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I'm a little confused by this.
Withholding a civilians property that would make that civilian unable to retrieve it is classed as theft in Scotland is it not?...
Wouldn't that mean you could press charges and that knob would end up wwith a criminal conviction...
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Never been comfortable with the media news about our board, and I doubt very much indeed that Brian caused our troubles. I just Snell a scapegoat.
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That game against Parma, away. Second leg. They were no soft touch, we were winning on aggregate. It was during work hours, i was climbing the walls.
Porrini got sent off for fuck all. When I got home and seen the video I was raging as there was a clear foot of air between him and the other diving rhunt. Parma went on to score a few.
Gutted...
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I'm thinking this line is only slightly less pathetic than the bbcs own contact details...
Why on earth put out a line for whistle blowing when the worst offenders are the actual enterprise who creat the whistle blowing line..
Fuck, sorry. Keep forgetting that those allegedly corrupt cunts just do things for show.
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Was it Broadfoot? My memory sucks.
I ended up in one of the directors/whatever you call it box. Proud as anything with our fans that night. It was awesome. Even with the Shite from the stretford. I was in the middle, so could gauge the fans quite well. Still have pics from before kickoff, then the blue corner 1 floor up. I do remember being right pissed of heading back to the car after though. Even with the stats, I thought we coulda nicked it too (for most of the game anyway)....
What was the song we sang about shriek again? Something about scoring in strange places lol.
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So in other words.
"Im a shitebag, amongst a big bad world of shitebags on the internet hiding behind a username"
Well if you ever do decide to locate your baws PM me.
What, you mean you weren't talking about a nice chat over a cuppa. I had fears of someone I knew seeing me talking to you and me getting called "that scabs pal" forevermore...Internet hardman, hiding in a huge crowd hurling insults and abuse at a guy who's done more for Rangers than you ever will. Calling anyone who fits names regularly - all while being a username on a forum or a spectator in a crowd... Aye, your an awesome upstanding big man eh!Live with your decisions you big hard man you. Live with them and accept your decisions and be at ease with yourself.Il not reply again, as too many threads get derailed already. And you're just background noise...
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Thats a bit vague,Pollok somewhere,late some time lol
Yep lolIf I can't respect the individual, why respect their faux offendedness at something they done happily by replying to idiocy...
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Oh look, another keyboard gangster. PM me well arrange for you to call me a scab face to face.
Pollok late to day scab boy
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Not Goat, he is an Armchair fan... sorry Fanny
You might have missed the word scab out of the mix somewhere mate.
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On that point Willhelm - perhaps it would be useful for VB to prepare a pro forma letter to the club outlining his worst excesses
This could then be utilised by shareholders and ST holders only to bombard the club with complaints.
It would need to be bona fide in as much that everyone would need to put their Rangers number and/or shareholder number on it so the complainants could be verified
There's no danger of making him a martyr as the Bheasts banned Keevins and he didn't become a martyr.
Over to you.....
This 100 times this
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Getting sick of our clubs attitude tbh.
If I said, and I'm not, that BA, Virgin, Sainsburies etc etc, were corrupt, not who they said they were, taxcheats when there were not, lying to the public - how long exactly do you think that would float before a complete retraction, a slander case, etc etc were all brought to my door?
Our club, for some completely unfathomable reason won't lift a Fucking finger... Sick if all the "we're watching", " we will be acting", "they won't get away with this" shite. What have they done Fuck all...
P.s. completely agree that the turn the other cheek spineless hand wringers must be in their element these days. But it merely makes the majority, from what I know, far more likely to take issue with scum given the chance arising at some point. People have long memories, handwringers aside, and retribution will be had....
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This post was written in 2009 and parts of it need updating but you'll get the gist of it when you read it.
Vanguard Bears have bee writing about this corruption and nepotism long before 2009 but nobody wanted to know. The usual suspects accused us of being paranoid.....so who was right and who was paranoid?
This First Quote was written by Graham Spiers.
"Celtic, though, as a football institution, quite rightly remains a symbol of Catholicism. The Celtic strip, as famed and proudly known around the world as it is, still cannot be divorced from one of its cultural parents, which is the Catholic faith."
