a month of turmoil at Ibrox. Murray has admitted Gers will be forced to sell at least one star player this month in a bid to balance the books.

And at Tuesday night’s Scottish Cup clash against St Johnstone in Perth, fans unfurled a banner reading ‘David Murray Must Go’.

But last night the embattled chairman blasted back — insisting he’s the club’s best bet.

Murray, seeking a buyer for the club, said: “At the moment I’m BY FAR the best bet for Rangers.

“I am not going to sit here and apologise for running Rangers as a tight ship in a climate like this, it HAS to be done. People say I am trying to keep the debt down to get a good selling price — that is NOT the case.

“I’m totally committed to this club and whilst this is a difficult period we CAN get through it.

“I wouldn’t be difficult to deal with if I felt the offer was right for Rangers but what would any prospective buyer think looking at the situation right now.

“It is hardly going to entice anyone in is it?”

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He is completely dodging the issue.

He was not prudent when he let Walter spend millions on players like Lafferty, Velicka, Edu, McCulloch, Webster, Whittaker, who cannot command a first team place and seldom play. Hemdani is also never used. Others like Novo, Beasley and Adam who have been told they can leave, but Adam has a 5 year contract.

Is that being prudent? Letting JCD and Burke leave for nothing when we need money?

Walter spent money on three strikers when we already had five on our books. Played Kaunas with no midfield but we had 8 strikers.

All this make sense?

Youths getting a chance? Not under Walter.

Yes SDM you dodge the issue.

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Livid Murray hit back: “The Supporters’ Trust have to be very careful here.

“They feel they have a better handle on how to run Rangers as a business than I have, they obviously believe they know their tactics better than Walter Smith.

Obviously, Sir David did not make his money in public relations.

He has forgotten the first rule: don't p**s off the people who pay the bills. You think Rangers have trouble now, Mr. Chairman? Try alienating the masses. There are enough Bears out there who are angry enough to believe exactly those things mentioned above -- and you're waving red flags in front of them.

You need a united fan base, Sir David. That is not the way to go about it.

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He is completely dodging the issue.

He was not prudent when he let Walter spend millions on players like Lafferty, Velicka, Edu, McCulloch, Webster, Whittaker, who cannot command a first team place and seldom play. Hemdani is also never used. Others like Novo, Beasley and Adam who have been told they can leave, but Adam has a 5 year contract.

Is that being prudent? Letting JCD and Burke leave for nothing when we need money?

Walter spent money on three strikers when we already had five on our books. Played Kaunas with no midfield but we had 8 strikers.

All this make sense?

Youths getting a chance? Not under Walter.

Yes SDM you dodge the issue.

Walter can't really lay it on the line with Murray because Murray is quite entitled to say what about your part in all this

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Livid Murray hit back: “The Supporters’ Trust have to be very careful here.

“They feel they have a better handle on how to run Rangers as a business than I have, they obviously believe they know their tactics better than Walter Smith.

Obviously, Sir David did not make his money in public relations.

He has forgotten the first rule: don't p**s off the people who pay the bills. You think Rangers have trouble now, Mr. Chairman? Try alienating the masses. There are enough Bears out there who are angry enough to believe exactly those things mentioned above -- and you're waving red flags in front of them.

You need a united fan base, Sir David. That is not the way to go about it.

Murray has never cared what we think ... I don't know if the guys standing trial just now have had their season tickets confiscated but if they have Murray assuming their guilt before the trial had even begun is just the sort of thing that has always driven a wedge between him and us

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I can understand him running a tight ship in the current financial climate,we all are,but can he explain why Smith was given millions to spend 6 months after le Guen was given nothing.

What is the point of a youth academy,which has young players being chased by the likes of Man utd,Liverpool and Chelsea, yet we play old men and cart horses out of position which leads to us losing out on Champions league football which leaves us having to sell our best players half way through the season which could ultimately lead to losing out on the league AGAIN.

£28m Walter has spent and the best signing had to be sold in August and our other,Bougherra ,could go this month.

He has spent £2.25m on McCulloch,£2m on Whittaker,£3.75m on Lafferty,£1m on velicka,£2m on Miller ......£11m i believe if le Guen had got it would have brought out some belters

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HE’S been accused of asset stripping, of leading Rangers down the rocky road to ruin.

