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why oh why is it always the same 3 or 4 who want the tims to sing about all things IRA and "folk songs" yet dont want us singing loyalist songs. If we stop the loyalist songs, the british songs will be offensive to all next. The atmosphere at ibrox is shite without "banning" songs ffs. Do you honestly want to go to ibrox and sit and do fuck all. People like willbeary and mmrfc are always in on threads like this, that says it all for me.
I dont do home games anymore and its cunts like them that have made me stop. I enjoy being with like minded folk at the away days and UCL away games. Id rather spend a huge amount going to sway games were i know fellow fans will not be "upset and hurt" at the songs im singing.
The loyalist paramilitries that you seem dead against were doing something that most of us would not have the balls to do and that is fight an enemy who were intent on killing all things protestant. Also who were in the trenches fighting against the germans during WW1? thats right its the UVF, the guys that offend you deeply. As for the billy boys. F*nian only means catholic to those who have re written a dictionary to suit there agenda. So if i want to find the word soldier for instance offesnive i could just start telling people it means something it dosent. In no way whatsoever does the word F*nian mean catholic, sure you can dress it up as that but it isnt. No matter how you want to to argue it dosent. Remember great crusaders of all things offensive, the billy boys were around long before Rangers fans sang it. So who was it they fought? Ahh it was the F*nians, not catholics, muslims, buhdists, protestants, no religion whatsoever it was just plain F*nians we fought against.
Did any of you know that some of the highest ranking F*nians were actually protestants(altho why would that shower play around with facts, they dont like facts do they?) There has been and always will be catholic Rangers fans who sing the song, have sang the song and will always sing it, so where the fucks the problem??Some of our fans love to be right in amongst timmy, a band of merry men who support the Ira, hate Britain, love to disrupt 1 minutes silences werever they go, indeed thanks to them we now have minutes applause. Och as long as we all get along rosie eh? after all were aw H*** anyway eh?
I didn't say anything about wanting celtic fans to sing pro IRA songs or did I say anything about me being ok with it, in fact I couldn't give a fuck what they sing,I'm a Rangers fan and am only concerned about Rangers and what they sing. I don't get offended at loyalist's songs
, nor did I say ban this or that song . So you don't go to home game's because the atmosphere's shite ?, it is a pitty the atmosphere is shite, but is the main reason to go to Ibrox not to support Rangers ?. I wonder, do you just read the first few words of my post's and make up the rest ?.I think you just contradicted yourself there.
And you have also said you don't want TBB boys sung so your also blowing wind up the wrong tree there also.
You might as well say ban every song that I don't agree with.
How did I contradict myself exactly ?. I never said anything about wanting TBB not to be sung at all, I would just rather we didn't. Blowing wind up the wrong tree, what the fuck does that mean ?.
How did you not contradict yourself exactly ?
And once again.
You don't even know yourself
, your trying to avoid explaining how in your small mind I contrtadicted myself , now explain ....If you can't read what i highlighted and not see how you contradicted yourself then i give up altogether.
Does anyone else see how he contradicted himself?
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why oh why is it always the same 3 or 4 who want the tims to sing about all things IRA and "folk songs" yet dont want us singing loyalist songs. If we stop the loyalist songs, the british songs will be offensive to all next. The atmosphere at ibrox is shite without "banning" songs ffs. Do you honestly want to go to ibrox and sit and do fuck all. People like willbeary and mmrfc are always in on threads like this, that says it all for me.
I dont do home games anymore and its cunts like them that have made me stop. I enjoy being with like minded folk at the away days and UCL away games. Id rather spend a huge amount going to sway games were i know fellow fans will not be "upset and hurt" at the songs im singing.
The loyalist paramilitries that you seem dead against were doing something that most of us would not have the balls to do and that is fight an enemy who were intent on killing all things protestant. Also who were in the trenches fighting against the germans during WW1? thats right its the UVF, the guys that offend you deeply. As for the billy boys. F*nian only means catholic to those who have re written a dictionary to suit there agenda. So if i want to find the word soldier for instance offesnive i could just start telling people it means something it dosent. In no way whatsoever does the word F*nian mean catholic, sure you can dress it up as that but it isnt. No matter how you want to to argue it dosent. Remember great crusaders of all things offensive, the billy boys were around long before Rangers fans sang it. So who was it they fought? Ahh it was the F*nians, not catholics, muslims, buhdists, protestants, no religion whatsoever it was just plain F*nians we fought against.