In part one of this article I questioned the impartiality of those politicians at Glasgow City Council pushing an aggressive initiative aimed at reducing the annual number of Loyal Order parades.
Of course accusations of paranoia on our part would be the first line of defence for Councillors Jim Coleman and Paul Rooney as well as their sympathetic journalist Gerry Braiden. With that in mind, I'd like to take a look at who has been running the council, past and present and see if I can establish a pattern.
Between 1975 and 2003, ten Lord and Lady Provosts were appointed. All of them were of the Roman Catholic faith. This in a city the last census tells us comprises 31% Roman Catholics. Let's take a look at what mathematicians call "probability". The probability of consecutive events (RC Provosts in this case) is the probability of one event happening (0.31) to the power of the number of consecutive events (10). The answer is 0.0000025 or 1 in 400,000, showing a statistical bias to put it mildly. Four hundred thousand to one. Try getting odds like that at your local Ladbrokes next time you pop in.
That the Scottish media never saw fit to question this strange phenomenon is a mystery in itself. Indeed it took jokes regards the situation from satirical newspaper columnists like Rikki Brown and Tam Cowan (presumably they find GCC's bigotry funny) to see change. Those in control at City Chambers were in a dilemma. They had been found out. The statistics were an embarrassment. Former Provost Dr. Michael Kelly, himself a Roman Catholic, stated so on national radio.
So what did they do? They appointed as Provost a female of the Jewish faith, Liz Cameron. Why Mrs. Cameron? As a product of the fee-paying Roman Catholic school Notre Dame she was seen as a safe bet who could break the cycle without upsetting the apple cart. Mrs. Cameron's first action was to sign off a cheque for £600,000 - the Council choosing to use public funds to purchase stained glass windows for the Museum of Religious Life and Art - from her old school, Notre Dame.
Councillor Bob Winter, took over from Mrs. Cameron in 2007. A Protestant, The Evening Times once described how Mr. Winter and his four sons "made a pilgrimage (to Seville) to see the team they love go down 3-2 to Porto in a thrilling (UEFA Cup) final". It could be contended that Mr. Winter is yet another safe bet.
It was the appointment in 1999 of Councillor Alex Mosson, who held the position of Lord Provost between until 2003 that caused the biggest stir. A lifelong Celtic supporter, Mr. Mosson became the inaugural Chairman of The Celtic Trust. http://www.celtictru...et/Trustees.htm
He remains on the board to this day. He has four criminal convictions that led to custodial sentences. Two for housebreaking, one for assault and one for housebreaking with menaces (he tied up and beat up an elderly lady whose house he was robbing). In essence, he used to beat up and rob pensioners he later purported to represent as Lord Provost of Glasgow.
Mr. Mosson once worked in Aberdeen as an insulators labourer when an RNLA charity bottle went missing from a local pub. After the theft, he was promptly barred for life. At the time of his appointment as Lord Provost, otherwise unemployed Mosson lived in a plush Victorian home in Glasgow's west end. It was said that his trade union involvement was farcical; he hadn't worked for twenty-odd years - a full time councillor on the make.
Mossons wife (the then Lady Provost) caused uproar when she made an application and received an increase in her dress allowance from £8,000 to £14,000 per annum. She justified it by stating that the people of Glasgow wouldn't want to be embarrassed by their Lady Provost appearing twice in the same outfit, in public on their behalf.
The Mosson's could be spotted as "guests of honour" at the Celtic Rally and their photographs were often to be found in The Celtic View, the peroxide Mrs. Mosson accompanying her husband whilst he received or presented awards. The four years of his tenure as Lord Provost cost the people of Glasgow a minimum of £250,000. In his case, crime would appear to pay.