But Sir David Murray isn’t about to apologise for his actions — even if that makes him more of a hate figure amongst furious fans who have called for his head.

With Gers out of Europe and five points adrift of bitter rivals Celtic, the final straw for many fans came last week when Murray admitted Rangers will be forced to sell at least one star player this month in a bid to balance the books.

Disgruntled supporters yesterday launched a stinging attack on Murray and the board — calling for an urgent change of direction at the crisis-torn club.

The ‘We Deserve Better’ campaign cranked up the pressure on Murray just 24 hours after fans had unfurled a ‘David Murray Must Go’ banner before the Scottish Cup clash at St Johnstone.

But after one of the most difficult days in his 20 years in office, Rangers chairman Murray is more determined and focused than ever.

And he maintains the measures he has taken are essential to safeguard the future of the club.

He told SunSport: “This is about the longevity of this football club. not the short-term. I’ll take the flak for it, I refuse to apologise for this course of action.

“It is business reality and people need to recognise that. I would take the arguments on board were this a normal climate but it is not.

“I am running this club differently now. I was criticised for spending to chase success in Europe now I am criticised for attempting to be prudent.

“Right now this is the way it has to be and I think the reasonable supporters out there realise that.”

Yet clearly there are some who don’t. The launch of the Rangers Supporters’ Trust-backed ‘We Deserve Better Campaign’ yesterday comes in the wake of a month of chaos and financial uncertainty at Ibrox.

And just 24 hours after Murray was taunted with a medley of cash-related hits including Money For Nothing and Money’s Too Tight To Mention at McDiarmid Park on Tuesday night.

Yesterday’s attack focused on the club’s relative lack of success on and off the field in the past decade.

And it called for a change of leadership at the top.

The statement read: “We deserve better.

“We have always been the club who set the standards for others to follow.

“It was Rangers who led the way in stadium redevelopment, it was Rangers who dragged Scottish football forward by signing big name English and European players. Other teams trailed in our wake.

“There is so much to be grateful for that we are Rangers fans.

“Right now, however, our current regime is not even ASPIRING to the standards set by their predecessors.

“We now issue a public challenge to the board of the club to take steps which will improve our situation immediately, to state what they plan to do and to work with the support.

“Rangers fans understand that the current situation will take time and a workable strategy to escape from.

“But the club must make the major changes necessary, rather than conduct transfer window fire-sales and lurch from crisis to crisis with no discernible game plan.

“While we will continue to back the team 100 per cent, as is the way of Rangers fans, the people at the top of the club must realise that we will no longer accept the avoidable situation we currently find ourselves in.

“It’s time for the club board to recognise this and strive to achieve it.”

Livid Murray hit back: “The Supporters’ Trust have to be very careful here.

“They feel they have a better handle on how to run Rangers as a business than I have, they obviously believe they know their tactics better than Walter Smith.

“All they are doing with moves like this is undermining this football club as we face up to a hugely testing economic climate.

“The Trust is a very small band of people, but they are now specialising in mischief-making at a time when this club needs it least.”

Meanwhile, The Rangers Supporters’ Assembly have distanced themselves from the statement. Ross Blyth, vice-president of the Assembly, said: “Rangers supporters around the world are concerned when they read that star players could be sold.

“No one wants to see that happen but real fans know that no club is immune from the harsh economic climate we are now in.

“But this is not a time for division between fans and the club or between fans groups.

SIR DAVID MURRAY insisted last night he’s the ONLY man to take Rangers forward as furious fans called for his immediate resignation.

In a day of yet more Ibrox drama, disgruntled Gers fans launched a stinging attack on Murray and his board — demanding an urgent change of direction at the crisis-torn club.

Backed by the board of the Rangers Supporters Trust, the ‘We Deserve Better’ campaign comes in the wake of a month of turmoil at Ibrox. Murray has admitted Gers will be forced to sell at least one star player this month in a bid to balance the books.

And at Tuesday night’s Scottish Cup clash against St Johnstone in Perth, fans unfurled a banner reading ‘David Murray Must Go’.

But last night the embattled chairman blasted back — insisting he’s the club’s best bet.

Murray, seeking a buyer for the club, said: “At the moment I’m BY FAR the best bet for Rangers.

