Ukrainian Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 SPORT+MARKT surveyed around 9,600 football fans in 16 European markets with an average of 600 respondents per country, and found that Barcelona had the most fans with 50.3 million, followed by Real Madrid with 45.9 million. Manchester United (32.8 million) and Arsenal (22.9 million) make up third and fourth places. Spanish clubs are supported by an estimated 103.5 million while an estimated 99.2 million people across Europe follow English clubs. English clubs have a larger domestic fan base, but Spanish clubs pull in far more supporters from outside the country Hartmut Zastrow, Executive Director, SPORT+MARKT said the survey results showed the following: “Along with Chelsea FC, FC Barcelona is the big winner amongst the top European clubs. Despite still having an unusually high fan potential, the main loser over the past five seasons, with 11 per cent less supporters, is Real Madrid.” “The fact that Chelsea FC has increased its fan base by over five times, clearly shows what a fast-moving market football is. One can achieve a lot in a short amount of time.” “Europe still offers massive potential for clubs. In Europe alone, clubs could increase their total revenue by four or five times in the next twenty years. In particular, this allows for new media framework to be created. The teams are no longer restricted to national television. Furthermore, in the big leagues, TV money has been all but exhausted. With new media, the clubs can, however, uncover new target groups.” “There is a booming market of over 225 million football fans right on clubs’ doorsteps. It seems more promising to concentrate business here than in East Asia, where English, Spanish and Italian leagues and top clubs already have prominence.” The Top 20 Most Popular European Clubs 1. Barcelona CF 2. Real Madrid 3. Manchester United 4. Arsenal London 5. AC Milan 6. FC Bayern Munich 7. Chelsea FC 8. Liverpool FC 9. Juventus Turin 10. Zenit St. Petersburg 11. FC Spartak Moscow 12. Inter Milan 13. Olympique Lyonnais 14. Olympique Marseille 15. ZSKA Moscow 16. Wisla Kraków 17. Ajax Amsterdam 18. Galatasaray Istanbul 19. AS Roma 20. Werder Bremen He-he... WTF! Where is Rangers?
Scott-RFC Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 A poll of glory hunting cunts Chelsea increased its fan base 5 times over, pah!
Ted E Bayer Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 I'd love to see how real fans (not just domestic) of the teams above take support to matches. I'd like to see any of them for example come close to matches the support of Rangers fans at the Uefa cup final in Mank.
Ukrainian Posted February 12, 2009 Author Posted February 12, 2009 ZSKA Moscow has a attendance 10-15 thousands. It's all ZSKA fans and their relatives. Truly popular club!
Ukrainian Posted February 12, 2009 Author Posted February 12, 2009 I'd love to see how real fans (not just domestic) of the teams above take support to matches. I'd like to see any of them for example come close to matches the support of Rangers fans at the Uefa cup final in Mank. But you must also take into account financial possibility of fans.
martin93 Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 load of shite, like RFC2007 said glory hunting bastards
ClintonGrey Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 A quarter of a million away fans disproves this entirely.
Guest Andypendek Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 But how long can we hang on, as we in Scotland disappear 'off the radar' more and more? How long will having a strong, local fanbase be enough? We do have the worldwide fans, but unfortunately they are not in (a) the right time zones for TV or (b) part of the heavily populated, Western European advertising target-group. It's all a bit depressing.
andy500 Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 Ukranian, do you even like Rangers? You seem to only ever come on when the time is right to mock or belittle us. I may be able to use the ignore function for the first time.
Ukrainian Posted February 13, 2009 Author Posted February 13, 2009 Ukranian, do you even like Rangers? You seem to only ever come on when the time is right to mock or belittle us. I may be able to use the ignore function for the first time. You will forgive, but I didn't understand a question.
FlippinEck Posted February 13, 2009 Posted February 13, 2009 I love how they turn 9600 into millions of fans
WVB Posted February 13, 2009 Posted February 13, 2009 But how long can we hang on, as we in Scotland disappear 'off the radar' more and more? How long will having a strong, local fanbase be enough? We do have the worldwide fans, but unfortunately they are not in (a) the right time zones for TV or (b) part of the heavily populated, Western European advertising target-group. It's all a bit depressing. *slaps Andy across face* Pull yourself together.
andy500 Posted February 13, 2009 Posted February 13, 2009 We surveyed 9,600 fans and found out that 50,600,000 folk support Barca. That sounds like the worst survey ever
*Manticore* Posted February 13, 2009 Posted February 13, 2009 What's the point of this thread? Apart from Ukranian trying to get banned....
BLUEDIGNITY Posted February 13, 2009 Posted February 13, 2009 What's the point of this thread? Apart from Ukranian trying to get banned.... You've never thought he was Bluenose for fcuks sake ?