Did any of you know that some of the highest ranking F*nians were actually protestants(altho why would that shower play around with facts, they dont like facts do they?) There has been and always will be catholic Rangers fans who sing the song, have sang the song and will always sing it, so where the fucks the problem??Some of our fans love to be right in amongst timmy, a band of merry men who support the Ira, hate Britain, love to disrupt 1 minutes silences werever they go, indeed thanks to them we now have minutes applause. Och as long as we all get along rosie eh? after all were aw H*** anyway eh?
I didn't say anything about wanting celtic fans to sing pro IRA songs or did I say anything about me being ok with it, in fact I couldn't give a fuck what they sing,I'm a Rangers fan and am only concerned about Rangers and what they sing. I don't get offended at loyalist's songs
, nor did I say ban this or that song . So you don't go to home game's because the atmosphere's shite ?, it is a pitty the atmosphere is shite, but is the main reason to go to Ibrox not to support Rangers ?. I wonder, do you just read the first few words of my post's and make up the rest ?.I think you just contradicted yourself there.
And you have also said you don't want TBB boys sung so your also blowing wind up the wrong tree there also.
You might as well say ban every song that I don't agree with.
How did I contradict myself exactly ?. I never said anything about wanting TBB not to be sung at all, I would just rather we didn't. Blowing wind up the wrong tree, what the fuck does that mean ?.
How did you not contradict yourself exactly ?
And once again.
You don't even know yourself
, your trying to avoid explaining how in your small mind I contrtadicted myself , now explain ....Never heard of that before.
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why oh why is it always the same 3 or 4 who want the tims to sing about all things IRA and "folk songs" yet dont want us singing loyalist songs. If we stop the loyalist songs, the british songs will be offensive to all next. The atmosphere at ibrox is shite without "banning" songs ffs. Do you honestly want to go to ibrox and sit and do fuck all. People like willbeary and mmrfc are always in on threads like this, that says it all for me.
I dont do home games anymore and its cunts like them that have made me stop. I enjoy being with like minded folk at the away days and UCL away games. Id rather spend a huge amount going to sway games were i know fellow fans will not be "upset and hurt" at the songs im singing.
The loyalist paramilitries that you seem dead against were doing something that most of us would not have the balls to do and that is fight an enemy who were intent on killing all things protestant. Also who were in the trenches fighting against the germans during WW1? thats right its the UVF, the guys that offend you deeply. As for the billy boys. F*nian only means catholic to those who have re written a dictionary to suit there agenda. So if i want to find the word soldier for instance offesnive i could just start telling people it means something it dosent. In no way whatsoever does the word F*nian mean catholic, sure you can dress it up as that but it isnt. No matter how you want to to argue it dosent. Remember great crusaders of all things offensive, the billy boys were around long before Rangers fans sang it. So who was it they fought? Ahh it was the F*nians, not catholics, muslims, buhdists, protestants, no religion whatsoever it was just plain F*nians we fought against.
Did any of you know that some of the highest ranking F*nians were actually protestants(altho why would that shower play around with facts, they dont like facts do they?) There has been and always will be catholic Rangers fans who sing the song, have sang the song and will always sing it, so where the fucks the problem??Some of our fans love to be right in amongst timmy, a band of merry men who support the Ira, hate Britain, love to disrupt 1 minutes silences werever they go, indeed thanks to them we now have minutes applause. Och as long as we all get along rosie eh? after all were aw H*** anyway eh?
I didn't say anything about wanting celtic fans to sing pro IRA songs or did I say anything about me being ok with it, in fact I couldn't give a fuck what they sing,I'm a Rangers fan and am only concerned about Rangers and what they sing. I don't get offended at loyalist's songs
, nor did I say ban this or that song . So you don't go to home game's because the atmosphere's shite ?, it is a pitty the atmosphere is shite, but is the main reason to go to Ibrox not to support Rangers ?. I wonder, do you just read the first few words of my post's and make up the rest ?.I think you just contradicted yourself there.
And you have also said you don't want TBB boys sung so your also blowing wind up the wrong tree there also.
You might as well say ban every song that I don't agree with.
How did I contradict myself exactly ?. I never said anything about wanting TBB not to be sung at all, I would just rather we didn't. Blowing wind up the wrong tree, what the fuck does that mean ?.