“I am not going to sit here and apologise for running Rangers as a tight ship in a climate like this, it HAS to be done. People say I am trying to keep the debt down to get a good selling price — that is NOT the case.

“I’m totally committed to this club and whilst this is a difficult period we CAN get through it.

“I wouldn’t be difficult to deal with if I felt the offer was right for Rangers but what would any prospective buyer think looking at the situation right now.

“It is hardly going to entice anyone in is it?”

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/ho...icle2132903.ece

So Mr Murray seen as you are such a good business man and we are all so poor, can you answer these questions;

- Why spend 6m on strikers when we needed a midfielder

- Why spend 3m+ on edu for the future which has put us in a place where we need to sell first team players now

- why spend 7m+ on edu and lafferty for the future when we needed players for the now and present

- Why is it near on impossible to buy Rangers merchandise outside of Scotland, never mind outside the UK

- Why do you not defend our proud name

- Why are many good and decent Rangers fans victimised due to the actions of a small minority

- Why do u hold the Rangers fans in such contempt, finiancially we have put more into the club that you ever have.

- Why do u pay Bain circa 1m a year for sheer incompetence.

My Murray i can go on but you will always shirk the questions and put blame on the support. Fewer and fewer people are supporting you now Murray, your time is up.

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Unfortunately for Murray the facts speak for itself when it comes to his alleged prudency - past and present.

Now one can agree or disagree with the method of protest but in a general sense it's difficult to argue with the sentiments of the campaign.

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Looking at the quotes on here from the papers, why is anyone surprised? Not that I am pleased about it, but, I did say last night it was a poor statement, and would be dismissed easily, and, it seems it was. Also not helped by the dis-jointed support, with as it would seem the RSA distancingthemselves from it. This instantly makes it look like its a minority, as he has come out and said here.

This quote, from another thread, for me, sums it up

""My own message to our supporters is that we need to pull together instead of undermining this great club we have. I genuinely think we can win the SPL title this season. The race is not over and it can change from week to week.""

I will maintain that the statement should have been along the lines of "we are not performing as we feel we should be, how can we improve this, together?"

In this situation, you issue a statement saying things arent as good as they can be, then, caveat into making it better, in a united front, as a family. Regardless of how we may feel about Murray, that way, when their is a response, ANYTHING other than plans to improve things will look bad. Any other suporter group will also look bad going against it.

Its politics 101 guys

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Unfortunately for Murray the facts speak for itself when it comes to his alleged prudency - past and present.

Now one can agree or disagree with the method of protest but in a general sense it's difficult to argue with the sentiments of the campaign.

the sentiments are fine, although I think it could have been handled better, as I said above Frankie

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Looking at the quotes on here from the papers, why is anyone surprised? Not that I am pleased about it, but, I did say last night it was a poor statement, and would be dismissed easily, and, it seems it was. Also not helped by the dis-jointed support, with as it would seem the RSA distancingthemselves from it. This instantly makes it look like its a minority, as he has come out and said here.

This quote, from another thread, for me, sums it up

""My own message to our supporters is that we need to pull together instead of undermining this great club we have. I genuinely think we can win the SPL title this season. The race is not over and it can change from week to week.""

I will maintain that the statement should have been along the lines of "we are not performing as we feel we should be, how can we improve this, together?"

In this situation, you issue a statement saying things arent as good as they can be, then, caveat into making it better, in a united front, as a family. Regardless of how we may feel about Murray, that way, when their is a response, ANYTHING other than plans to improve things will look bad. Any other suporter group will also look bad going against it.

Its politics 101 guys

Thats what I disliked most about the statement issues by the RST - not one constructive idea in it - just moans and immediately createsd division amongst the support, which is NOT good for anyone - how can ALL supporters get behind the RST when there is nothing to get behind - saying its not good enough without offering answers is no help to anyone.

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Looking at the quotes on here from the papers, why is anyone surprised? Not that I am pleased about it, but, I did say last night it was a poor statement, and would be dismissed easily, and, it seems it was. Also not helped by the dis-jointed support, with as it would seem the RSA distancingthemselves from it. This instantly makes it look like its a minority, as he has come out and said here.

This quote, from another thread, for me, sums it up

""My own message to our supporters is that we need to pull together instead of undermining this great club we have. I genuinely think we can win the SPL title this season. The race is not over and it can change from week to week.""