He caused further outrage when in 2005 after it was revealed that he used his taxpayer-funded chauffeur-driven car to attend Celtic Football Club matches, functions and supporters' rallies during his time as Lord Provost. During that period, he attended no Rangers fixtures despite having an open invitation to visit Ibrox. His public engagements, revealed under Freedom Of Information legislation, included the following:
"36 Celtic home matches as Lord Provost; away (Celtic) matches at Paisley, Livingston and Liverpool; the testimonial ball, dinner and match held to mark the career of former Celtic player Tom Boyd; supporters' rallies honouring Celtic captain Paul Lambert and former club physio Brian Scott; a Celtic charity event; a Celtic hall of fame dinner; a Celtic board meeting; an event in Ireland dedicated to ex-Celtic player Sean Fallon; a "civic lunch" in 1999 with the chief executive of Celtic; the funeral of former Celtic player Bobby Murdoch; an official council reception and lunch at the Corinthian in Glasgow, prior to the Republic of Ireland's world cup match against Saudi Arabia."
Of course the Lord Provost is supposed to be an impartial public servant who is sensitive to the views of all the city's residents. Mosson had an open invitation to attend football matches at both Parkhead and Ibrox, but chose only the former. Freedom of Information documents show that he attended no matches at Ibrox, while the small number of Rangers games he did attend involved Celtic as opponents. Of the six Ibrox functions identified from his list of engagements, Mosson failed to attend three of them. For all his Parkhead engagements, the City Daimler was put at Mossons disposal. The taxpayer funded his jaunts.
After leaving office in 2003, he was appointed chair of the Glasgow Marketing Bureau, and promptly awarded a £200,000 contract to an established Glasgow business - The Trophy Centre. which was at the time owned by a former Celtic Director. Mosson was the major dissenting voice behind the council's decision to include the flag of the British Isles at citizenship ceremonies, stating "I know many pubs in the east end where you would be killed for flying a Union Jack". He was subsequently laughed out of the building after a legal eagle tore strips off him.
Photograph: Councillor McKenzie at a recent Celtic Supporters Association presentation - impartial You decide!
Finally, you may care to note that Mr. Mosson was part of a group of people responsible for inviting IRA leader Gerry Adams to Glasgow in the 1980's. It would seem his love of Irish Republicanism runs in the family - his son once announced on his Friends Reunited profile he was "still a Provo".
Whilst the position of Lord Provost (civic head) could be considered little more than that of "figurehead", the financial muscle lies with the Leader of the Council. Current incumbent Stephen Purcell was elected in 2005 by members of the majority party (Labour) and presides over a £2.4 billion budget. Deputy Leader is the aforementioned Councillor James Coleman. Both are lifelong Celtic supporters and regulars at Celtic Park. In a fit of what can only be described as idiocy, Roman Catholic Mr. Purcell once recounted how his schooldays were spent "throwing stones at Protestants".
Prior to Mr. Purcell's appointment, Labour's Charles Gordon held the position of Leader. A Celtic Park regular, Mr. Gordon attended the same Roman Catholic secondary school (St. Thomas Aquinas) as Mr. Purcell and Alex Mosson. Mr. Gordon declared the following in his Declaration of Interests under "gifts and hospitality":
"Invitation from Celtic Football Club to represent the City and the Council as Leader of the Council"
"Attendance at the UEFA Cup Final in Seville, and associated events from the 20 to 22 May 2003"
"Hospitality at Celtic v Anderlecht Football Match".
Mr. Gordon had succeeded Pat "Lazarus" Lally. Mr. Lally gained his nickname due to his apparent ability to "keep bouncing back" as scandal after scandal littered his career. Among the more embarrassing episodes were suspension from the Labour Party amid Police investigation of his tenure as Chairman of the Council Housing Committee (a report was sent to the Procurator Fiscal attesting he had ensured all the good Council houses in Simshill went to his family and
friends) and similar suspension following the theft of a video recorder from Castlemilk Labour Club.
By now it may not surprise you to hear that Mr. Lally is a Roman Catholic and Celtic season-ticket holder who advocated a street party in Glasgow had Celtic won the UEFA Cup in 2003. Returning to times present, and looking again at the question of the impartiality of public servants in relation to Loyal Order parades, allow me to introduce you to members of the publicly-funded "Public Processions Committee" set up by Glasgow City Council.