How did you not contradict yourself exactly ?
And once again.
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why oh why is it always the same 3 or 4 who want the tims to sing about all things IRA and "folk songs" yet dont want us singing loyalist songs. If we stop the loyalist songs, the british songs will be offensive to all next. The atmosphere at ibrox is shite without "banning" songs ffs. Do you honestly want to go to ibrox and sit and do fuck all. People like willbeary and mmrfc are always in on threads like this, that says it all for me.
I dont do home games anymore and its cunts like them that have made me stop. I enjoy being with like minded folk at the away days and UCL away games. Id rather spend a huge amount going to sway games were i know fellow fans will not be "upset and hurt" at the songs im singing.
The loyalist paramilitries that you seem dead against were doing something that most of us would not have the balls to do and that is fight an enemy who were intent on killing all things protestant. Also who were in the trenches fighting against the germans during WW1? thats right its the UVF, the guys that offend you deeply. As for the billy boys. F*nian only means catholic to those who have re written a dictionary to suit there agenda. So if i want to find the word soldier for instance offesnive i could just start telling people it means something it dosent. In no way whatsoever does the word F*nian mean catholic, sure you can dress it up as that but it isnt. No matter how you want to to argue it dosent. Remember great crusaders of all things offensive, the billy boys were around long before Rangers fans sang it. So who was it they fought? Ahh it was the F*nians, not catholics, muslims, buhdists, protestants, no religion whatsoever it was just plain F*nians we fought against.
Did any of you know that some of the highest ranking F*nians were actually protestants(altho why would that shower play around with facts, they dont like facts do they?) There has been and always will be catholic Rangers fans who sing the song, have sang the song and will always sing it, so where the fucks the problem??Some of our fans love to be right in amongst timmy, a band of merry men who support the Ira, hate Britain, love to disrupt 1 minutes silences werever they go, indeed thanks to them we now have minutes applause. Och as long as we all get along rosie eh? after all were aw H*** anyway eh?
I didn't say anything about wanting celtic fans to sing pro IRA songs or did I say anything about me being ok with it, in fact I couldn't give a fuck what they sing,I'm a Rangers fan and am only concerned about Rangers and what they sing. I don't get offended at loyalist's songs
, nor did I say ban this or that song . So you don't go to home game's because the atmosphere's shite ?, it is a pitty the atmosphere is shite, but is the main reason to go to Ibrox not to support Rangers ?. I wonder, do you just read the first few words of my post's and make up the rest ?.I think you just contradicted yourself there.
And you have also said you don't want TBB boys sung so your also blowing wind up the wrong tree there also.
You might as well say ban every song that I don't agree with.
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Get your facts right you stupid fcuk!
another mod has told me so himself..................gimme one reason and i'll fok off
Shite, I can't ban people. Do us all a favour and fcuk off!
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Get your facts right you stupid fcuk!
another mod has told me so himself..................gimme one reason and i'll fok off
Ill give you 3 more posts
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why would you muff a racist?
Muff a racist
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Whos this cunt?
sandy,it's me man the
man himself,he keeps reapearing just like houdini 
muff i bet you're gutted cos you can't get rid of me.
well i tell you what be a man and send me a mail and tell me whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
otherwise i'm gonna be the nightmare you never wished you were gonna encouter PAL
You bumb this again you are wired.
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Oh has it now..........where has it moved on?
The RIRA and CIRA are still active.....Israel and the Palestinians are still bombing each other....there are Sectarian Wars going on in Iraq and Pakistan as well as terror wars world wide....are we in a different world than 30 years ago...
It's the same old world with only different front lines
So, because other country's are having sectarian wars that means us as Rangers should not move on, and we should continue the FTP chants and sing the billy boys ?.
The Billy Boys is not sectarian and since we stopped singing it Ibrox Atmosphere is embarrassing.
I never said anything about TBB being sectarian, but it is always going to looked at that way, and yes the atmosphere at Ibrox is embarrassing, away games are much better.
Does it matter how it's looked upon?
As long as we can prove it's not sectarian we can sing it without any repercussions and stop bowing to media pressure
can we not just change F*nian for something else...using RM to filter out the new lyric and bring it back and the atmosphere for league games, what to change it to i dont know, but i love the song, but it is a banana skin for the club to get picked up on and we dont need that in our current circumstances
You can't change it sorry just wouldn't be the same.