I will maintain that the statement should have been along the lines of "we are not performing as we feel we should be, how can we improve this, together?"

In this situation, you issue a statement saying things arent as good as they can be, then, caveat into making it better, in a united front, as a family. Regardless of how we may feel about Murray, that way, when their is a response, ANYTHING other than plans to improve things will look bad. Any other suporter group will also look bad going against it.

Its politics 101 guys

Thats what I disliked most about the statement issues by the RST - not one constructive idea in it - just moans and immediately createsd division amongst the support, which is NOT good for anyone - how can ALL supporters get behind the RST when there is nothing to get behind - saying its not good enough without offering answers is no help to anyone.

I really dislike us agreeing haha

But exactly!

Its not even answers as such, perhaps suggestions would be a better word there?

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I thought it was a good statement from the RST that articulated the valid concerns that many fans have.

Typically, Murray's reaction is almost contemptous: who are we to criticise his business skills and/or Walter's managerial skills? Yous are stupid - count for nothing - now just shut it. But keep handing yer money over plebes...

All this does is alienate the fans further - which is not so clever IMO - and more and more folk are seeing through the high handed lies and deceptions.

No, of course, don't say sorry Mr Murray - just keep driving a wedge between the club/fans - it is what you do.

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I thought it was a good statement from the RST that articulated the valid concerns that many fans have.

Typically, Murray's reaction is almost contemptous: who are we to criticise his business skills and/or Walter's managerial skills? Yous are stupid - count for nothing - now just shut it. But keep handing yer money over plebes...

All this does is alienate the fans further - which is not so clever IMO - and more and more folk are seeing through the high handed lies and deceptions.

No, of course, don't say sorry Mr Murray - just keep driving a wedge between the club/fans - it is what you do.

Works both ways. It doesnt say anything that anyone doesnt know. It doesnt offer suggestions to improve things. Thats the problem. Of course Murray will say we dont know what we are talking about, there is nothing in the statement that shows we do.

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the sentiments are fine, although I think it could have been handled better, as I said above Frankie

I doubt many fans would disagree with the sentiments in the statement but it certainly seems only to highlight the problems we're all aware of as opposed to offering workable solutions.

Certainly it's better than a generic banner in showing the problems to the non-online fan but the Trust may have been better advised to find high net worth (or high profile ex-players for example) supporters of the campaign (which they may have to be fair) before publicly commenting.

The campaign seems somewhat rushed and without offered solutions for the problems they talk about then it's credibility can be questioned all too easily. As such it won't be easy to get the wider support on board without a focal point to rally behind.

Only the next few months will see if it is successful.

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I thought it was a good statement from the RST that articulated the valid concerns that many fans have.

Typically, Murray's reaction is almost contemptous: who are we to criticise his business skills and/or Walter's managerial skills? Yous are stupid - count for nothing - now just shut it. But keep handing yer money over plebes...

All this does is alienate the fans further - which is not so clever IMO - and more and more folk are seeing through the high handed lies and deceptions.

No, of course, don't say sorry Mr Murray - just keep driving a wedge between the club/fans - it is what you do.

Works both ways. It doesnt say anything that anyone doesnt know. It doesnt offer suggestions to improve things. Thats the problem. Of course Murray will say we dont know what we are talking about, there is nothing in the statement that shows we do.

I disagree. The statement shows the RST understand the concerns that many fans have about the way the club has gone over the past decade (not just past few "credit crunch" months). They are valid concerns and as usual they aren't addressed. Instead DM takes his usual pop at the fans....

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I thought it was a good statement from the RST that articulated the valid concerns that many fans have.

Typically, Murray's reaction is almost contemptous: who are we to criticise his business skills and/or Walter's managerial skills? Yous are stupid - count for nothing - now just shut it. But keep handing yer money over plebes...

All this does is alienate the fans further - which is not so clever IMO - and more and more folk are seeing through the high handed lies and deceptions.

No, of course, don't say sorry Mr Murray - just keep driving a wedge between the club/fans - it is what you do.

Works both ways. It doesnt say anything that anyone doesnt know. It doesnt offer suggestions to improve things. Thats the problem. Of course Murray will say we dont know what we are talking about, there is nothing in the statement that shows we do.

