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On 21/11/2017 at 17:21, Falcoholic said:
Can someone please talk her into buying Rangers instead
Tranny ?
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3 hours ago, William McBeath said:
It's simple in my opinion when you take out all the smoke and mirrors. Whyte came in to put us into administration. The idea that he could buy the club using season book cash without ticketus informing Murray is ludicrous as is the idea that he didn't know Whyte was a relative nobody and a dodgy failed businessman. He knew he had no money. Murray just wanted out of the hot seat before the EBT case took us into deep waters.
All the rest is really just the ado. The above is the crucial points. We were fucked from the moment Murray's businesses got into big trouble and he lost most of his worth because he had put us in debt and used EBTs to the extent he did. He sold to Whyte knowing what he would do and no doubt Whyte knew that Murray also knew what was going on even if it wasn't said in absolute terms.
I'd agree with most of those 'bones'.
I think it fairly clear that Whyte was moreso brought in to do the 'dirty business'.
The whole thing (including post Whyte) has been an ongoing and fluid huge stitch-up with the club/fans the victims.
- Follow the money,....... eg. Sir Duped today
- Accountability,...........Who has been found to be accountable and punished ?
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Wrt to the podcast title,....the club advertised for a director of comms and marketing recently.
Hopefully positive change will come from this.
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Traynor and L5 aren't working, OUT.........'simples'
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If some of the fans cry to make enemies of the media and tear down bridges then they can't expect to be able to 'control the narrative' with any real effect.
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Team selection
As availability stands: Our squad is very light in numbers/decent options
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2 hours ago, gj923 said:
I think this is total bullshit as this originated from that roaster John James who stays in a bedsit but pretends to be hiding overseas.
He released what he claimed was the first chapter yesterday and is now asking for a fiver a head to read the rest of the chapter summaries.
I mean come on to fuck that the DUP tried to get him a seat in the house of lords!
Sounds as if it should be filed under 'fiction'.
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1. Robertson isn't a CEO
2. IMO we need a hard-nosed and competent CEO implementing a 'joined-up' long term strategy, that we stick to and that encompasses the club as a whole.
3. Investing any money without a well considered strategy in place will see more waste.
Good Strategy.. + ..Good personnel.. + ..Adequate investment = A chance to go forward.
Remove any of the three and we'll fall short.
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5 hours ago, City_of_Blue said:
I hate David Murray just as much
Sir Duped was the main catalyst and is so obviously bullshitting with his side of the CW takeover 'jackanory'.
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BMG were the first team I saw put us out of Europe back in 1973.
Germans (Cologne) would also put us out in the EC QF 78/79 (after beating Juventus and PSV).
Makes you marvel at how we managed to put Bayern Munich out of the ECWC in 72, a team full of Germans who had won the European Championship and would go onto win the WC in 74.
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Just now, Turnberry18 said:
But you "understand" why it has taken this long. This is a football club, you appoint a manager, he fails, you replace him. What's to understand? If we have a board who are overwhelmed that they might make a mistake then we don't have a very good board. Improve on the last the appointment; it's not that complicated.
I think I've stated what I think and why, on various occasions.
Try reading them slowly.
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4 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said:
That might depend on where you eat? You give this board more than just the benefit of the doubt, I get that, but I don't understand why they are taking this long. We had a chance to exert pressure with them still in the CL, and we have drifted back making it much easier. They should have done their homework months ago.
No, I have said that the last 18 months has been an omnishambles and it is their own fault why they arrive at this juncture with so much in the air and uncertain.
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8 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said:
If I went out for a meal with someone who worked in the catering trade and they took 45 minutes to decide what they wanted for dinner, it wouldn't give me a great deal of confidence in their ability. Four weeks nearly, and not even a clue who we will end up with?
But if that person had suffered a bad bout of food posioning from his previous visit, he may have deliberated over his choice somewhat longer.
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I agree in that I'd have preferred a quick resolution with IMO the obvious candidate but all I'm saying is that I can understand why it has developed the way it has.
However, it's the boards own decisions during the past 18 months that have pushed them down this track.
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32 minutes ago, Reformation Bear said:
Another case of player power eh. As there were plenty of media reported rumblings when Miller and others were sidelined for a bit and then made their comeback once friendly faced Murty was installed as the temp, so those not favoured these days also have views.
He would seem to be looking towards the exit door, possibly with some of the others Pedro brought in, and in doing so making it clear that learner-driver managers should not be leaving players of his calibre out of the side in favour of picking local better-known and maybe more grateful faces. A split dressing room is what is happening here imo - something Pedro alluded to before he was dumped with his belief that local players were not making the foreign arrivals welcome enough.
The DOF, and King for that matter, must surely be asking questions about why expensively acquired players are not playing when they were brought in to be making a difference.
This also points to the need to get a suitably experienced and respected manager in quickly. Murty is just juggling the plates so to speak, keeping his known british faces content with games and sub appearances but marginalising those he does not seem to care much for. You'd think a DOF would be getting a grip of all of this. But no, our DOF is out there grabbing some air miles in the endless search for a new manager while some of the players the new manager might want to use are becoming restless watching amateur-hour being played out at managerial level, DOF level and at director level.
I agree with most of that although given circumstances, I wouldn't blame the board for going through with the selection process as they had decided to do it.
Where they are to blame, is why it has all reached this stage and for 18 months of omnishambles.
I said a week or two ago that I thought they might end up getting the wrong man but with what seemed the 'right process'. I'd lean heavier toward that now.
Post the Kilmarnock draw was IMO crying out for an almost immediate approach for McInnes but the board were probably divided and having got the Pedro appt. wrong on a systemic level decided they had to take their time and do it in a 'thorough manner'. ...but it's really more about getting it right.