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The "EUFA" directive that appears on here is nothing short of laughable.
TBB has NEVER been banned by UEFA.
While doing research for an article on VB I trawled through UEFA's site and came across the original decision, then the appeal decision, here they are.
Original :
Not guilty
The body declared the Rangers fans not guilty of alleged discriminatory chants at both legs of the tie, which Villarreal won on the away-goals rule after the two sides had finished 3-3 on aggregate. The bodys decision can be appealed against within three days.
Social problem
In examining the alleged discriminatory chants, the Control & Disciplinary Body admitted that the nature of the song concerned Billy Boys - related to a social problem in Scotland. The body also believed that the disciplinary decision in this case had to be taken in the context of Scotlands social and historical background.
Studied evidence
After studying the evidence at hand as well as the statement of Rangers FC, the Control & Disciplinary Body conceded that supporters have been singing the song "Billy Boys" for years during national and international matches without either the Scottish football or governmental authorities being able to intervene. The result is that this song is now somehow tolerated.
Social and historical context
Given this social and historical context, the Control & Disciplinary Body said it considered that UEFA cannot demand an end to behavior which has been tolerated for years. In view of the above, the Control & Disciplinary Body ruled that, despite the behavior of its supporters, Rangers FC had not infringed Article 5 of the UEFA Disciplinary Regulations (click here) and cannot be punished according to Article 6
The above appeared on the UEFA website on 13th April 2006.
And appeal was lodged, here:
UEFA's Appeals Body has today partially upheld the appeal made against the Control and Disciplinary Body's decision concerning Scottish club Rangers FC and their UEFA Champions League first knockout round tie against Villarreal CF.
Rangers fined
UEFA appealed against the decision on 12 April by the Control and Disciplinary Body to find Rangers not guilty of alleged discriminatory chants by the club's supporters at both legs of the tie, on 22 February at Ibrox and 7 March at El Madrigal. Rangers have been fined €19,500 and severely warned about their responsibility for any future misconduct by their fans in relation to sectarian and discriminatory behaviour.
Future directives
In addition, the Appeals Body will combine the disciplinary measures with directives safeguarding the correct execution of the judgement. The directives themselves will be communicated to Rangers along with the full written grounds for the disciplinary decision.
The above was on UEFA's website on 24th May 2006.
Are we to believe, in the first 'directive' posted on here, that UEFA would spell one of their member clubs names incorrectly?
That 'directive' has appeared on TWO sites before RM, :
1 - The 'bluenose' site
2 - Scotzine
It's a hoax directive put about by bheasts, plain and simple.
I would say that isn't to far away, they would certainly like to see this song banned for real they have obviously done their homework and seen that it hasn't been banned and then created a fictional directive to put around forums.
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the thing is I WILL BE SINGING IT this year along with thousands of others
if the powers that be want it to stop then either all fans cease with such songs or none
if you dont want to sing it dont; but dont ask me or others to stop
According to Travelingbhoy all us Rangers fans are bigots for doing so
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Rangers have a very proud Unionist and, yes, Protestant tradition - nothing to be ashamed of and well worth celebrating
It is not worth celebrating if it manifests itself in emtpy headed Bigotry ('FTP') and songs about Ulster Paramilitarys
Emtpy headed Bigotry
again i will ask you what is bigot because it's obvious that you only use that word against Rangers fans?No, Celtic have plenty of Bigots - as have we, something you cant seem to accept
If you only think that thats being a bigot then i think you need to open your eyes mate?
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As I understand it 'F*nian' is a member of an Irish Republican movement
So then do you have sympathy for the Republican movement?
Where did THAT come from???
You said it not me
If i recall you wouldn't sing anything with the word F*nian in it.
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As I understand it 'F*nian' is a member of an Irish Republican movement
So then do you have sympathy for the Republican movement?
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Rangers have a very proud Unionist and, yes, Protestant tradition - nothing to be ashamed of and well worth celebrating
It is not worth celebrating if it manifests itself in emtpy headed Bigotry ('FTP') and songs about Ulster Paramilitarys
Emtpy headed Bigotry
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I will break it down quite easily.
The way i see it the ones who want to continue singing the Billy Boys are the ones who don't believe the media,who don't read the papers and who won't bow to Roman influence.
The ones who want to stop singing it are easily led by the club and the media. The "Chamberlains" of the support as i call them.