I disagree. The statement shows the RST understand the concerns that many fans have about the way the club has gone over the past decade (not just past few "credit crunch" months). They are valid concerns and as usual they aren't addressed. Instead DM takes his usual pop at the fans....

The concerns will have been lifted form Follow follow, not that there is anything wrong with that.

He is taking a pop at a group of fans , not all fans, who went on national TV and radio calling him an asset stripper and making childish comments about him, is he not allowed to answer back ?

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The concerns will have been lifted form Follow follow, not that there is anything wrong with that.

He is taking a pop at a group of fans , not all fans, who went on national TV and radio calling him an asset stripper and making childish comments about him, is he not allowed to answer back ?

Of course he is allowed to answer back.

I just find what he says less and less trust-worthy.

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Although there's no getting away from blaming Murray for the overall state of the club, he's in a 'damned if he does, damned if he doesn't' scenario with Smith and transfer money.

If he doesn't give Smith money to burn - he'll get slaughtered.

If he does give Smith money which is subsequently wasted on pish - he'll get slaughtered.

One of Murray's biggest mistakes over the last 5 years was bowing to Barry Ferguson in the PLG debacle. I've got absolutely no doubt the Frenchman could have used the money better.

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Looking at the quotes on here from the papers, why is anyone surprised? Not that I am pleased about it, but, I did say last night it was a poor statement, and would be dismissed easily, and, it seems it was. Also not helped by the dis-jointed support, with as it would seem the RSA distancingthemselves from it. This instantly makes it look like its a minority, as he has come out and said here.

This quote, from another thread, for me, sums it up

""My own message to our supporters is that we need to pull together instead of undermining this great club we have. I genuinely think we can win the SPL title this season. The race is not over and it can change from week to week.""

I will maintain that the statement should have been along the lines of "we are not performing as we feel we should be, how can we improve this, together?"

In this situation, you issue a statement saying things arent as good as they can be, then, caveat into making it better, in a united front, as a family. Regardless of how we may feel about Murray, that way, when their is a response, ANYTHING other than plans to improve things will look bad. Any other suporter group will also look bad going against it.

Its politics 101 guys

Thats what I disliked most about the statement issues by the RST - not one constructive idea in it - just moans and immediately createsd division amongst the support, which is NOT good for anyone - how can ALL supporters get behind the RST when there is nothing to get behind - saying its not good enough without offering answers is no help to anyone.

I really dislike us agreeing haha

But exactly!

Its not even answers as such, perhaps suggestions would be a better word there?

no just we should be doing better get out murray!!!!!

as if thats going to help the team or our finances for that matter. :ph34r:

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Although there's no getting away from blaming Murray for the overall state of the club, he's in a 'damned if he does, damned if he doesn't' scenario with Smith and transfer money.

If he doesn't give Smith money to burn - he'll get slaughtered.

If he does give Smith money which is subsequently wasted on pish - he'll get slaughtered.

One of Murray's biggest mistakes over the last 5 years was bowing to Barry Ferguson in the PLG debacle. I've got absolutely no doubt the Frenchman could have used the money better.

the same frenchman who asked to leave twice before his resignation was accepted and signed some of the worst players i have seen in a Rangers jersey...no thanks.....

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Murray is an arrogant b*stard who has made a total mess of running Rangers on and off the park.

I only hope that the majority of fans now realise that the club is just a plaything to him and he is simply taking them for a ride.

so he has made a mess of the club!!! how many in a row would celtic have if Murray never took over?

what is your suggestion for taking the club forward then?

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Although there's no getting away from blaming Murray for the overall state of the club, he's in a 'damned if he does, damned if he doesn't' scenario with Smith and transfer money.

If he doesn't give Smith money to burn - he'll get slaughtered.

If he does give Smith money which is subsequently wasted on pish - he'll get slaughtered.

One of Murray's biggest mistakes over the last 5 years was bowing to Barry Ferguson in the PLG debacle. I've got absolutely no doubt the Frenchman could have used the money better.

the same frenchman who asked to leave twice before his resignation was accepted and signed some of the worst players i have seen in a Rangers jersey...no thanks.....

If we'd given him £15m instead of £3m then who knows.

And it's no wonder he wanted to leave. The whole Scots Clique at the club had decided they didn't like his training methods and threw their toys out the pram, no-one backed him and his position was untenable.

Would you have stayed?

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