Chaired by the aforementioned James Coleman, the committee comprises six further members (Note 3).
The other members of the committee:
Councillor James Scanlon (Labour, Ward 8, Southside Central) is a Roman Catholic and a regular at Celtic Park.
Councillor Tom McKeown (Labour, Ward 19, Shettleston) is a Roman Catholic and a Celtic supporter.
Councillor James Dornan (Scottish National Party, Ward 7, Langside) is a Roman Catholic and a Celtic supporter (Note 1). Would it be fair to state an SNP member may take a dim view of a Loyalist/Pro Union organisation?
Councillor John McKenzie (Labour, Ward 1, Linn) is Chairman of the Pat Anderson Glenacre Celtic Supporters Club.
Councillor Catherine McMaster (Labour, Ward 21, North East) is a Roman Catholic and member of the Scottish Catholic Historical Association.
Councillor James Todd (Labour, Ward 17, Springburn) is a Roman Catholic and a Celtic supporter (Note 2).
We established in part one that the leader of the worlds Roman Catholics is none too enamoured by Protestantism. The link between Roman Catholicism, Irish Republicanism and Celtic Football Club is inextricable. Glasgow City Council's Public Processions Committee comprises entirely Roman Catholics and/or Celtic supporters. It also includes a member whose Scottish Nationalist politics make it highly unlikely he'd look upon the pro-Union Loyal Orders favourably. Would it be fair to say their impartiality should be subject to scrutiny?
Was tweeted earlier tonight
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Let's not forget that this has been going on for 20-plus years now. During the Fergus McCann years, when they needed to build The PotatoDome, there was a huge problem; it just wasn’t possible due to lack of space. Glasgow City Council sprang into action to help their works team – they sold THREE WHOLE STREETS (Kinloch Street, Janefield Street, and Dalriada Street) to Yahoo FC for a penny. Yes, ONE PENCE. The houses that were preventing them from expanding Savile Row were duly demolished.
The vote to get the taxpayers to foot the bill rather than Nonce FC was passed by a majority consisting of Celtic season ticket owners and shareholders at Glasgow City Council. The Chairman of the committee asked if anyone would like to disqualify his or herself on the grounds of a conflict of interest. Unsurprisingly, none did, even though as I say the vast majority were Celtic season ticket and shareholders.
Only Private Eye and one SNP councillor questioned whether the Councillors should have declared their interests. Thirteen members on that Planning Committee , eleven Labour, one SNP, and one Tory. The SNP member was disgusted with the dealings of his own committee and he informed the Herald that ,"of the eleven Labour councillors on the committee , they are all either season ticket holders or shareholders at Celtic Park. Eight of them are both".
He further noted that ,"if these eleven councillors were shareholders in ICI and they voted for lax planning consent on a petro-chemical plant there would be a criminal investigation". The Scottish media have yet to even mention this.
I had no idea..... Well psosted sir
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I know that and thats what my point is, when posters for whatever reasons get huffy about a tri-colour gif all the lurking journos and bheasts on here probably get a stiffy as they can quite wrongly use it to label us all as Irish haters. Just laugh at the gifs or ignore them but when people start railing against it (quite often new posters with suspiciously low post counts as a page or so back in this thread) it just makes them and by association the rest of us look bad
I hear you mate, and to be honest pretty much agree. To a point.
Quite a while ago now I stopped paying much attention to what is/was said about us and the crap that comes with it - almost all unfounded and ridiculous basically.
Maybe that in itself ends a up with people not giving a thought about offending scum (not just me). I can source a hundred tweets, media statements, Facebook posts, forum posts where worse is thrown around by "victims" with no response from NBM and focus and all the other useless cunts that allow those happy craicsters to vent their bile.
Yet we should be careful. It's not in me to be civil when someone is pissing on my parade. If the authorities (lmfao) don't evenly apply it, I'm not interested in what they say. Sometimes I wish I got charged so I could take those selective cunts to task in court, but I'd not have a job within a week...