If the club asked them to stop wearing blue to a match as it might offend i have no doubt the vast majority of the "Chamberlains" would do it.
Some are sheep in life and some are able to think for themselves and see the bigger picture.
I want us to stop singing it and I dont believe anything I read in Newspapers - on the rare occasion I actually buy one and read the Sport section
People aren't that easily defined - it's not black and white when it comes to this argument
Yes they are.You either have the balls to sing it or you don't.
You want it stopped presumably because you think it's Sectarian.What we'll never know is whether you formed that opinion based on the media and their relentless crusade against us or of your own accord for reasons i will never understand nor agree with.
I formed my opinion all on my lonesome
I'd just rather sing about Rangers - I have absolutely no desire to sing about 'F*nians'
but F*nians sing songs about F*nians so what;s the problem
I wonder what Travelings perception of the word F*nian means to him he hasn't clearly stated that yet.
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What do you mean, you want to stop singing it? It's easy just stop. I think you really mean you want to act like a dictatorand stop others from singing it.
I mean I'd rather we stopped singing it
I understand people will continue regardless but I'd rather they didn't
That is still telling people what to do like a dictator. Nope, I'd rather they didn't but I am not going to tell anyone to stop singing it
Can i ask you why because it isn't even banned.
Because I have absolutely no desire to sing about being up to my knee's in F*nian blood - Whatever the word 'F*nian' means
I'd rather sing about Rangers FC
And TBB has nothing to do with Rangers traditions - it's about a razor gang in Glasgow from the 30's
Can i ask what your perception of Rangers traditions are because honestly I'm lost with what kind of philosophy you have when it comes to Rangers.
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What do you mean, you want to stop singing it? It's easy just stop. I think you really mean you want to act like a dictatorand stop others from singing it.
I mean I'd rather we stopped singing it
I understand people will continue regardless but I'd rather they didn't
That is still telling people what to do like a dictator. Can you read at all ?. He's not telling anybody what to do.
Can you not read he was just telling people what to do in a different polite manor
if you can't see that we don't have much hope for you.
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What do you mean, you want to stop singing it? It's easy just stop. I think you really mean you want to act like a dictatorand stop others from singing it.
I mean I'd rather we stopped singing it
I understand people will continue regardless but I'd rather they didn't
That is still telling people what to do like a dictator. Nope, I'd rather they didn't but I am not going to tell anyone to stop singing it
Can i ask you why because it isn't even banned.
And you seem to have an anti Rangers traditions view.
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What do you mean, you want to stop singing it? It's easy just stop. I think you really mean you want to act like a dictatorand stop others from singing it.
I mean I'd rather we stopped singing it
I understand people will continue regardless but I'd rather they didn't
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I have no problem or have I said anything against the traditions of Rangers, your talking shite and are yet against posting LIE'S. Me and you have both established from the previous time you pm'd me that I am much more of a Rangers fan than you are. Where in my previous post's did I give the slightest indication that I hate anything British/Loyalist/Protestant
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There is never going to be an answer to this, the support is split in half so both sides wil never be happy.
It's not split in half lad these cunts are only shit stirring bastards.
So believing different from other people is shit stirring
?.Thats the problem you don't believe in nothing how can you say you believe different.
I don't believe in nothing ?.
If you really are a Rangers fan (which i doubt it) you would see what real tradition and beliefs are.
While you are just being programed by the government and media propaganda with there vendetta against anything British,loyalist or Protestant.
Open your mind and explore a bit before making assumptions about something you clearly don't know about or are being taught wrong about.
Don't just watch the news read a newspaper or listen to someone and think that that's the way it is because its a big world and allot of stuff aren't talked about.
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There is never going to be an answer to this, the support is split in half so both sides wil never be happy.
It's not split in half lad these cunts are only shit stirring bastards.
So believing different from other people is shit stirring
?.Thats the problem you don't believe in nothing how can you say you believe different.
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Gents - assistance required.
I am talking the family for the first time. My kids are young but love watching and singing. Where would be the best place to go to see a great walk?
Obliged
BDHK
Londonderry on the 14th of August ABOD parade or to the 12th in Belfast or Portrush, i'm heading to port myself should be good.
, nor did I say ban this or that song 
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Footbal Chants and Sectarianism
in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom
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What you on about i haven't even said Scotch once.