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    Goodwillie To Sign For Blackburn Tomorrow

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

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    Not a mention of rangers on the goodwillie bit, just says he will have a medical in morning and expect him to sign

    Another player ally wanted and has been let down by whyte

    I'm sure ally would have expected to get miller or goodwillie , but to get neither is a slap in the face to him.

    I fear ally is going to get hung out to dry by this man once the bad results come, and the worst of it is when that time comes everyone will be that angry with McCoist due to the results, whyte will get off Scott free and bump ally to the approval of most of our fans

    This guy is to be watched

    Do not talk so much shite.

    Stevie Crawford

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

    Posted

    Same makes me feel really old that he's 37 - main memories are him at Dundee United and Dunfermline was not bad at all. According to his wiki he plays for Cowdenbeath.

    Did he play for Aberdeen or am I making things up?

    ***The Official Football Manager 2011 Thread***

    in Gaming

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    Next year's FM needs to be far more realistic for lower-league management.

    I enjoyed all my games in LLM - at Montrose, Weston-super-Mare and Gloucester City - but there's a helluva lot of realism still missing. It's far too easy to arrange reserve friendlies away to some New Zealand outfit and reel in £20k for every 90 minutes. It's also too easy to bring in players from small countries like Reunion; they just wouldn't move half-way across the world to sunny Gloucester. :lol:

    SI need to have a look at all areas of LLM.

    The Politics Of Hatred: S.s. Lazio Vs. A.s. Livorno

    in General Football & Sport

    Posted

    The Politics of Hatred: S.S. Lazio Vs. A.S. Livorno

    By diversandwankers on July 29th, 2011

    Written By Kyle Morse of DiversandWankers.com

    (Editor’s Note: By no means are we judging any supporters of the clubs in this article. We recognize that these are ultras and do not represent the club or the majority of their supporters. We are here to analyze the extremist groups within these clubs. Additional note, we do believe a political impact can have a great effect on the game, but not through violence. Enjoy.)

    Tried to insert a photo of Cristiano Lucarelli, an openly-minded far-left striker at Livorno, most will remember him from his days at Shakhtar not so long ago.

    Hooliganism and violence in Calcio is hardly a well-kept secret, with violence boiling over due to racism, local animosity, and often forgotten, political violence between opposition clubs. Much love any supporter has for the Beautiful Game typically stems from the passion, emotion, and raw energy that permeates throughout the game, but when this effervescent attitude becomes manifested in racist, fascist, or communist chants, we begin to forget that the venue is indeed a footballing stadia. Regardless of political point of view (left, right, center, or diagonal) one cannot disagree that one of the fiercest political rivals in Calcio are S.S. Lazio (extreme right leaning) and A.S. Livorno (extreme left leaning). In a Derby that should be titled “Operation Barbarossa”, due to its Nazi/Fascist and Communist Imagery, the neutral football supporter gets a rare look at how a political ideology can affect the atmosphere on the pitch.

    No Serie A club’s supporters wear their political allegiance more boldly than Livorno’s, whose leanings are strongly to the left, the city of Livorno being the birthplace of Italy’s Communist party.

    -Ian Hawkey of The National

    Hailing from the birthplace of Italian Communism (PCI) has left an indelible mark on the city’s only football club, A.S. Livorno. While maintaining the label of a “leftist” club, Livorno supporters fully embody that identity by sporting Che Guevara banners as well as flags with sickle and hammer. Club legend and open Communist Cristiano Lucarelli has often ruffled Conservative (and Centrist for that matter) sentiments by pushing Socialist gestures (I.E. Che Guevara shirts and “The People’s Fist” Seen above) while in Livorno colors. Before every home fixture supporters of the Amaranto sing “Bandiera Rossa”, the Pro-Communist anthem during the resistance in World War 2.

    While maintaining a strong relationship with other left-wing football clubs such as Marseille and AEK Athens (forming what is called the Triangle of Brotherhood), tensions reach a boiling point when competing against clubs of the opposite political background (Lazio, Inter, and Verona). Although the rhetoric of brotherhood and solidarity may be well and fine, the brutality committed by the club’s Ultras is some of the most violent in Italian football.

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    Yet to the Lazio Ultra group Irriducibili, formed over twenty years ago, in the Curva Nord, Socialism tends to fall on deaf ears as they fall in line with fascist tendencies. While fascism is a taboo subject in post-world war Italy and Germany, club legend Paolo di Canio is often quoted as saying, “Mussolini was the best leader in the history of a united Italy.” An unabashed supporter of Italian Fascism, di Canio was often seen giving the fascist salute (seen right) to the Curva Nord during matches.

    While the rather infamous Irriducibili, as in line with fascist ideology, are to chant racist slurs against black players, including Lillian Thurman, who refused a move to Roman outfit due to racism amongst Ultras. Although some of the more heinous aspects of Lazio hooliganism includes the support of Arkan, a Serbian war criminal, and banners supporting the travesties that occurred at Auschwitz.

    I will not discuss the validity of either political extreme (mostly because I firmly see both ideologies as an apocalyptic experience) but what I see is a disturbing trend of blending extremist ideology with football and rivalry with hatred, into a dangerous molotov cocktail. With Calcio having lost its 4th Champion’s League spot to Germany next season, it has become commonplace to attempt to cure the ills of Italian Football. Yes, Calciopoli is the dominating reason for the recent decline of Italy, but the gang control and ultra violence remains an extreme issue and one that grants no favors or sympathy to the state of Calcio.

    Although adding a political agenda to the pitch can possibly end up in positive change, such as the Respect movement to end racist chants, but more often than not, political ideologies only add fuel to a burning flame when combined with football. No longer do you loathe a club’s existence because of a cross-town rivalry, but you begin to feel that this club’s ideology is one that threatens your way of life (according to perspective of course), and that is a dangerous combination, one that has injured or killed thousands. We have enough public discontent with politics; there is no need to conjoin the two.

    http://soccerlens.com/fans/the-politics-of-hatred-s-s-lazio-vs-a-s-livorno/

    Huge eye-opener for me with regards to Livorno, Marseille and AEK, not to mention the assosciation of Inter to the far-right! Obviously I was aware of the racism that emanates from many Italian clubs, with Inter being one of the most culpable, but I never knew it was so severe.

    I'm sure djw will love this.

    Goodwillie To Sign For Blackburn Tomorrow

    in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom

    Posted

    :lol:

    Who said that? doh

    No, sadly, you read it wrong, and not for the first time. As your old man for help.

    Secret meetings probably not but only a fool would think the bheggers dont talk to each other. Seltic cant afford him so whats the next best thing, us their contacts in the premier league where money is no object!

    Goodwillies goals could win us the league, it is a clear threat to Lennons job and Seltics future, i believe they would try anything to make sure he doesnt come here.

    That pretty much leans towards everything I said.

    And see for the patronising tone you take with everyone on the forum? Get rid of it.

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