JimmyCR1 Posted February 13, 2009 Posted February 13, 2009 Most of them dont support these teams, thaey are just fans. A supporter goes to the games and buys merchandise, feels emotion when winning and loosing. This poll is a load of gash why even post it ???
*Manticore* Posted February 13, 2009 Posted February 13, 2009 What's the point of this thread? Apart from Ukranian trying to get banned.... You've never thought he was Bluenose for fcuks sake ? I've never formed a view on the matter
Chookes Posted February 13, 2009 Posted February 13, 2009 Alex Byars, a senior consultant at Deloitte, told The Scotsman: "To be honest, it's quite amazing that one or both of Celtic and Rangers have always featured in the top 20 in the past. "The reality is that for any club outside the big five European leagues of England, Spain, Italy, France and Germany it is incredibly difficult to achieve the level of revenue required to make it on to the list. "Fenerbahce have managed it this year, making it in 19th place, and that is largely on the back of reaching the quarter-finals of the Champions League. They are also operating in a larger domestic market than Celtic or Rangers and are doing well commercially. "Celtic and Rangers both had good years on the pitch last season. Celtic made it to the last 16 of the Champions League for the second year running, while Rangers got to the final of the Uefa Cup, but it is the relatively small broadcasting market they are in which is really holding them back. "They are also not helped by the depreciation of the Pound against the Euro. We compile the Money League in Euros and the exchange rate for the pound for this year's list was 1.26, while last year it was closer to 1.5. That obviously made a significant difference for all of the British clubs. I think the only way we will see either Celtic or Rangers back in the top 20 any time soon is if they can make major progress in the Champions League. From their point of view, hopefully their performances in Europe this season are just a blip and not a sign of a downward trend." "In terms of matchday revenue, Celtic and Rangers are still very strong," added Byars. "And while their domestic commercial revenue is some way short of the big five leagues in Europe, it is still fairly healthy compared to others like the Dutch and Portuguese Leagues."
Ukrainian Posted February 13, 2009 Author Posted February 13, 2009 What's the point of this thread? Apart from Ukranian trying to get banned.... Hm... Is it claim against me?
mrmytto Posted February 13, 2009 Posted February 13, 2009 He-he... WTF! Where is Rangers? rolleyes.gif Is it just me, or does anyone see this as a dig towards Rangers. And somehow I think that we will have more real FANS than those clubs. WATP!
Leiper Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 I don't understand the survey. 600 respondents in the countries turns into millions of supporters? If this is a dig at us from Ukrainian, then it really is a poor attempt.
Liam_RFC Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 SPORT+MARKT surveyed around 9,600 football fans in 16 European markets with an average of 600 respondents per country, and found that Barcelona had the most fans with 50.3 million, followed by Real Madrid with 45.9 million. Manchester United (32.8 million) and Arsenal (22.9 million) make up third and fourth places. Spanish clubs are supported by an estimated 103.5 million while an estimated 99.2 million people across Europe follow English clubs. English clubs have a larger domestic fan base, but Spanish clubs pull in far more supporters from outside the country Hartmut Zastrow, Executive Director, SPORT+MARKT said the survey results showed the following: “Along with Chelsea FC, FC Barcelona is the big winner amongst the top European clubs. Despite still having an unusually high fan potential, the main loser over the past five seasons, with 11 per cent less supporters, is Real Madrid.” “The fact that Chelsea FC has increased its fan base by over five times, clearly shows what a fast-moving market football is. One can achieve a lot in a short amount of time.” “Europe still offers massive potential for clubs. In Europe alone, clubs could increase their total revenue by four or five times in the next twenty years. In particular, this allows for new media framework to be created. The teams are no longer restricted to national television. Furthermore, in the big leagues, TV money has been all but exhausted. With new media, the clubs can, however, uncover new target groups.” “There is a booming market of over 225 million football fans right on clubs’ doorsteps. It seems more promising to concentrate business here than in East Asia, where English, Spanish and Italian leagues and top clubs already have prominence.” The Top 20 Most Popular European Clubs 1. Barcelona CF 2. Real Madrid 3. Manchester United 4. Arsenal London 5. AC Milan 6. FC Bayern Munich 7. Chelsea FC 8. Liverpool FC 9. Juventus Turin 10. Zenit St. Petersburg 11. FC Spartak Moscow 12. Inter Milan 13. Olympique Lyonnais 14. Olympique Marseille 15. ZSKA Moscow 16. Wisla Kraków 17. Ajax Amsterdam 18. Galatasaray Istanbul 19. AS Roma 20. Werder Bremen He-he... WTF! Where is Rangers? its amazin how chelsea all of a sudden are a massive team and popular glory huntin at its best
Tumshie Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 You can still have success without being in the top 20. However without a decent european scouting structure and the development of youth players we have no chance of making a considerable impact in the champions league. UEFA Cup is always a possibility though
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