The AGM arrives at a time when the club needs to take stock and take measures/make changes at various levels.
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Good straightforward passage into the next round was what we needed. Gives a new manager some breathing space.
I know one Bear who'll be very pleased with this draw and for once there won't be a long journey involved.
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3 hours ago, Creampuff said:
If that’s true then sack him for breach of contract and sue him for his transfer fee.
Simply getting him off the wage bill would be a plus if the new manager was looking for some margin in the January transfer window.
I commented on the match thread after seeing the Murty pre-match interview that the 'back-injury story' sounded a bit dubious and Murty himself, wasn't quite himself. If true, the whole episode would have done the group no favours.
The Dundee match looks like another potential banana skin.
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16 minutes ago, bennybongo said:
Nobody is waiting in the wings. Nobody is going to come to the rescue. The first thing we need to accept is that we will have to turn over the scum with a fraction of their spending. Murray tried to flog us for years and ended up palming us off to a crook, then more crooks. Dave King is a crook too, and in some manner I haven't worked out yet, he is only there for a payout. What was the part in the accounts that mentioned interest on the "soft" loans?
Over the years (including the 20M when Sir Duped was around) DK seems to be employing a unique way of getting the "'pay-out" you mention.
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18 hours ago, Courtyard Bear said:
KAI answered for me.
Its the same old pish time after time, well they are all we have so we just have to like it or lump it.
No shares have to change hands to get proper people in that boardroom that have the first clue what they are doing.
No shares have to change hands to get rid of an incompetent General Manager and replaced with a proper CEO that again knows what the fuck he is doing.
No shares have to change hands to replace a toxic criminal chairman who lurches from one courtroom to another dragging the name of Rangers through the mud.
I'd agree that the dynamic needs changing.
- Added business and political expertise in the boardroom would be a plus.
- The overall current unseen dynamic wrt how decisions are made/ splits, etc. isn't working
- A hard-nosed and competent CEO is needed to manage a modified longterm strategy
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26 minutes ago, BOOTNECK-BEAR said:
Souness/Murray brought the players fans returned, no longer pay at the gate season ticket sales go through the roof. Fast forward only season ticket sales still applicable, King and the Klingons either pony up or we may end up back in the late 70s early 80s again.
Sir Duped didn't bring Souness in but yes he did arrive (late 1988) and find ways to bring quality players in.
The sooner the better that the board and the support realise that the "pony-up" option (to the extent neccessary) won't happen under anyone,...the better.
We need to stabilise the club and better manage a longterm strategy that seeks value for every pound spent....that sees us steadily improve as a sustainable business. It'll take years and is a significant challenge.
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East Fife at Ibrox please
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4 minutes ago, BOOTNECK-BEAR said:
Way back then you knew you were going home depressed. The stadium more empty than full some games you could probably have got all in one stand. Will it take the fans to revolt to get something done or will it be sit on our hands and say hee haw. I for one don't want to see that period again even though I was only in my pre puberty years it still a memory I don't want to re-run.
Crowds were relatively poor even when we were winning trophies under Jock Wallace in the 70's.
The vast increase in crowd numbers came with the Souness revolution, something that captured the imagination of the support and filled the stadium.
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20 hours ago, SuperPapac05 said:
It is the worst by a long stretch purely because I really thought we had turned a corner with Mark Warburton and his vision, focusing on young hungry players who will take us back to the top; sensible spending and working on getting better deals for the club from the board.
I have never felt as high as I did as a Bear when we won our semi against the taigs as it was a fine sign we were on our way back. To have all that hope and promise ripped away is despressing.
I think you touch on the time that things started to go t1ts-up and a tendency that has continued, desperately needs halted, then reversed.
Whatever the exact reasons behind it,....... it has developed into an ominishambles and the board have to answer for it.
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29 minutes ago, FSM said:
It was a conversation I was having with my old man about how shite we were at the moment. His response was "Ach, we've been shite before, and eventually we'll be great again". Made me realise these things have always been cyclic.
Sport has always been cyclical but it's increasingly more business than sport.
The financial disparities that are emerging in football, point towards a pecking order that is very difficult to change.
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It was actually 'a cunning plan' ala Bain.
Martin Bain called our board to request we make a false offer so that Sunderland would have to offer more.
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10 hours ago, Blue Avenger said:
Nothing gets sorted until this board is gone.
How many more dressing room splits can we afford? We must have a fucking workd record in them ffs.
It begs the question......
What or who that is well intentioned and bears pots of gold........... comes in it's place ?
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This isn't saying they can't go, it's asking the practical question of what would come next ?.....
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6 minutes ago, Real Ranger said:
I hold the board 100% responsible for the shambles on the pitch and they deserve all the criticism that comes their way for failing to bring in a manager worthy of the Rangers job, but for all their failings I think it's nonsense to suggest that because they also happen to be Rangers men that somehow makes them worse than a board that was working in the interests of Ashley / sports direct and showed their true colours by attempting to take the Rangers youth money on their way out the door.
What we have is the... 'hard of thinking Then'... attempting to justify themselves but only suceeding to show themselves as... 'the hard of thinking Now'.
You can bet your last penny on most of them becoming 'hard of thinking Tomorrow & probably Forever'.
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In an ideal world, Miller wouldn't be near the starting XI but our squad is very light at the moment and decent options are few.
Pena has been blacklisted, Kranjcar isn't mobile enough, Dorrans is injured.
It could be argued that Herrera hasn't been given a decent shot at it and if Moreleos is going to play much of the game out of the box, then put the Mexican up front.
New heart & hand podcast
in Jimmy Bell's Kitroom
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Touching on some of what was discussed on pod.