dundeebear3
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Ive no idea about McCoists coaching abilities but i reckon hes worth his wait in gold for his positive attitude in the dressing room. It must rub off on the players.
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Couldnt resist
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I hope he means it.
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Smith doesnt seem to like playing many small players in the same team. I noticed when we had a full squad very rarely did more than one of Novo, Burke or Naismith get in the same team.
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Wasnt there a similar story where Souness came on late and pulled up with a hamstring injury? Que the Rangers players not passing to him during those last few minutes.
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I think some of the figuers here are way off the mark and hopelessly optomistic.
The Champions league money is split with Celitc - and is likely to be £5-6M not £10M we all quote - Its about £10M if there is only one team getting the money.
The UEFA Cup Run - cant see it generating £2.5M per stage, more like £1M (Home gate and TV Money - I know the German TV paid about £450k - we turned down bigger money to change KO time.
Yes there is the Hutton cash - not sure how that turns out in cash flow - but if its in stages that must be the norm and we can by in stages so that doea addd £9M.
SDM will use a chunk to reduce debt. (£6M) so we probably have about £10M to spend - but when you look at Cousin, Marcus de Beasley and JCD they did NOT cost the earth and increased the quality. Next seasons cash wont come into it as if we do make CL automatically that cash will be used for the season after to reduce debt buy players.
With WS going on record as looking to add 2 -3 playes of quality that IMPROVE the team and some replacements of utility player likely to go (Hemdani and Buffel for sure, and some deadwood, Faye for one). (I think it is well recognised now that a large pool of players is required) So even although I disagree with some of the figures quoted I do see there being enough cash to improve the quality of the team and reduce the debt. Please remember reducing the debt is a key to making us stronger financialy (and thus on the park) in the future and SDM is correct to reduce the debt while taking care of the team for next year.
But does the £10m CL cash not include gate receipts?
As for the UEFA Cup, in the QF if we we had 50,000 at £35.00+ then that's £1.75m plus TV money, related commercial cash and UEFA prize money then it's well abiove your £1m.
It is in terms of turnover but not in terms of Profit - and its only the profit we can spend NOT the whole lot - thus I dont think a UEFA leg will add more than £1M to transfer kiity/debt reduction. I just wanted to dampen the thoughts that there was £20M - £25M kicking about (so to speak) for transfers / debt reduction - I dont think it is nearly that high - but still very healthy!
So what are the costs that reduce the turnover of, say, £2.5m to a profit of £1m? They must be minimal, and nowhere near £1.5m you are suggesting.
I certainly agree that there isn't £20-£25m floating around for transfers/debt reduction as I pointed out in my initial post in this thread, but each round in the UEFA is worth more than £1m.
Wages, win bonuses, tax, interest repayments on our debt, player accomodation, travelling expenses for away legs, policing, stewarding and...............................Andy Cameron.
I remember the year Celtic got to the final. There next years financial results werent great. Consensus was that getting all the way to the UEFA final was the financially equivalent to a poorish champions League season. We have had only 4 rounds compared to Celtics umpteen, including 2 moneyspinners against English clubs.
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We started off the year with a debt of ?16.5m after making a loss of over ?6m last season. We then spent in excess of ?10m on Cousin, Cuellar, Whittaker, McCulloch and Naismith. This is largely met by the sale of Hutton. Based on the half year accounts, we were looking at making a loss in excess of ?2m before the sale of Hutton and the UEFA cup run. If the UEFA cup run has brought us ?8m then we are looking at the debt being reduced down to around ?10m, still higher than it was in June 2006.
Back of the envelope stuff as I have no idea about the timing of the cash for transfers in and out.
Murray took a risk by spending big last summer without a guaranteed return of CL football. Was he banking on the sale of Hutton, even then? It will be interesting to see if he continues down that route by spending big again, as the cash generated from this season isn't as much as the headlines would lead you to believe.
Some sense.
I doubt Walter will get much over 10 million to spend this summer. 12 million at the very most(if Cousin is sold).
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Defensively i thought he was great tonight. If only he was more threatening going forward.
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Dont think the UEFA cup is worth that much compared with the CL. Hopefuly this run will help to bring in a couple of players next season. It wont be enough to spend on large transfers. Every little helps though.
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that was another long ball tonight from kuyt that teed up babel nicely, they do work
There was a guy in the '80's who analysed hundreds of goals and came up with the conclusion that the vast majority came from three touches or less, or something like that. I can't remember his name, think he had a military title. He advocated the long ball game.
Emlyn Hughes, I'm almost certain. He was in the charge of the coaching of the FA at one point, I have a book of his upstairs.
Don't think it was Emlyn Hughes. The guy wasn't an ex-player as far as I remember.
Cant remember the guys name either but it certainly wasnt Emlyn Hughes.
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Re: Ferguson
its because he's playing the more advanced role this season. In previous seasons he's been sitting further back and performing (in terms of passing, tackling and general contribution) much better. Hes had more assists this season because hes been playing in the right position to play the ball through
Ive never been impressed with Barry playing further forward, its not his natural game. Far better in a deeper role.
Gow and Buffel are not chosen because there lack of defensive work im sure.
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... some of the posts on here are BS...suggesting KB isn't worth ?3m just shows that the poster doesn't understand the EPL market...
Quoted responses to this news include:
bluenose. madon April 6th, 2008 10:52 pm
"6million is cheap for a good striker!"
Peter McAleeron April 7th, 2008 3:08 am
"... if Walter is daft enough to let him go for a mere 6 - 8Million youd be getting a bargain for goals scored. Poacher supreme & not pushed about either as he is a big strong lad unafraid to put his head in."
Ben Howardon April 7th, 2008 10:13 am
"Sell AJ to the Hammers for ?10m and get Kris Boyd in for ?6m? sounds like good business to me. Then just make sure we get some midfielders that can actually pass the ball to our forwards."
The last bit in bold is what interests me... if Boyd played in an EPL side with top class service he'd be lapping up the goals... and I wonder what the response from all the "sell him cheap and fast" merchants will be then. The boy has a natural goal scoring talent that is hard to find and many teams will pay very good money for it...
Walter's team style doesn't work for Boyd, but he is still the highest scoring Gers striker with half the starts of those around him...
He has been more patient and loyal than most would have been in his situation, having racked up the goals and then sat on the bench week in, week out... he loves the Gers and shows it.... I admire these qualities even if few others want to recognise them as assets...
He'd also be expected to score regularly against top class defenders, something hes not proven hes capable of - yet.
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There's only one player in our squad that I'd value at more than £4m, and that's Cuellar at around £8m.
Agreed.
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Depends how we are valuing players.
Some of those are reasonable, others are only silly Premiership bids with over inflated price tags.
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Not worth anywhere near 6 million quid. Bite anyones hand off who offers even half of that.
Have we ever had a world cup holder play for us?
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