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If you read my posts you know i dont troll, the fact is Rangers have always been a club of the people, yes some people enjoy winding others up with the wee gifs but tbh if a gif pic winds you up so much then your fair game in my eyes. I know that Rangers is a club for all if some want to join the bheasts in labeling us anti Irish or anti catholic i find that sad. Nothing worse than bears doing bheasts work for them
But you're not new here mate and surely you must have seen the often posted list of things we have done which prove the crap and names the "cheats" call us is nothing more that bullshit?
We get called bigots - yet we have had a pretty large denomitaional variation in our players past. The founders, a RC captain from Italy, northern and southern Irish players. The "cheats" are recorded as being nowhere near our level of openness and inclusion to those other than our own (is that me being a bigot again Simone?)...
It's a big post, posted here several times. Well written and clearly gives the background that we are not bigots. However, I would say, it could be that by highlighting big JDs origins and bugging them up at every opportunity is more bigoted than many seem to think...
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"What could be the outcome of this?
Is it a SFA docking points, a fine, paying fare value for the land, all three"
Considering that the lynch mob fronted by sometime lawyer, sometime low level paper gatherer Fat Rod proposed the loss of titles and trophies for charges of cheating and financial doping that were made against Rangers. Charges that their own investigation proved to be false, I would say that a precedent a been set as to the punishments they should face. If it was proven that they have benefited from these deals I would indeed be a form of financial doping that would have given them a financial benefit on the pitch.
Exactly.
Had this come out before our issues NOTHING would have been done. But they made a rod for their own backs, precedents have been set. Standards defined...
Why else did the scum hire a new fandango litigation lawyer not that long ago...
The very least that should happen is us paying for a huge billboard and making the public aware of where their tax pounds are going.... That would make the press. Just maybe not in fat Sam's rhepublican black hole to oblivion
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Why is this in the Bears Dden?
Some people are getting obsessed with this mhob, who gives a fuck?
Why is he in the Bears Den?
Some people can't help but obsess over their deluded concept of self importance. Who gives a fuck what your kind say?
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Simone Inzaghi?
Score for fun up here but I'd be raging if we signed him. No sell on value!
ALLY OOT!!
Lmao
Don't you dare derail this thread wae yer Ally Oot pish!
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Its showing the bheasts that the last desperate lie of bigotry they could try to throw at us that of anti Irish bigotry, is now useless to them. Its not about giving NI to the taigs or any other silly notion but a statement that Rangers and our fans are welcoming to all good people.
You have to be trolling mate...
A RC for a captain from Italy wasn't good enough. Nothing will ever be good enough. So why on earth will this be good enough to achieve anything at all...
Gotta be trolling
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Better watch people, simple Simone will be along shortly to insult you and question your ethos and belief system for some of that.
To be fair to simple. Comprehension isn't his strong point, or logic, or intellect... I'll stop there...
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Right guid read. Nice one
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oops, haha...yeah should have my glasses instead of my beer goggles.
Still, no need for calling a bear a Tim.
If they can't have a sensible discussion then silence and observation would be the better option.
Now I'm going to take a leaf out of my own book and do the same
No worries.
And we're in agreement as I didn't call him a Tim.
Still trying to work out why you quoted me with a rebuff if I'm honest. I only asked you a civil question when you get down to it.
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never mind focussing your cheek towards me young man. You are relatively new here to be posting accusations of the Timothy kind. Clearly you do not read the pinned notices on such like.
If you believe he is a Timothy then maybe you should have a quiet word with the mods with your "fears"
All to quick to judge someone over 160 characters of flaming twitter.
You having a laugh?
Fail of the year, but, it's still early t o be fair... Lol
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Can we stop making accusations on fellow bears being Timothy's and behave like "mature" adults if possible...
Good grief!
Just as well I'm not a mod here...I would lock some of you in the naughty bears corner for a week if there was such a place. Maybe something that needs implemented for the hotheads here.
Have you read the tweet?
Just asking
A concensus on Ally's performance...
in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom
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Just for clarity, that dafty calling others a taig or whatever is alright. But someone says it back and it's harsh...Yeah, alright...
Edited to try and help me through my growing up stage...